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George_Chickens

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Re: Better vampires
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2018, 04:34:11 am »

You can switch off the ability to view all legends entities in worldgen. You will then have to discover every character, event and item before it shows up.
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Re: Better vampires
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2018, 06:08:18 am »

Vampires should not appear in legends until they are killed. I want my murders scenarios and I still want to use Legend Viewer :(
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You can switch off the ability to view all legends entities in worldgen. You will then have to discover every character, event and item before it shows up.

Which comes with its own set of problems, like my character not knowing what happens in their hometown ten years ago when they were twenty.

This is a thread about making better vampires, so here's my suggestion : hide them better. To me it's just a no-brainer. Vampire gameplay is based on the idea they are hard to find. Their survival strategy relies on remaining hidden in the crowd. I want to see my legends, because legends is part of the gameplay, and I want to vampire hunt, because it's part of the gameplay aswell.

There should be a way to conciliate the two, like adding a switch "don't tell me about content whose value rely on me not being aware of it"
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Re: Better vampires
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2018, 06:49:25 am »

Maybe some sort of "Hide villains" switch, to tie in with the whole villain arc. Thereby hiding the private identity of villains such as vampires (maybe when they assume a name, it simply hides all records after that with "in the year xxxx, Vampire McVampireson assumed a secret identity to avoid detection" until they die, at which point their history becomes unhidden (letting you confirm your hunches)
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Re: Better vampires
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2018, 10:39:39 pm »

Then make it a switch, as Dorsi said. Not everyone plays the same way you do.
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Re: Better vampires
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2018, 11:28:42 pm »

Villain identities should probably have more to do with how publicly the villain's identity is known.  Unless there's an in-game reason why you should suddenly know who they are once they are dead.

There should probably be an in-game legends mode where you are able to view all of the information that your character knows. This would include common knowledge and details about what happened in their hometown, and be filled in with more information (including misinformation) as they talk to other characters.

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Re: Better vampires
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2018, 05:45:21 am »

Then make it a switch, as Dorsi said. Not everyone plays the same way you do.


Villain identities should probably have more to do with how publicly the villain's identity is known.  Unless there's an in-game reason why you should suddenly know who they are once they are dead.

There should probably be an in-game legends mode where you are able to view all of the information that your character knows. This would include common knowledge and details about what happened in their hometown, and be filled in with more information (including misinformation) as they talk to other characters.

Well, right now what we have is a choice between "we know nothing at the start and knowledge accumulated is shared among all player characters" and "we know litterally everything". My idea was primarily to enhance vampires/spies/villains by not telling players about their secret identity, but anything enhancing immersion is a plus in my books

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Re: Better vampires
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2019, 06:36:10 pm »

with regards to the "temples should have downsides so you can't just plop down a temple that all your dwarfs have to pass through" what about "ritual cleaning".

like one of the first vending machines was designed to dispense a ball of soap and some water to ritually clean yourself with (Hero of Alexandria)
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