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HOW DO YOU DREAM?

BEEG
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YUGE
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I dream of profits because I'm secretly Salviosi
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Author Topic: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1917 A.C. Cold Season (COMPLETE)  (Read 78700 times)

Jerick

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Re: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1916 A.C. Hot Season (Design Phase)
« Reply #705 on: February 21, 2019, 06:04:54 am »

Spoiler: The Sky Tyrant (click to show/hide)
So here's my submission for the special design (It's an offensive one obviously). I'm not entirely happy with the lift and power systems on it though. They could do with being a lot crazier.
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Re: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1916 A.C. Hot Season (Design Phase)
« Reply #706 on: February 21, 2019, 08:16:15 am »

I was thinking this is a good time to incorporate c-railguns onto a design, personally.
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Re: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1916 A.C. Hot Season (Design Phase)
« Reply #707 on: February 21, 2019, 10:12:35 am »

I was thinking this is a good time to incorporate c-railguns onto a design, personally.

C-Railgun turrets on the Ymir for anti-air protection? The big hull probably has the room. Material cost is not a concern here, just complexity.
If it didn't feel a bit too nuke like, I would repost the HADES for this contest. as is it feels a little too much like making a nuke.

EDIT: On the subject of the normal design, Here's the Odysseus


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Re: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1916 A.C. Hot Season (Design Phase)
« Reply #708 on: February 21, 2019, 10:46:24 pm »

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Design:
Odysseus interceptor (1): Frostgiant

National effort design:

Ymir (1) :Frostgiant

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Re: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1916 A.C. Hot Season (Design Phase)
« Reply #709 on: February 22, 2019, 12:18:34 am »

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Design:
Odysseus interceptor (1): Frostgiant
Daedalus-H (1): TFF

National effort design:

Ymir (1) :Frostgiant
Not Sure yet (1): TFF


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Jerick

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Re: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1916 A.C. Hot Season (Design Phase)
« Reply #710 on: February 22, 2019, 05:39:24 am »

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Design:
Odysseus interceptor (2): Frostgiant, Jerick
Daedalus-H (1): TFF

National effort design:

Ymir (1) :Frostgiant
Sky Tyrant (1): Jerick
Not Sure yet (1): TFF

Use credit on special design
Yes (1): Jerick
No ():
My reasoning; For the Odysseus the propulsion system is more interesting to me than the Daealus's and I feel it'll get far more speed and preformance than the Daedalus. The Daedalus is a biplane which is excellent for stability but provides more drag which reduces top speed. The fletching type wings of the Odysseus will likely provide far less drag and be able to squeze a higher top speed out of it.

As for the Sky Tyrant versus the Ymir the size of the Ymir will limit it's movements on the ground. It does hover but it's massive girth will make many obstacles around it awkward. For the record I approve of massive SPGs but in this case it's big enough to be far more effective if it just flies. I also feel the Sky Tyrant will be much more survivable than the Ymir. Still I'm open to suggested improvements to it.

Edit:On thinking about the relative size of the Jotunn to the 350 meter warship I was mounting it on I realised I was massively underestimating the size of the ship and over estimating the size of the cannon. I have corrected this. The Sky Tyrant now mounts an appropriate number of Jotunn cannons instead of one and I may have shamelessly stolen frostgiant's shells because who doesn't love wickerman cluster munitions?
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Re: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1916 A.C. Hot Season (Design Phase)
« Reply #711 on: February 22, 2019, 10:07:05 pm »

We have superior naval tech, and this will work well for us I think. Also they now have demo teams to take out our fortifications.

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Design:
Odysseus interceptor (2): Frostgiant, Jerick
Daedalus-H (1): TFF

National effort design:

Ymir (1) :Frostgiant
Sky Tyrant (1): Jerick
Not Sure yet (1): TFF

Use credit on special design
Yes (1): Jerick
No ():

Blow the Harren Bridges?
Yes (1): Doomblade
No (0):
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Re: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1916 A.C. Hot Season (Design Phase)
« Reply #712 on: February 22, 2019, 10:46:28 pm »

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Design:
Odysseus interceptor (2): Frostgiant, Jerick
Pegasus Air Superiority Craft (1): TFF

National effort design:

Ymir (1) :Frostgiant
Sky Tyrant (1): Jerick
Not Sure yet (1): TFF

Use credit on special design
Yes (1): Jerick
No ():

Blow the Harren Bridges?
Yes (2): Doomblade, TFF
No (0):


After getting sleep, I am dropping the Icarus after discussion with FrostGiant and the voices in my head. The Pegasus should be a good amount simpler than the Icarus. As to why this over the Odysseus, my two concerns are speed and gun. As to speed, the mix of a mass reduction, actual propulsion and cealium should produce much greater speeds. Personally I feel a speed of around 200kmh is about right for this (assuming it functions) due to the combination of terminal velocity and turbines. As to gun, 10 rounds is simply way too little, and 60mm is too heavy. A 40mm will allow a craft to carry more ammo, weigh less and fire faster.
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Re: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1916 A.C. Hot Season (Design Phase)
« Reply #713 on: February 22, 2019, 11:39:11 pm »

I was thinking about the sky tyrant. Discussion was had in discord regarding Jotunn airburst shells, specifically the Rime shell. This would deny a large area, larger than a ground burst shell, and could easily be used defensively as well as offensively.

