Is my case on Hector really nothing?
.. An annotated review:
Hector's old read list for reference.
Well the game started on a weekend (probably part of the reason why some folks aren’t posting as much) and Monday’s are generally busy days for me so...
I guess you can have a preliminary reads list in no particular order and maybe something better later.
Nirur - feeling scummy, but that’s mostly because of the poor case on me. This post seems to imply that my level of experience has cleared me in some capacity? Doesn’t want to interact with me anymore, probably worried I noticed how little he did on his own, maybe worried about making a slip with “buddies”.
FoU - scum-lean, but I am aware I always think that about him. Should be doing more, weekend start gives a little leeway in that respect.
Kit and failbird - anxious newer players. Kit has kept something from pre-game going, failbird is worried about coming across as a fool. We all did in our first few games, man.
roseheart - should be in the previous grouping, but posting “hi” after webadict’s “woe for the subforum” thing was infuriating.
Tomasque - town-lean - handful of posts I haven’t read into much, was busy, looks like he’s trying to get more solid reads on people. Pushes Nirur for talking nonsense about Tomasque’s playing experience, has a case on Kit which I can accept as reasonable at this point of the game.
dolores - probably town, with caveats. Making people think about what they’re doing, could probably do it without calling everyone some variety of female genitalia, but eh. Has also dropped a few “slips” and such for people to pick up on, hence the caveat. IcyTea picked up on some. Encouraging activity is a pretty easy thing to be doing, though.
webadict - has spent a great portion of the game lamenting the slow death of the subforum, so... webadict. I guess he’s paying attention?
IcyTea - town lean. Engaging with things, asking people things. Bemused why he thinks my refuge is not as good as webadict’s refuge. Reads list doesn’t quite gel with mine, can’t complain about that I guess.
Two lynch targets for me would be Nirur and roseheart. Nirur ‘cause of the scumminess, roseheart ‘cause of “hi”.
PPE: four post preceding this haven’t been read yet, and I should’ve started laundry 2 hours ago.
[Okay on a re-read he did ask enough other questions that accusations of tunneling me didn't fit.]
I asked about other reads, since he wasn't hunting and had so few suspected scum.
Hector: You have me listed as one of two scum picks, the other being one you admit you always see as scum. You don't seem to have a third, but are tunneling me. If you lynch me D1 and I show as town, who are your next three candidates?
If I show as scum, who do you go after as my buddies?
The answer I got was just throwing the question back at me, since my suspects were half lurkers.
You ask me if I have 4 candidates for scum, do you even have three that aren’t “lurking, needs to do more”?
My response is a defense and I repeated my question.
have two that aren't lurking, and two that are. Given that 4/10 players are lurking, I find that fair.
At the time, this struck me as a strange reply. It's still a little odd to say that twice instead of just saying he was waiting on answers to questions he'd already asked.
@Nirur - I have reads on people who are posting. How am I supposed to question someone when they’re not around to be questioned?
You, my top scumspect, are voting my other scumspect. Why should I vote with someone I think is scum? The other players I am unhappy with are being prompted to post by others, namely Kit and roseheart.
Then I asked this, especially the bottom question to try to get him to lay out an actual attack.
@Nirur - I have reads on people who are posting. How am I supposed to question someone when they’re not around to be questioned?
I don't know, I guess it's impossible for you to ask questions unless they're online right when you are, since you don't seem to be asking other people questions.
You, my top scumspect, are voting my other scumspect. Why should I vote with someone I think is scum? The other players I am unhappy with are being prompted to post by others, namely Kit and roseheart.
I never said anything about voting with me, just about figuring out who else is scum. Unless you're confident there's just 2 scum to 8 townies, and you'll win the game after killing Urist and myself?
Your best bet to make me think your’re not scum is not to attack my case, it’s to convince me you’re town by finding scum.
Oh! Sorry, I didn't realize you had a case on me, only insults on my ability to find scum.
Please, feel free to present it.
If I'm one of only two scum, scumpowers must be OP. Gotta make sure not to waste any lynches.
This is what set me off. I ask what he has on me, since he's voting me with a weak reason, and he just .. says he's done with me, and that telling me about his attack would clutter the thread. Then deflects to Roseheart's scumminess.
I’m done with you Nirur, the back and forth is adding nothing to other player’s reads and cluttering the thread. I summarized my case in my reads list. I think you’re scum, you think I’m an idiot, I’m okay with that state of affairs.
I am less okay with you completely missing a slip from roseheart.
@roseheart: when you have one player who has just declared they’re unhappy with the standard of play slipping in a pretty big post, posting “hi” afterwards will be viewed with a particularly high degree of disdain from everyone, new or otherwise.
This is not the slip to which I’m referring.
I can’t be bothered quoting it right now, I’m tired and have to eat my dinner. We’ll see if someone else gets it.
And then he finally gives an RL reason.
.. I'm just tired now. It seemed so certain last night, perhaps ignored questions are just a button for me. Ugh.
I'll let him finish his list before attacking his new reads post. I'm not done just because Roseheart needs my vote.
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