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[vettlingr]

I'll check your files and get back to you about the color.

Walls: yes and no. There is no tiletype for engraved, so they would use the same sprite as a regular wall, but with the correct transparency you can hide the engravings in a smoothed wall. Its... Let's say, tricky to do. People haven't really been using this trick since twbt came out. Only works if you make all inorganic background colors the same, btw.

Another option would be to make a "engraved block" (modded) and construct the walls with that. Downside is that you only get the graphics, not actual engravings.

Last option, and I can't believe I never thought of that, is in the init.

...

You devil.

I think I know a way. Give me some time.

If you turn on "Show Engravings" I guess there is a possibility?
I would be very happy to know what you find out lol.

I tested a few overrides, turns out cavern wood walls do not show up as a ::WOOD override. Do they need separate overrides or?
EDIT: was a fault on my end

[Meph]

HA!

Spoiler: Engraved, simplified (click to show/hide)

All good, using one sprite with squiggles...

Spoiler: Engravings toggled on (click to show/hide)

The horror! Everything is jumbled together, using all kinds of tile numbers for the walls and floor.

Spoiler: But we still know the tile number and the tiletype... so... (click to show/hide)

Brute force wall overrides!

This is the tileset.png I used for this example.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The good news: Yes, you can absolutely give engravings a unique look. 256 to be exactly.
The bad news: Since dwarves will engrave about anything, making use of pretty much all of the 256 tile numbers, the amount of overrides will be considerable. You can only either turn on ALL of those, or NONE.

This means you need 256 overrides (not necessarily 256 sprites, but lines in the overrides txt) for all possible wall sections. 13, in total (12 walls, 1 floor). 3328. And that's only for one material. If you have differences between smoothed rock and smoothed minerals and smoothed gems... then you might get a bit more than that. For these three materials, it's already 10.000 extra lines of code.

EDIT: Walls are fine; floors lead to some trouble, because TWBT doesn't like items with overrides on top of tiles with overrides... I think there is currently no way to properly show floor engravings without the occasional glitch. Problem with that of course is that you can only toggle engravings on/off, but not wall/floor on/off. You get none or both.

Unless you want to ask people to manually D-V (show engravings) ingame, on selected areas of the wall.

[Meph]

Colors:

[OVERRIDE:205:B:AXLE_HORIZONTAL:::3:65:16:]
[OVERRIDE:179:B:AXLE_HORIZONTAL:::3:66:16:]
[OVERRIDE:186:B:AXLE_HORIZONTAL:::3:80:16:]
[OVERRIDE:196:B:AXLE_HORIZONTAL:::3:81:16:]
[OVERRIDE:111:B:AXLE_VERTICAL:::3:67:16:]
[OVERRIDE:9:B:AXLE_VERTICAL:::3:83:16:]

The extra :16: at the end is the new foreground color. That's why they are white.

[OVERRIDE:Tile:Kind:Id:Type:Subtype:Tileset:NewTile:NewFg:NewBg:MatFlag:Mat1:Mat2:Mat3]

[vettlingr]

Hmm. I'm at a loss for words.

Not sure if i'm crazy enough to implement this. What does one line of code in the overrides look like?
is it
[OVERRIDE:0:T:StoneWallUD:X:0]
[OVERRIDE:1:T:StoneWallUD:X:1]
[OVERRIDE:2:T:StoneWallUD:X:2]
[OVERRIDE:3:T:StoneWallUD:X:3]
...
[OVERRIDE:0:T:MineralWallUD:X:0]
[OVERRIDE:1:T:MineralWallUD:X:1]

 and doesn´t it exclude the tiles for walls, water, rock, floors,  and minetracks? If so, that would make the number of overrides less than 256.

Colors:

[OVERRIDE:205:B:AXLE_HORIZONTAL:::3:65:16:]
[OVERRIDE:179:B:AXLE_HORIZONTAL:::3:66:16:]
[OVERRIDE:186:B:AXLE_HORIZONTAL:::3:80:16:]
[OVERRIDE:196:B:AXLE_HORIZONTAL:::3:81:16:]
[OVERRIDE:111:B:AXLE_VERTICAL:::3:67:16:]
[OVERRIDE:9:B:AXLE_VERTICAL:::3:83:16:]

The extra :16: at the end is the new foreground color. That's why they are white.

[OVERRIDE:Tile:Kind:Id:Type:Subtype:Tileset:NewTile:NewFg:NewBg:MatFlag:Mat1:Mat2:Mat3]

Ah, that explains it. Not sure if I want to change it though. I always like to have all my Cabinets, tables, chairs, mechanisms and so forth the same color.

[Meph]

Hmm. I'm at a loss for words.

