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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #135 on: December 16, 2018, 05:17:35 pm »

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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #136 on: December 16, 2018, 05:54:58 pm »

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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #137 on: December 16, 2018, 07:44:24 pm »

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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #138 on: December 19, 2018, 09:26:20 am »

Design Phase, Late Winter 1915

The General in charge of the defense of Nachtburg is pleased with the damage done to the aircraft bombing but requests more aircraft to help the ground forces in the defense and possibly support a counter attack, possibly the radio Adderbolts. The General in charge of the defense of Hochrotes Schloss also requests something to help go from a defensive to an offensive.

The General in charge of the Defense of Sprungburg is very thankful for the radio using Adderbolt, and would still love to have more of them. Despite this, on the other side of the island the general defending Dunklerfelsen is angry at the opportunity to push back before heavy snowfall and demands that aircraft are provided to make sure the ground forces prevent the Prens from taking Dunklerfelsen.

An odd request was made by the relative of a pilot who died recently, said request being the ability to purchase a Adderbolt and spare parts for it, specifically an armed and loaded one with a bit of extra ammunition. They already sent the funds, enough for a single PP, but a bit more than enough to create an Adderbolt...If we should simply send the money back and request the proper authorities to investigate or give them the aircraft they have requested has been put for you to decide...

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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #139 on: December 19, 2018, 10:52:32 am »

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An odd request was made by the relative of a pilot who died recently, said request being the ability to purchase a Adderbolt and spare parts for it, specifically an armed and loaded one with a bit of extra ammunition. They already sent the funds, enough for a single PP, but a bit more than enough to create an Adderbolt...If we should simply send the money back and request the proper authorities to investigate or give them the aircraft they have requested has been put for you to decide...

Give them the aircraft, obviously. If they're a relative, they may join the Airforce, and could be a useful addition to it. What's more, we should explicitly ask them to join, if nothing else, and give them a plane. Who knows, maybe they shoot down Garth.

On this turn - I think we should invest 2 dice and rush 2 dice on the Teufel, netting us between 4 and 24 progress on the thing with between one or two bugs which we can fix next turn, and spend the other 3 and start a fighter-bomber project planned to use the in-development Teufel. I thus present the following design for this turn:

Rohesde ZBg.I A1/15 Drachen

While development of the 630 hp Teufel engine was ongoing, the AvD company set out to develop an aircraft to utilize the engine once in operation, and one that would make use of it's power to perform both the role of a bomber and a fighter at the same time with impunity, offering relatively unheard of performance to the Kaiserliche Luftjäger's doorstep - a true Zerstörer-Bodenangreifer - filling the empty role of ground assault within the empire. What's more, Andreas wanted to further progress the state of aeronautical engineering in the Empire, and thus set out to include several innovative features in the craft.

The Drachen was thus born - an immensely durable tandem-wing with a thick central wing surface section between two booms housing it's Teufel engines, front and back extensions to its sides, and a joint tail section behind the fuselage extending between the booms behind. This craft measures 10.06 meters by 14.5 meters and was designed to include integrated FEiV-12M radio, retractable landing gear and bomb bay, with both the bay and landing gear crank-operated and worked off the prototype designed for the early SBD.Is. The bay itself, measuring 2.67 by 1.10 meters, is to be fitted with standardized bomb mounts in the form of vertical or horizontal hardpoints with bombs released by the use of a lever, and would normally carry 1 ton of ordinance, should a suitable bombload be assigned to the craft, but could theoretically carry up to two given the bay's volume - leaving room for improvement once better engines are inevitably developed. The craft would be no slouch in terms of armament either, as it was planned to include first two, and then four 7.62mm GL-12 machine guns in the nose, each holding a thousand rounds, and two GL-12s in gunnery positions (one behind the pilot, serving as a radio operator or bomb navigator, and one near the tail, covering the space below and above the plane more easily) for defense. The plane is gauged to be capable of attaining great speeds thanks to it's two powerful engines, jointly putting out 1260 hp into the craft's two 3 meter diameter two-bladed propellers, and should theoretically be capable of attaining a speed between 380 and 400 km/h with a full bombload onboad, and potentially even up to 450 km/h without. What's more, the size of the propellers, while making for longer frontal landing gear, allow the craft to possess better acceleration, making it decent at interception. Thanks to the redundancy built into the craft's lifting surfaces, it is both immensely maneuverable for it's relatively modest size, a great climber and capable of sustaining massive damage and still making a safe landing or returning to base.