Apparently airburst shells use altitude triggers, and we just need to make it so that they don't arm until fired and have the altimeter circuitry.
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Re: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1916 A.C. Hot Season (Design Phase)
« Reply #714 on: February 23, 2019, 12:00:40 am »

Odyssues main gun changed to 40mm automatic, so as to carry more shot into combat as well as increase hits. Now fires  Tungsten carbide Armour piercing discarded sabot shells instead of regular explosives, to add to the chance of piercing the charbdises armour, which is am dubious of for a normal 40mm.
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Re: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1916 A.C. Hot Season (Design Phase)
« Reply #715 on: February 23, 2019, 12:42:06 am »

We should move the d-prom layer to the second layer of armor, not ths first. The melting usually happens after the bullet penetrates, not before. Further, I think we should clarify the lift mechanism of the ship as a series of powdered caelium oil tubes running throughout the ship, nested in the internals.

I also want to improve power systems, but am unsure how.
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Jerick

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Re: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1916 A.C. Hot Season (Design Phase)
« Reply #716 on: February 23, 2019, 06:42:28 am »

The d-prom layer was supposed to be the first several layers for precisely this reason but on rereading I hadn't made that remotely clear. Added a bit of clarification to the rods and the armour.

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Design:
Odysseus interceptor (2): Frostgiant, Jerick
Pegasus Air Superiority Craft (1): TFF

National effort design:

Ymir (1) :Frostgiant
Sky Tyrant (1): Jerick
Not Sure yet (1): TFF

Use credit on special design
Yes (1): Jerick
No ():

Blow the Harren Bridges?
Yes (3): Doomblade, TFF, Jerick
No (0):
I'm torn over if I should support, the Pegasus or the Odysseus. We certainly need a fighter that works. I'm leaning towards the Pegasus right now because speed is good. But I could easily be swayed by with some good arguments. The bridges, on the other hand, I'm pretty certain of. We should blow them. We've got big nasty landing craft and lots of hover tech we'll be less inhibited by the lack of bridges than the Salviosi will.
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Re: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1916 A.C. Hot Season (Design Phase)
« Reply #717 on: February 23, 2019, 01:53:51 pm »


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Design:
Odysseus interceptor (2): Frostgiant, Jerick
Pegasus Air Superiority Craft (1): TFF

National effort design:

Ymir (0) :
Sky Tyrant (2): Jerick, Frostgiant
Not Sure yet (1): TFF

Use credit on special design
Yes (1): Jerick
No ():

Blow the Harren Bridges?
Yes (4): Doomblade, TFF, Jerick, Frostgiant
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Re: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1916 A.C. Hot Season (Design Phase)
« Reply #718 on: February 23, 2019, 04:10:57 pm »

Quote from: Powered Arms for Power Armours (Revision)
Weight and Momentum are fickle friends in melee combat. Light weapons are easy maneuver but rarely have much power behind them, whilst heavy ones are slow and unwieldy, yet devastating on a hit. This was thus a trade off our ancestors had to make. But we are not constrained like them. We can have the best of both worlds.

We shall take one of our middle age counterpart's warhammer designs, scale it up and refine it for modern forging technology. To counteract the additional weight, we will use C-Steel, connected to a trigger in the grip. When applied, the weapon will be lighter than its ancient counterpart, but when disengaged the full weight will once again be within gravity's harsh grip.

A trained user will thus be able to maneuver the powered weapon as quickly as a wooden staff, then leverage the full weight for powerful blows. The Saltviosi want a melee fight, and they shall have one.

Quote from: Powered Arms for Power Armours - Advanced (Revision)
Identical to the above version, except for one key aspect:

By twisting the phase of some of the Caelium powder and sending an inverted charge, we have discovered that Caelium will in fact gain weight, in inverse proportion to how regular Caelium reduces it. This means that with a flock of a switch the warhammer can go from light as a staff to as heavy as an anvil, all through the power of physics bending technology.

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Design:
Odysseus interceptor (3): Frostgiant, Jerick, Kashyyk
Pegasus Air Superiority Craft (1): TFF

National effort design:

Ymir (0) :
Sky Tyrant (2): Jerick, Frostgiant
Not Sure yet (2): TFF, Kashyyk

Use credit on special design
Yes (2): Jerick, Kashyyk
No ():

Blow the Harren Bridges?
Yes (5): Doomblade, TFF, Jerick, Frostgiant, Kashyyk
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Re: Industrialized Warfare: Abbera Thread / 1916 A.C. Hot Season (Design Phase)
« Reply #719 on: February 25, 2019, 09:57:13 am »

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Design:
Odysseus interceptor (3): Frostgiant, Jerick, Kashyyk
Pegasus Air Superiority Craft (1): TFF

National effort design:

Ymir (0) :
Sky Tyrant (3): Jerick, Frostgiant, Doomblade
Not Sure yet (2): TFF, Kashyyk

Use credit on special design
Yes (3): Jerick, Kashyyk, Doomblade
No ():

Blow the Harren Bridges?
Yes (5): Doomblade, TFF, Jerick, Frostgiant, Kashyyk
No (0):
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