Not sure if i'm crazy enough to implement this. What does one line of code in the overrides look like?
is it
[OVERRIDE:0:T:StoneWallUD:X:0]
[OVERRIDE:1:T:StoneWallUD:X:1]
[OVERRIDE:2:T:StoneWallUD:X:2]
[OVERRIDE:3:T:StoneWallUD:X:3]
...
[OVERRIDE:0:T:MineralWallUD:X:0]
[OVERRIDE:1:T:MineralWallUD:X:1]

 and doesn´t it exclude the tiles for walls, water, rock, floors,  and minetracks? If so, that would make the number of overrides less than 256.

Don't worry about the lines, I'll do them anyway for my set now. You gave me the idea.

A single line looks like
[OVERRIDE:0:T:StoneWallSmoothUD:_MDF_overrides_18:0]. But tile 0 doesn't have to lead to override 0. You can do 1024 sprites for 1 wall section; or just 1. I think I'll go for something along the lines of 32 or 64. I try to find a workaround for the floors. With 32 cool engraving sprites, it would add a total of 382 sprites for the 12 wall sections; and 3072 override lines for that. Mostly copy/paste/mass-replace. ^^

You'll see what I mean once I have a version for my set running.

[vettlingr]

I've been trying out some alternate sprite sheets for furniture. so far I like the result a lot.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Been looking and testing with the top layer, so far, adding white highlights with it works very well in game.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Tried the same for the statues

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The highlight top layer effect is very apparent in the above example, since the highlight detail is not lost upon df giving the assset color.

[Meph]

The top files will always retain their color, no matter what df does. Good for looks, bad for things that should change color, like objects covered in mud, vomit, blood... Or marked forbidden. Try avoiding using all of the Sprite in the top files.

The furniture shown are all rock items, a little bit randomized, like the statues in my set?

[vettlingr]

The top files will always retain their color, no matter what df does. Good for looks, bad for things that should change color, like objects covered in mud, vomit, blood... Or marked forbidden. Try avoiding using all of the Sprite in the top files.

The furniture shown are all rock items, a little bit randomized, like the statues in my set?

Yep! found that slight variation is king. Though I may remake the statues and coffers later.

[Meph]

I would consider using wall-top files to make the color a little bit more uniform:

Left current look, right with some hardcoded grey.

[vettlingr]

THis is only getting better and better.

[vettlingr]

Started working on the second Furniture Sprite Sheet today. This one is starting off with Floodgates.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I would consider using wall-top files to make the color a little bit more uniform:

Left current look, right with some hardcoded grey.

I've been playing around with that before. I just dont like the result. I like my fortress to look part candyland . I am probably also going to put in Higlight layers in -top, and then I would have to do it all over again.

Anyway mate, is there a way to override Weapon, cage and stonefall traps, as well as Pressure plates?

Edit: And what about Built stationary instruments, any way to use overrides for them?

[Meph]

Yes and yes. You can override instruments and traps.

Do you need the overrides for that?

[vettlingr]

Yes and yes. You can override instruments and traps.

Do you need the overrides for that?

I think I found the Instrument override among your files.
[OVERRIDE:168:I:INSTRUMENT:INSTRUMENT::_MDF_overrides_13:200:::BONE]
[OVERRIDE:168:B:INSTRUMENT_STATIONARY:Instrument::_MDF_overrides_13:200:::BONE]

But the traps I cannot find yet.

[Meph]

Code: [Select]

[OVERRIDE:94:B:TRAP:Trap:1:_MDF_overrides_5:113:6] pressure plate
[OVERRIDE:94:B:TRAP:Trap:2:_MDF_overrides_5:128]3 cage
[OVERRIDE:94:B:TRAP:Trap:3:_MDF_overrides_5:129:16] stonefall
[OVERRIDE:94:B:TRAP:Trap:4:_MDF_overrides_5:112:7] weapon

[vettlingr]

Code: [Select]

[OVERRIDE:94:B:TRAP:Trap:1:_MDF_overrides_5:113:6] pressure plate
[OVERRIDE:94:B:TRAP:Trap:2:_MDF_overrides_5:128]3 cage
[OVERRIDE:94:B:TRAP:Trap:3:_MDF_overrides_5:129:16] stonefall
[OVERRIDE:94:B:TRAP:Trap:4:_MDF_overrides_5:112:7] weapon

Is there any way to make traps look different when built upon smoothed/constructed floors?

I guess you could make them have different  sprites depending on what their mechanisms are made from.



I'm just asking because I'm curious, I dont think im going to implement any variation here.

Edit
Next Spritesheet is in. this one adds alternative graphics for even more furniture.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

also includes custom graphics for rocks, gems and stationary instruments. As well as custom sprites for each ore, flux, coal and special ore.