And thus, with the hope of changing the face of war as it was known, Andreas set off to work - now all that was left was convincing the airforce to allocate funding for the craft's development, as the costs of running all the tests necessary would take far too long if the company were left on it's lonesome to pay for the endeavor.



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« Last Edit: December 21, 2018, 11:20:42 am by Thanik »
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #140 on: December 20, 2018, 03:56:49 pm »

I like it, let's do it.
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #141 on: December 20, 2018, 05:13:32 pm »

In the absence of other posts as of right now, I'll prep a votebox so we can casually add other designs in if they show up, and so we have a brief summary of decisions that need to be made in the design phase.

Quote from: Votebox
Pilot Relative Event
Allow them to purchase an Adderbolt (Gain 1 PP) (1): Thanik
Return the money and request an investigation (0):

Research and Development:
Invest nothing (0):
Invest 1 die + 1 rush into the Teufel, leave 1 die for revisions (0):
Invest 2 die + 1 rush into Teufel, leave nothing for revisions this turn (0):
Invest 2 die + 2 rush into Teufel, leave nothing for revisions this turn (1): Thanik
(add more options if you don't want to do a design this turn)

Designs:
Don't design anything this turn (0):
Rohesde ZBg.I A1/15 Drachen (1): Thanik
« Last Edit: December 20, 2018, 05:17:55 pm by Thanik »
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #142 on: December 20, 2018, 06:45:17 pm »

Quote from: Votebox
Pilot Relative Event
Allow them to purchase an Adderbolt (Gain 1 PP) (2): Thanik, TTE
Return the money and request an investigation (0):

Research and Development:
Invest nothing (0):
Invest 1 die + 1 rush into the Teufel, leave 1 die for revisions (0):
Invest 2 die + 1 rush into Teufel, leave nothing for revisions this turn (0):
Invest 2 die + 2 rush into Teufel, leave nothing for revisions this turn (2): Thanik, TTE
(add more options if you don't want to do a design this turn)

Designs:
Don't design anything this turn (0):
Rohesde ZBg.I A1/15 Drachen (2): Thanik, TTE
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #143 on: December 21, 2018, 10:39:57 am »

Right, here's an alternative proposal to the Drachen. (Some credit to Nikola for helping me out with this)

KWa.I Kriegsfalk
As the war proceeds, it becomes increasingly obvious that aerial support will become more and more vital; not just in reconasaince and artillery spotting, but by placing ordinance onto targets themselves. While the Adderbolt is technically capable of lifting explosives to drop on our enemies, it cannot carry many, and as such creating an aircraft specialized in dropping bombs is vital. While another team is working on a large and great aircraft, our team at Königreichs Walfänger is instead working on a precision dive bomber.

Enter the KWa.I Kriegsfalk, unlike the Drachen this aircraft will sport a single Teufel engine in a puller configuration, and leave behind the tandem wing design, instead sporting a large forwards mounted mono-wing with a dihedral tilt. The Kriegsfalk is armed with a pair of GL-12's, one mounted in each wing placed as close to the fuselage as possible but without risking shooting the propeller off. Its bombload consists of a series of standardized mounts capable of holding up to 700 kg of ordinance; ready to be released at the pull of a lever; and guided in by the pilot's improved M-01 bomb sight.

Crew wise, there are only two, the pilot and rear gunner. The pilots job in dive bombing is aided by a series of control surfaces whose only purpose is to, when extended, produce drag to slow down the aircraft; an 'air brake', if you will; in addition to large horizontal control surfaces in order to quickly and easily pull out of its steep dive. The rear gunner is expected to serve in operating the Kriegsfalk's built-in FEiV-12M radio when not defending the plane with their own rearwards mounted GL-12 machine gun. Both of their seats are adjustable in order to accomodate them having or not having a Fallschrim. While we'd prefer to issue all pilots one, budget concerns may prevent us in doing so; and we'd rather not have them be uncomfortable sitting in a seat designed for someone wearing a bulky backpack, you see. Oh yes, the Kriegsfalk will incorporate the (hopefully no longer prototype) landing gear initially developed on the Adderbolt as well, at least as much as it can be.

Overall, the Kriegsfalk is expected to travel at 300 km/h under full bombload, and while this is not as fast as the Drachen, the Kriegsfalk will shine through in being a cheaper, more accurate bomber.

