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NTJedi

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Training Children
« on: August 02, 2018, 09:20:34 pm »
I could not find any topics about training children which were not at least 2 years old, so I created this topic since those old topics might have incorrect information.  Not sure why teenage dwarves are not allowed to be 'students' learning skills, especially in a world where violent monsters and civilizations attack to kill!!  I am sure JRR Tolkien would also agree that younger dwarves would not be lazy the first 18years.

Anyways, the wiki where it mentions removing the -child- tag as an option, but do any other methods or tricks exist so we don't have these lazy dwarves for 12 years!???
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Leonidas

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Re: Training Children
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2018, 09:47:17 pm »
You can definitely teach them to swim. You could probably throw them off cliffs (into water) to teach them to climb.
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Re: Training Children
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2018, 10:24:54 pm »
Maybe you could automate that by dropping all toys behind a pressure plate-driven system that flushes children into the mandatory pool, from which they have to swim to escape? That shouldn't be too hard to set up.
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Re: Training Children
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2018, 11:59:48 pm »
There's a really good thread about Dwarven Primary Education/Daycare, but I don't have the link. Someone else will be here shortly with it, I assume. Until then, it involves dogs. Nice happy dogs make for nice happy adults....
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Re: Training Children
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2018, 01:24:28 am »
Quote from: recneps on August 02, 2018, 11:59:48 pm
There's a really good thread about Dwarven Primary Education/Daycare, but I don't have the link. Someone else will be here shortly with it, I assume. Until then, it involves dogs. Nice happy dogs make for nice happy adults....
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91093.0

It kind of fell out of use after combat mechanic changes. Now it mostly results in mangled children.
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Re: Training Children
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2018, 02:19:57 am »
The skills I have seen them learn are observer, grower, and swimmer, plus the social skills(?).
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Re: Training Children
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2018, 03:26:01 am »
And no pick a nit: Teenage dwarves *are* allowed to be students, as they're considered adult at 12...

Schools/apprenticeships for kids would be nice, though (in particular if apprenticeships would result in useful strange mood artifacts).
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Re: Training Children
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2018, 10:26:37 am »
Saga of Logan has an example with the post-43.04 combat system live training, so I guess that part might be still doable, if different. No more peppering with spears (or balista, I guess), though.

And of course, little changed with climbing/swimming/etc.
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Saiko Kila

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Re: Training Children
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2018, 03:10:27 pm »
They are not lazy. They play games all the time (*). This makes them happy, which is a nice buffer before adult life crushes their spirit.

BTW children naturally learn planting and speaking (I don't count social skills, which generally remain low), so they are not that useless. You can make them diplomats and send to the hillocks, and get other specialists in exchange.

*) I had recently an adult dwarf playing with toys for days - he grew up while playing, but didn't stop.
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