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[Nirur Torir]

Ideas for mines:
 Iron - Please!
 Iron, x2 - Helps initially, but you can probably increase the output at a vein through research or other investment.
 Coal - Helps with steal, I assume. Useful if anyone wants to try going for steam power.
 Gold - $$$
 Copper - As a good conductor, it could probably help with artificing, maybe with other magic. Acceptable secondary source of metal.
 Crystalized Mana - A power source. As a free pick, they'd probably be low quality.
 A more esoteric magical mineral - Copper lightly infused with fire mana, or jade that evokes feelings of contentment?

Ideas for farm seeds:
 Food
 Cave Flax - Not an amazing food source, and I'm not sure we could survive taking it, especially if the hunters are used on defense, but having a source of linen would be useful for morale later.

I'm curious about what got picked for mages and artificers.

[Draxis]

Yeah, the farmers will do food - I figure we can find or trade for other stuff later, but right now food is key. You list a bunch of specific resources, and other setting stuff like Duergar and the world background in general has all been mentioned without explanation, does this game take place in an established setting?

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A few questions:
1. I'm not clear how research works - does each player get 1d10 of research points, or does the whole council roll one die and vote on how to allocate it?
2. Your post with building costs lists a blacksmith as costing 4 metal, and the IC thread says we have 100 iron in the central stockpile. Are those numbers correct?

[Nirur Torir]

Yeah, the farmers will do food - I figure we can find or trade for other stuff later, but right now food is key. You list a bunch of specific resources, and other setting stuff like Duergar and the world background in general has all been mentioned without explanation, does this game take place in an established setting?

I think it's new. I'm just making stuff up.

There's only a few ores that are particularly useful to us right now, and so this may be a rare chance to design our own magical type - albeit one limited to being balanced to be on-par with (or slightly weaker than) iron or gold. It's an ancient outpost from dwarves who dug too deep; there's bound to be some reason why they built an outpost here, in this spot that's not amazing for defense.

2. Your post with building costs lists a blacksmith as costing 4 metal, and the IC thread says we have 100 iron in the central stockpile. Are those numbers correct?

Our stocks are listed at 400.

[Roboson]

Yeah the setting is new. Duergar are a moderately common fantasy race. They're grey dwarves who live even deeper than dwarves. They're an untrusting bunch, and don't particularly like outsiders, but they're greedy and may trade with others if it's worth their while.

As for the mines and metals, your starting ones are probably iron. Though each turn there's a chance of finding new stuff.

Yeah for research, you declaire what you want to research and at the end of the turn I give you a number which represents how hard it is to research that. Then I roll a 10 sided dice, the result of the dice is how far into the project you make it that turn.

As for lore and setting if anyone has ideas, feel free to send me a PM about it. I love lore crafting and will probably include it.

Sorry for the confusion, it takes 400 metal to set up a blacksmith.

[IronyOwl]

I'm curious about what got picked for mages and artificers.

Augmentation Familiarity (passive): Your mages are familiar with manipulating the structure of living things. Research related to this gets a bonus.
Rampant growth: Your mages are familiar with the needs and growth of crops. You may use your mage action to increase a farm's output by 100%.
Muscular hypertrophy: Your mages have discovered how to increase the strength of a unit for a period of time. You mage use your mage action to cause a unit to exhibit extraordinary for the turn.
Living Structures: Your mages are quite acquainted with how to shape the growth of trees. You may use your mage action to generate two living wood or forgo the wood component of a construction so long as it requires two wood or less.

Yolo swag, yolo swag~

[Roboson]

So I think I've learned a bit from this turn. I suspect that free form "hey what do you all think we should do about X" to be a bit harder to work with (at least until we get our bearings here) than "Here's the situation, we could do A, B, or C, and speak up if you have a better idea." What do you all think about that? Do you like more open ended docket items, or would prefer them to be more clearly defined sort of things that could just be voted and acted on?

[IronyOwl]

I like the idea of open ended items, but it does tend to result in waffling and uncertainty. Unsure what my final vote would be.

[Draxis]

I think we could try another turn with this system, and just ask people be more proactive about putting forward and voting on explicit plans in the IC thread.

[Nirur Torir]

I'd rather try the new system. We can still be open-ended if we figure out a better way.

Muscular hypertrophy: Your mages have discovered how to increase the strength of a unit for a period of time. You mage use your mage action to cause a unit to exhibit extraordinary for the turn.

This + axemen = superior duergar envoy, just need to wait for next turn.

Sorry for the confusion, it takes 400 metal to set up a blacksmith.

New plan: No second forge yet.

The Locksmiths Confederacy "organizes" 5 groups of malita.

Don't.
Do militia cost upkeep? If they cost as much as other units, that's risking bankruptcy.

[a1s]

Do militia cost upkeep?

Do they want to eat? Because being in the militia is one of very few ways to stay of full rations.

[Nirur Torir]

I might have gotten a bit carried away, sorry. Feeling like my voice is completely ignored, and having my troops quietly pushed into doing something else, in favor of a plan I see as worse, with no discussion, bothered me.

On further thought, I do see merits in a militia envoy + militia guards to the west, while my troops guard elsewhere.

I still want 2 militia guards on the west, not just 1, and not assigned as a lookout. I'd also feel safer with a militia guard behind the hunter scouts, but they're probably fine. I don't think we need militia backup for the normal troops, and I expect half rations + 3-4 total militia is going to a big enough morale hit, even if militia don't cost extra upkeep past full rations.

[Draxis]

I might have gotten a bit carried away, sorry. Feeling like my voice is completely ignored, and having my troops quietly pushed into doing something else, in favor of a plan I see as worse, with no discussion, bothered me.

On further thought, I do see merits in a militia envoy + militia guards to the west, while my troops guard elsewhere.

I still want 2 militia guards on the west, not just 1, and not assigned as a lookout. I'd also feel safer with a militia guard behind the hunter scouts, but they're probably fine. I don't think we need militia backup for the normal troops, and I expect half rations + 3-4 total militia is going to a big enough morale hit, even if militia don't cost extra upkeep past full rations.

Sorry about changing where your troops were going, it was a mistake - I thought it would be setting you facing the Duergar, the Guards facing the other explored tunnel, and my hunters hunting down a different path.

[Nirur Torir]

No, you're fine, I meant the militia lookout plan, which assumes that the main troops aren't already deployed at an entryway.

[a1s]

Artificers make better stuff, right?

[Glass]

It’s more that they make magitech. Generally better, yes, but that’s not really the important part here; the distinction here is whether we’re helping the farmers or the military/hunters. The blacksmiths propose to make farming tool, while I’m proposing to make guns.