Quote from: Votebox
Pilot Relative Event
Allow them to purchase an Adderbolt (Gain 1 PP) (2): Thanik, TTE
Return the money and request an investigation (0):

Research and Development:
Invest nothing (0):
Invest 1 die + 1 rush into the Teufel, leave 1 die for revisions (0):
Invest 2 die + 1 rush into Teufel, leave nothing for revisions this turn (0):
Invest 2 die + 2 rush into Teufel, leave nothing for revisions this turn (2): Thanik, TTE
(add more options if you don't want to do a design this turn)

Designs:
Don't design anything this turn (0):
Rohesde ZBg.I A1/15 Drachen (2): Thanik, TTE
KWa.I Kriegsfalk (1): Jilladilla
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #144 on: December 23, 2018, 04:50:38 pm »

Design Phase, Late Winter 1915

Rohesde ZBg.I A1/15 Drachen
While development of the 630 hp Teufel engine was ongoing, the AvD company set out to develop an aircraft to utilize the engine once in operation, and one that would make use of it's power to perform both the role of a bomber and a fighter at the same time with impunity, offering relatively unheard of performance to the Kaiserliche Luftjäger's doorstep - a true Zerstörer-Bodenangreifer - filling the empty role of ground assault within the empire. What's more, Andreas wanted to further progress the state of aeronautical engineering in the Empire, and thus set out to include several innovative features in the craft.

The Drachen was thus born - an immensely durable tandem-wing with a thick central wing surface section between two booms housing it's Teufel engines, front and back extensions to its sides, and a joint tail section behind the fuselage extending between the booms behind. This craft measures 10.06 meters by 14.5 meters and was designed to include integrated FEiV-12M radio, retractable landing gear and bomb bay, with both the bay and landing gear crank-operated and worked off the prototype designed for the early SBD.Is. The bay itself, measuring 2.67 by 1.10 meters, is to be fitted with standardized bomb mounts in the form of vertical or horizontal hardpoints with bombs released by the use of a lever, and would normally carry 1 ton of ordinance, should a suitable bombload be assigned to the craft, but could theoretically carry up to two given the bay's volume - leaving room for improvement once better engines are inevitably developed. The craft would be no slouch in terms of armament either, as it was planned to include first two, and then four 7.62mm GL-12 machine guns in the nose, each holding a thousand rounds, and two GL-12s in gunnery positions (one behind the pilot, serving as a radio operator or bomb navigator, and one near the tail, covering the space below and above the plane more easily) for defense. The plane is gauged to be capable of attaining great speeds thanks to it's two powerful engines, jointly putting out 1260 hp into the craft's two 3 meter diameter two-bladed propellers, and should theoretically be capable of attaining a speed between 380 and 400 km/h with a full bombload onboad, and potentially even up to 450 km/h without. What's more, the size of the propellers, while making for longer frontal landing gear, allow the craft to possess better acceleration, making it decent at interception. Thanks to the redundancy built into the craft's lifting surfaces, it is both immensely maneuverable for it's relatively modest size, a great climber and capable of sustaining massive damage and still making a safe landing or returning to base.

And thus, with the hope of changing the face of war as it was known, Andreas set off to work - now all that was left was convincing the airforce to allocate funding for the craft's development, as the costs of running all the tests necessary would take far too long if the company were left on it's lonesome to pay for the endeavor.

Time: 1 | Progress: 5 | Expense: 2

Well, we never expected this to be easy, and with the limited number of engines we actually have to test with the thing, read, only two, we need to make our work count and get the design down first. However, that's not to say the engineers lack ambition, quite the opposite really, and they do a good job working on setting the craft up for a good first flight when that day comes. We haven't left the planning and design phase yet, but we are certain this project will cost an arm and a leg, but that's why the company requested our help on the mater in the first place. It will take a long time, obviously, but when its done it will be ahead of its time. Mark our words. It should be noted progress will obviously get a bit of a boost once the engine it uses is finished, and we won't have to struggle so much with funding either.

