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[etgfrog]

Another round of Bay12 Dominions games and its time for early ages again. I'm revising the rules for both fairness and take into account the holidays.

Spoiler: Ruleset (click to show/hide)

Nationgen
5 nations randomly generated per player.
Each player can ban 2 nations.
Sign up closes on the 10th of December.
Nation selection will happen in early January. This should give players time to look over and consider each nation.

Game name: Bay12GamesRound504 (probably)
Map:
Initial nation link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qudgl287ldif790/bay12r504.zip?dl=0
Use clustered starts: no
Hosting period: 30 hours
Hall of fame size: 20
Score graphs off
Research on Standard
Random starting research off
Global slots: 9
Common random events
All story events
Human AI level: Difficult
Renaming on
Turn 85 cataclysm
Victory by Thrones of Ascension


Player list:
etgfrog
ThtblovesDF
a1s
Margrave

Obligatory PBEM instructions:

Spoiler: How does PBEM work? (click to show/hide)

• First of all, you need to download any non-standard map and mod we're using (links will be provided if we decide to use one), and put the files into the map and mod folders of your dom5 installation respectively (you can open the game folders from the in-game options menu).
• Then go to the options menu and enable the mod. (if applicable)
• Next use the pretender creation tool in the game tools menu to create a pretender and send the file(to be found in your /dominions5/savedgames/newlords; named <your_nation_era_number.2h>, where number is most likely "0" if it's the only pretender you've created so far for this nation.) to "pretenders [at ] llamaserver [dot ] net" with the game name as the subject.
  Game name will most likely be "Bay12GamesRound5XX [where XX is the Bay12 round count]".

You'll be receiving .trn files from llama server, which you should put into a {dom5dir}/savedgames/{whatevernameyouwant}/
After finishing your moves, a new .2h file will appear in that folder, which you should send to the same address from which you've received your .trn file.

You can always view the game status (including such information as turn submission deadline, and stalling data) at
http://www.llamaserver.net/index.cgi
by searching for the game name on the list.

Spoiler: Previous Bay12 rounds (click to show/hide)

Dom3:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7&7.5, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15
Dom4:
4.01, 4.02, 4.03, 4.04, 4.05, 4.06, 4.07, 4.08, 4.09, 4.10, 4.11B, 4.12, 4.13, 4.14, 4.15, 4.16, 4.15, 4.17, 4.18, 4.19, 4.20, 4.21, 4.22, 4.23, 4.24, 4.25, 4.26, 4.27, 4.28
Dom5:
5.01, 5.02, 5.03

Interest was lost, I probably made a mistake by delaying it for a while.

[E. Albright]

I might be willing to do shenanigan NG. Admittedly, my idea of "fun" NG shenanigans tends to have as much or more to do with how nations are assigned than generation constraints. If the majority wasn't interested, though, that'd be NBD.

[etgfrog]

I genned 40 nations with those paramaters, foul spawn cannot have recruit anywhere sacreds, it is always a secondary race that is the recruit anywhere sacred. Although there is a nation with chorus spells and another nation with flying ichtyid sacreds. So I don't know if I should revise the rules...

[E. Albright]

There's no reason they shouldn't be able to have recruit-anywhere sacreds. It's more likely that the restriction filters don't play nicely with montag poses. If you're really keen on doing the above setup, I can almost certainly work out a one-or-two-line data file alteration that will let you get rec-anywhere sacreds on FS without using any nation restrictions.

[etgfrog]

I'll wait to see if others are interested in doing that style of game. Other idea I had is all players picks a nation to be added to a pool then random diceroll picks the nation for each player from that pool.

[ThtblovesDF]

I'll try, but if players fill up to much I'll move aside. Busy life and all that : /

[etgfrog]

Understandable, with the poor ruleset that I had initially and the lack of interest, I should probably change it.

[ThtblovesDF]

These Forums move slow

[E. Albright]

...I'm moving at a snail's pace, but I might get merrow and further-expanded imperial nations done by the 10th. There's a bunch of dumb little bugfixes I'd like to see rolled out too.

(If I'm really ambitious, I might take a stab at UW national PD for nations that can build UW.)

[a1s]

I am in.

[Margrave]

Aw what the hell, sign me up.

Rolling for 5 foulspawn nations.

[etgfrog]

No new nation gen version was released so I used 7.0 candidate 8 to generate the nations. Seed -9201551037962677552. Setting code 1. Nation restriction: Primary race: Foulspawn.

[E. Albright]

PREVIOUS LIST OF SEEDS WAS FOR THE WRONG SETTING. REVISED LIST BELOW.

If you want to be a bit kinder, the nation seeds:

Spoiler: Nation seeds (click to show/hide)

Actual seeds for settings = 1:
8683757159260245504
374477931325036938
1619772632687473640
6551271805106460218
-8195078879178230003
6128600140017536560
-2959576694400638555
-605722345417594412
6749932504643143471
-5194334610027547216
-7545248312723433962
9126221552961147250
266132859189491177
-7395221808889820747
3529933332258678206
-4406032015751089544
4375654890023222269
-2442104466419884208
-4491087839752197437

Bad seeds for settings = 0:
1763716401765200906
642063143468893788
-2961032822946937036
-9048293237141822835
3534649669207422939
-4678194445588796335
-3025797878054658013
7041909779233431296
4201279973478462657
1869315495659340746
4315425072174763699
3998149273829780179
-4014521945606051707
-5670143108177160089
3164699594402203951
-4486332930912566523
-980938008454601645
-2921794787603498151
7478367835829796630
2413365187906273244

(This spares the players the misery of generating 1300+ nations to get the final 20. I assume 20, because I only see 4 players listed, which means I was too ambiguous when I threw my name into the hat, but that's okay.)

[etgfrog]

Ok, that is my mistake for getting confused with your first statement, because I wasn't sure what NBD is. I wrote down the gen seed so I could expand the list if someone decided to join at the last second and so other players can confirm the nations that I post is the same that gets generated.

[E. Albright]

NBD = no big deal. For example: "It's NBD that you didn't include me among the players because TBH I really shouldn't start up a game in the next two months anyway". 

And yes, I understand transparency, but it's also gonna take a decent chunk of time to generate that mess, so the option to take it on faith would probably be welcome.

FWIW, it doesn't look like any of the nations in the first 20 on that mod seed would be affected by any of the bugfixes I haven't gotten around to pushing out yet, so that's also NBD...