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[QuestionMan]

Hello. I'm new here.

I have a problem trying to mod a new race which uses its tail for GRASP, I thought you may know how I could solve it.

The problem is that I can not cover that tail with any armor. In my tests those little beings lost their tails at the very beginning of a battle, sailed of in an arc every time.

Tried to cover them with Chain mail which has LBSTEP:1 (it should be enough, isn't it?) also tried to cover it with a gauntlet but the tail is not  or . I gave their tails  and  tokens, maybe that is the thing causing problems? Could segmenting the tail solve the problem? Still the tail is not LEFT or RIGHT to use a gauntlet.

How could I make this work? Any way to create an armor to cover specificaly tails? Could I do body armor to protect it?


I found this: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=18536.0  Where Toady explains how does it work. I tried but failed.

Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

if reading that right, the creatures pants need to have an UPSTEP greater than 1. as UPPERBODY armor would hit the LOWERBODY and stop? and if it stopped there, then it won't bleed into the tail

[QuestionMan]

Hello.

I just tried. I gave greaves UBSTEP:1. Equipped the thing with steel greaves, high boots etc and with a single hit with an iron sword it sailed off in an arc, again. I think it does not work because of GRASP token.

[thefriendlyhacker]

AFAIK Armor won't extend over a grasp body part, full stop.

Try adding another body part to the tail (call it tail grasp or something) and make it internal, small, default relsize one and add grasp to it, not your tail.  That way your tail will be armored as normal for a tail, and the hidden internal part is what actually does the carrying weapons bit.

[QuestionMan]

Ok, thanks. I'm going to try that.

-Edit

I did and it worked! I didn't know that SMALL along with INTERNAL could have such result. I did read the wiki but missed that part. Thanks.

[Putnam]

I did and it worked! I didn't know that SMALL along with INTERNAL could have such result. I did read the wiki but missed that part. Thanks.

It's a rather popular sort of thing--used to be used for telekinesis quite a bit, too, making the brain or similar a grasp part. Leads to brain gloves, but other than that it's pretty cool.

[thefriendlyhacker]

I did and it worked! I didn't know that SMALL along with INTERNAL could have such result. I did read the wiki but missed that part. Thanks.

It's a rather popular sort of thing--used to be used for telekinesis quite a bit, too, making the brain or similar a grasp part. Leads to brain gloves, but other than that it's pretty cool.

AFAIK That only happens if you include RIGHT or LEFT on your grasper.  Unicorn telekinesis is implemented that way in Fallout Equestria, and they do not wear gloves on the telekinesis parts inside their horns - I just tested in arena by spawning a unicorn with a bunch of gloves, and the unicorn only wore gloves on it's front hooves (which have GRASP and LEFT/RIGHT), but not it's mouth or the Telekinesis body parts inside it's horn (which only have GRASP).  However, this changed when I "hot-modded" the two horn TK graspers of a unicorn caste through gui/gm-editor and gave one grasper left and the other right - then they could have gloves on their telekinesis.

[Bob69Joe]

I know nothing of how to make it work, but have them tie their tails up in battle like the Sayans of Dragonball.

[vjmdhzgr]

If you make a custom reaction you can make non-sided gloves for the tail. This also gives the benefit of being able to make a custom armor name so it doesn't sound stupid to put gauntlets on your tail.

[KittyTac]

I know nothing of how to make it work, but have them tie their tails up in battle like the Sayans of Dragonball.

I don't think you can. It's easy to overestimate DF.