Rohesde ZBg.I A1/15 "Drachen" | 5/55 progress | 4 PP per die | Rushed 0 times | 4 PP invested


Effectiveness: 6 | Cost: 1 | Bugs: 5

Well, where to start? First off, the Drachen is in fact the Wunderwaffe we need to win the war and by that I mean its a wonder in most every regard. It should have an average cruse speed of 390 km/h and a WEP speed of 450 without a bomb load, but despite these large numbers for speed, that doesn't mean that its by any means light or easy to shoot down. Due to its construction, a model without engines shows it would take quite a long time of continuous fire from a machine gun to do enough damage to saw a wing off and the pilot is well protected along with the engines. Really, the craft is like a flying armored car, just much much faster. It can also carry quite a bit as well, heavy loads of cargo should be able to be carried by the thing and just as heavy loads of at most 2 tons of bombs should too. It should be noted that quite obviously such a weight reduces top speed, but when loaded to the max it can still go 375 km/h reliably at cruse speed.

That's not all either, the aircraft is advanced enough to have landing gear that is rolled back into the air frame while in the air to reduce drag and increase speed. The gear are cranked up to an upward and lower position, which takes a bit of time and effort, but seeing how it only needs to be done after takeoff and before landing it isn't too much of an issue. Additionally, it should be fairly maneuverable for its size, surprisingly so. Its not going to out turn an adderbolt but considering the general idea of what its to be used for it doesn't need to be. Additionally, the two gunner positions can easily be armed with plenty of ammo, well over 1000 rounds should the pilots or commanders wish, so it should be able to stay in the air for a long time both due to fuel lasting so long and having so much ammo. Of course, as a wunderwaffe so great, it does come with a drawback we have found...

Remember the incident with the adderbolt? Well, this time, the engineers didn't add ebony or make anything particularly fancy, no. The thing uses a bit of metal in its design, steel, specifically in important parts like the landing gear or propellers. It also uses other metal parts to make it so that even under sustained fire it wont be able to easily damage the controls. Additionally, the fact the landing gear and bomb bay exist add complexity to the design and this combined with its size result in...problematic issues with cost. The big issue with all of this is however, most of the things that result in it costing so much are done to increase survivability or, in the case of the landing gear and bomb bay, would require an entire redesign to fix. But...we have plenty of time to work on that...hopefully...



Roheshmiede-Dehnert "Teufel" (2 die spent, 2 die rushed)

Progress: 4+4+1+3+3 = 15/30. 6 PP spent

The engineers take extra shifts and so too are the engineering students under our employ, though the latter are observed carefully for fairly obvious reasons. Still, good progress overall is made on the engine, and we are able to have a few prototypes available for use in the other project we currently have running, and they will help a bit with the work there in the progress of the aircraft. (IE You got a +5 for progress on the other project)



Accepting the payment and sending the adderbolt, the team would find two weeks later a woman actually came to the air field. Their name is Brunhilde von Bothmer, and their brother Wolfram was a Vizefeldwebel with one confirmed aerial victory to his name before he died. Apparently she came because she was given an offer to join the airforce in a letter by an engineer named Ernest von Arnegis...Naturally, the issue is fairly obvious here, and if she's accepted, we might set a precedent that might not fall too well with some people...



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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #145 on: December 23, 2018, 05:49:28 pm »

This design phase went well. The Drachen is within acceptable bounds in terms of cost, but it's a shame it's got such a long development time (this is kind of becoming a shtick for us... ugh). I'll also be posting an event votebox for the female aviator event.

Quote from: Event Votebox
Do we let Brunhilde crash with the Luftjäger?

Yes (1): Thanik
No (0):

Quote from: Plan: 'Doing God's Work'
Fiscal Budget
Scrap:
2x IluM 12M - 1 PP
Purchases:
1x Dehnert Adderbolt SBD.I
1x FEiV-12M
Upgrades:
Kriegsmäid -> Dehnert Adderbolt SBD.I w/ Fallschirm
Rudel -> FEiV-12M
Miscellaneous:
None

Expenses:
Starting Budget:  +20 PP
Bonuses:             +1 PP
R&D:                   - 8 PP
Scrap:                  +1 PP
Purchases:            -4 PP
Upgrades:             -3 PP
Maintenance:        -6 PP
Left Over:              0 [optimally] PP

Rationalization: We're going to be heavily invested in R&D for the next couple of turns, so we need to make sure all our squadrons are fully upgraded with what we have right now. We should work on improving said equipment and introducing bombs into the fray, since the Adderbolt can carry them, and buying more Adderbolts to create a comprehensive fleet. The Drachen is coming in 2 turns at the minimum, and probably 4 turns given the pace we'd have to keep up to make it - and the Teufel needs at least another intense turn to finish with a 44% chance on getting it the next time we do a 2d6+2R, and 69.6% / 99.3% if we do 3d6+2R/3R.

