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[El Rey De Los Monos]

Sell out to EA and let them run it.

[BigUglyWorm]

An update that adds physical gods who can choose to reside in your fortress and provide massive mood boosts to their worshipers.  The kicker?  They're basically bigger, more fickle nobles, who happen to be near-invincible and surrounded by fanatically loyal followers.

"Windyclutched, goddess of trees and nature, hath issued a commandment: thou shalt not war with the elves"

"Towerhits, god of tradition and magma, hath issued a commandment: thou shalt not trade with non-dwarves"

"Deepenedheart, god of peace and doves, hath issued a commandment: thou shalt not have a militia"

[betaking]

not sure if this goes here;

migrant waves come with a wagon and/or pack animals (depending on the social status of the migrants, the unmarried peasant might come with nothing more than the clothes on his back)

[BigUglyWorm]

not sure if this goes here;

migrant waves come with a wagon and/or pack animals (depending on the social status of the migrants, the unmarried peasant might come with nothing more than the clothes on his back)

Only if you think that's a bad/unrealistic idea.

A better fit for the thread might be something like "migrants can arrive with pack animals and animal-drawn wagons, but the animals can be literally anything, from oxen and deer to fluffy wamblers to dragons. Normal restraints on tameness apply."

[LordBaal]

Or animal men come in the migrant wave with dwarf pulled wagons.

[KittyTac]

not sure if this goes here;

migrant waves come with a wagon and/or pack animals (depending on the social status of the migrants, the unmarried peasant might come with nothing more than the clothes on his back)

This is not that bad, as BigUglyWorm pointed out.

[BigUglyWorm]

Or animal men come in the migrant wave with dwarf pulled wagons.

I like the way you think!

[betaking]

Only if you think that's a bad/unrealistic idea.

A better fit for the thread might be something like "migrants can arrive with pack animals and animal-drawn wagons, but the animals can be literally anything, from oxen and deer to fluffy wamblers to dragons. Normal restraints on tameness apply."

This is not that bad, as BigUglyWorm pointed out.

but think of the parking space and other issues that it would create!! imagine wagons flooding your fort! blocking off traffic, sinking in rivers, etc!
it would be chaos!

[BigUglyWorm]

I can already see the forum posts arguing the merits of various traffic-flow patterns.  On the other hand, all those wagons would be a nice source of wood for tree-less embarks.

You've given me another idea: every time you start a new fortress, you have to guide the wagon, along with its load of dwarves and supplies, from the mountainhomes to your embark site, in the format of an Oregon-Trail-like text-adventure.  Anything and anyone you lose on the way is gone at embark (good luck if you drop your only anvil - or worse, your only miner - while crossing a river), and you have to manage supplies while navigating your world's terrain for however long it takes to reach your destination.

[LordBaal]

You've given me another idea: every time you start a new fortress, you have to guide the wagon, along with its load of dwarves and supplies, from the mountainhomes to your embark site, in the format of an Oregon-Trail-like text-adventure.  Anything and anyone you lose on the way is gone at embark (good luck if you drop your only anvil - or worse, your only miner - while crossing a river), any you have to manage supplies while navigating your world's terrain for however long it takes to reach your destination.

That actually sounds kind of awesome.

[PlumpHelmetMan]

It would be fun for the first couple worlds, sure, but then eventually you'll generate a world where the only sustainable location for a fortress is on the other side of the continent from your starting civ and will take in-game weeks to reach.

[bloop_bleep]

take in-game weeks to reach.

Why not IRL weeks?

[flimflamm]

You've given me another idea: every time you start a new fortress, you have to guide the wagon, along with its load of dwarves and supplies, from the mountainhomes to your embark site, in the format of an Oregon-Trail-like text-adventure.  Anything and anyone you lose on the way is gone at embark (good luck if you drop your only anvil - or worse, your only miner - while crossing a river), any you have to manage supplies while navigating your world's terrain for however long it takes to reach your destination.

Very funny...

But if wagons were actually available in adventure mode, there shouldn't be any reason why opting for an adventure mode style embark would be difficult to implement or use (there is a [T]ravel screen afterall).

Don't you think wagons could actually be useful in adventure mode?

[BigUglyWorm]

It would be fun for the first couple worlds, sure, but then eventually you'll generate a world where the only sustainable location for a fortress is on the other side of the continent from your starting civ and will take in-game weeks to reach.

My thoughts exactly.  And long stretches of evil or savage biome between the mountainhomes and an embark site go from "fun curiosity" to "insurmountable impediment".

[BigUglyWorm]

Don't you think wagons could actually be useful in adventure mode?

I mean, for larger parties or adventurers hauling huge objects across long distances, maybe, if you could get some critters to pull--
Wait.  According to the wiki, wagons are actually creatures with no organs.  Which means...
INVINCIBLE, MOBILE COMBAT DUMMIES!  Finally, I can train a world class wrestler while traveling the world in ~*~style~*~