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[SpeardwarfErith]

I'm making a mod that, among other things, adds scale and lamellar armour. I want the process of crafting these to be rather long, and I have a series of custom reactions for it- For example, a scale shirt is made by producing several stacks of scales, then riveting them to a a leather shirt.

My issue is that because these armours have the [METAL] tag, these reactions are useless- They can just be produced in one easy step through the "armour" submenu of the forge. Removing the [METAL] token from their raws fixes this, but also stops them from appearing naturally in the world. This occurs despite the fact that the civilization has access to both the scale-making and scale-riveting reactions.

Is there a way to force the player to use the custom reactions, while still giving world-gen civs access to my armour?

[Grimlocke]

Not without DFhackery. Not sure if anyone has written a script to either remove those reactions or make them produce something else instead, would be interested if someone has.

[Meph]

Make their Material size extremely large, so people dont use the forge?

[SpeardwarfErith]

Make their Material size extremely large, so people dont use the forge?

I thought of that, but that seems somewhat ^exteremely inelegant.

[Meph]

Well, welcome to df modding. Either your civ can make it, but so can the player, or the player cant make it in the forge, but neither can your worldgen civ.

In short: items from custom reactions wont be used in worldgen.

[SpeardwarfErith]

Well, [MATERIAL_SIZE:9999] here I come...

[Meph]

What's so bad about worldgen not using it? People still have it in their forts.

[SpeardwarfErith]

It's just that this is an overhaul, not an add-on. If the civs don't have it, they'll show up naked.

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

Thinking about it, doesn't MATERIAL_SIZE also affect the (m)elt option? so melting a piece could give you insane amounts of it?

[SpeardwarfErith]

Not to mention that your dwarves will literally haul every single metal bar in your fortress to the workshop before giving the not enough bars error...

[Grimlocke]

So I'm wondering, is it possible to use DFhack to transform whatever output a default reaction has into something else? I know that's possible with raw modded reactions so it shouldn't be a huge stretch for default ones.

If you can do that you can just turn whatever output the default reactions has either into nothing or some unfinished product.

[SpeardwarfErith]

Yes! There's modtools/reaction-product-trigger that does exactly that. Thanks, I think that's what I'll do.

[SpeardwarfErith]

By Armok, I have been blind. I present to you straight from the DFHack documentation page for the Eventful plugin the following excerpt:

2. removeNative(shop_name)

Removes native choice list from the building.

I will test it to see how it works, and hopefully I can mark this as [SOLVED]

[SpeardwarfErith]

After finally finding out what eventful refers to forges as, I have been able to use the following code to remove the natural reactions from the forge. Thankfully, eventful is managed by a lua script, so I can hopefully recreate the removeNative function in such a way that it only targets a specific reaction.

Code: [Select]

eventful = require "plugins.eventful"
eventful.removeNative("METALSMITHSFORGE")
eventful.addReactionToShop("FORGE_SCALES_COPPER", "METALSMITHSFORGE")
eventful.addReactionToShop("FORGE_SCALES_BRONZE", "METALSMITHSFORGE")
eventful.addReactionToShop("FORGE_SCALES_BISMUTH", "METALSMITHSFORGE")
--etc etc etc

[Meph]

Once you do have the final solution, please post it for others to use too. :-)