That leaves us with relatively small design windows for revisions. (3d6+2R next turn basically guarantees the Teufel, and leaves us with 2d6 for revisions to spend on a bomb and strengthening the Adderbolt for the Teufel (or otherwise just implementing lessons from the Drachen to make it a more deadly package). This turn, thus, I think the most optimal thing for us to do is work on adding more ground support and using our pilots to inflict pain on the enemy as much as possible. Getting more experience helps us keep the high ground if they start catching up to the Adderbolt.

Strategy & Execution

General Orders
If you don't have a specific mission, hunt the Prens dry. All Adderbolts without a radio commit to aerial superiority missions. Squad Angesehen will make up for the lack of squads in the East, hopefully.
Front-specific Orders
Central Front:
One FEiV-equipped Adderbolt supports Nachtburg in staging a counter offensive.
Western Front:
Squadron Rudel w/ FEiV-equipped Adderbolts are to support the general in Dunklerfelsen so that he may regain lost lands despite the winter, or at least to support the defense and make a counter attack more likely.

Eastern Front
None
Central Front
Rote
Schurk
Kriegsmäid
Gold
Western Front
Rudel
Angesehen
Löwe
« Last Edit: December 23, 2018, 07:01:53 pm by Thanik »
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #146 on: December 23, 2018, 06:45:05 pm »

Quote from: Letter of Intent
Dear Army, you look good giving us suicide bombs. You'd look even better if you didn't.
XXX love, Airforce.

Quote from: Plan 'Canvas Angels'
As 'Doing God's Work', but trade the Adderbolt purchase for 3 Fallschrim set purchases. Give them to the last three schwadrons without parachutes.

Quote from: votes
Send Letter: (1) The Ensorceler
*Do Not* Send Letter:

Train Brunhilde as pilot: (2) Thanik, The Ensorceler
Do not train Brunhilde as pilot:

Follow plan 'Doing God's Work': (1) Thanik
Follow plan 'Canvas Angels': (1) The Ensorceler
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #147 on: December 23, 2018, 06:51:25 pm »

Quote from: Nick's Letter of Intent
Representatives of the Schwarzes Holz Army,

We would like to request that you consider providing us with functional explosive devices, preferably within the next season, so that we may aid you further in ground support roles. Our R&D department is busy bringing you the next generation of air support, but the bombs you've sent us have hindered the production of bombs for the airforce and allowed the enemy to provide a demonstration of their effectiveness against our own troops.

This letter serves to inform you of our desire to requisition bombs in the coming season.

Sincerely,
The Engineers of the Kaiserliche Luftjäger.

Quote from: votes
Send Letter (2): The Ensorceler, Thanik
-- TE's Letter of Intent (1): The Ensorceler
-- Nick's Letter of Intent (1): Thanik
*Do Not* Send Letter (0):

Train Brunhilde as pilot: (2) Thanik, The Ensorceler
Do not train Brunhilde as pilot:

Follow plan 'Doing God's Work': (1) Thanik
Follow plan 'Canvas Angels': (1) The Ensorceler
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #148 on: December 23, 2018, 06:59:09 pm »

Quote from: votes
Send Letter (2): The Ensorceler, Thanik
-- TE's Letter of Intent (1): The Ensorceler
-- Nick's Letter of Intent (2): Thanik, Jilladilla
*Do Not* Send Letter (0):

Train Brunhilde as pilot: (3) Thanik, The Ensorceler, Jilladilla
Do not train Brunhilde as pilot:

Follow plan 'Doing God's Work': (2) Thanik, Jilladilla
Follow plan 'Canvas Angels': (1) The Ensorceler
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #149 on: December 24, 2018, 01:24:42 am »

Quote from: votes
Send Letter (4): The Ensorceler, Thanik Jilladilla, Stabby
-- TE's Letter of Intent (1): The Ensorceler
-- Nick's Letter of Intent (3): Thanik,
Jilladilla, Stabby
*Do Not* Send Letter (0):

Train Brunhilde as pilot: (4) Thanik, The Ensorceler, Jilladilla, Stabby
Do not train Brunhilde as pilot:

Follow plan 'Doing God's Work': (3) Thanik, Jilladilla, Stabby
Follow plan 'Canvas Angels': (1) The Ensorceler
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