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Author Topic: Arks Race - Tokari: Ark Anvil (Jump 1, Revision)  (Read 12588 times)

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Re: Arks Race - Consortium Ark (Jump 0, Revision)
« Reply #90 on: July 14, 2018, 05:08:42 pm »

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Revisions for Jump 0:

Chemovisual Resource Identification System (1): Iridium
Automated Drone Hierarchies (4): helmacon, Blood_librarian, DoubloonSeven, Cnidaros
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Ship Names

Havoc: (0)
Anvil: (4) Jilladilla, Frostgiant, FallacyofUrist, helmacon
Osprey: (3) Iridium, DoubloonSeven, Thanik
Catalyst: (0)
BARK: (1) Cnidaros
Wait: (1) Blood_Librarian
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Group Names

Eternal Freemen: (0)
The Space Communists: (0)
The Union of Soviet Socialist Space Republics (USSSR): (3) Helmacon, Jilladilla, Cnidaros
Vulcan Technocrats (1) Frostgiant
Tokari (2): Thanik, DoubloonSeven
Wait: (4) Blood_Librarian, Iridium, FallacyofUrist
Tokari is neat. Apparently it's "Turners" in Russian. Turners, as in turning over a new leaf for a humanity and opposing the company for trying to bring the faults of Earth with them. More sympathetic to me than space commies, but we can still be Russian I guess.
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Re: Arks Race - Consortium Ark (Jump 0, Revision)
« Reply #91 on: July 14, 2018, 05:34:12 pm »

Right. Right. Sorry, sorry, USSSR is funny and great, but the Consortium is a secretive and shadowy organization, the name just doesn't really fit.
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Revisions for Jump 0:

Chemovisual Resource Identification System (1): Iridium
Automated Drone Hierarchies (4): helmacon, Blood_librarian, DoubloonSeven, Cnidaros
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Ship Names

Havoc: (0)
Anvil: (4) Jilladilla, Frostgiant, FallacyofUrist, helmacon
Osprey: (3) Iridium, DoubloonSeven, Thanik
Catalyst: (0)
BARK: (1) Cnidaros
Wait: (1) Blood_Librarian
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Group Names

Eternal Freemen: (0)
The Space Communists: (0)
The Union of Soviet Socialist Space Republics (USSSR): (2) Helmacon, Cnidaros
Vulcan Technocrats (1) Frostgiant
Tokari (3): Thanik, DoubloonSeven, Jilladilla
Wait: (3) Blood_Librarian, Iridium, FallacyofUrist
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Re: Arks Race - Consortium Ark (Jump 0, Revision)
« Reply #92 on: July 14, 2018, 06:01:06 pm »

Let's not start a vote, as more then half the people will end up not liking the name anyways.
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Re: Arks Race - Consortium Ark (Jump 0, Revision)
« Reply #93 on: July 14, 2018, 06:11:14 pm »

We can't not choose a name, though, and I don't see what other methods of deciding the name there could be. I mean, ChiefWaffles specifically said we had to get a name.
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Re: Arks Race - Consortium Ark (Jump 0, Revision)
« Reply #94 on: July 14, 2018, 08:06:57 pm »


Quote from: Votebox
Revisions for Jump 0:

Chemovisual Resource Identification System (1): Iridium
Automated Drone Hierarchies (5): helmacon, Blood_librarian, DoubloonSeven, Cnidaros, Frostgiant
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Ship Names

Havoc: (0)
Anvil: (4) Jilladilla, Frostgiant, FallacyofUrist, helmacon
Osprey: (3) Iridium, DoubloonSeven, Thanik
Catalyst: (0)
BARK: (1) Cnidaros
Wait: (1) Blood_Librarian
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Group Names

Eternal Freemen: (0)
The Space Communists: (0)
The Union of Soviet Socialist Space Republics (USSSR): (2) Helmacon, Cnidaros
Vulcan Technocrats (0)
Tokari (4): Thanik, DoubloonSeven, Jilladilla, Frostgiant
Wait: (3) Blood_Librarian, Iridium, FallacyofUrist

I'll put my vote into Drone hierarchy for now, before we get an answer to if we can cancel a project.
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Re: Arks Race - Consortium Ark (Jump 0, Revision)
« Reply #95 on: July 14, 2018, 10:16:47 pm »

Quote from: Votebox
Revisions for Jump 0:

Chemovisual Resource Identification System (1): Iridium
Automated Drone Hierarchies (6): helmacon, Blood_librarian, DoubloonSeven, Cnidaros, Frostgiant, Crazyabe
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Ship Names

Havoc: (0)
Anvil: (4) Jilladilla, Frostgiant, FallacyofUrist, helmacon
Osprey: (4) Iridium, DoubloonSeven, Thanik, Crazyabe
Catalyst: (0)
BARK: (1) Cnidaros
Wait: (1) Blood_Librarian
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Group Names

Eternal Freemen: (0)
The Space Communists: (0)
The Union of Soviet Socialist Space Republics (USSSR): (2) Helmacon, Cnidaros
Vulcan Technocrats (0)
Tokari (5): Thanik, DoubloonSeven, Jilladilla, Frostgiant, Crazyabe
Wait: (3) Blood_Librarian, Iridium, FallacyofUrist
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Re: Arks Race - Consortium Ark (Jump 0, Revision)
« Reply #96 on: July 15, 2018, 03:28:50 pm »

Quote from: Votebox
Revisions for Jump 0:

Chemovisual Resource Identification System (0):
Automated Drone Hierarchies (7): helmacon, Blood_librarian, DoubloonSeven, Cnidaros, Frostgiant, Crazyabe, Iridium
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Ship Names

Havoc: (0)
Anvil: (4) Jilladilla, Frostgiant, FallacyofUrist, helmacon
Osprey: (4) Iridium, DoubloonSeven, Thanik, Crazyabe
Catalyst: (0)
BARK: (1) Cnidaros
Wait: (1) Blood_Librarian
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Group Names

Eternal Freemen: (0)
The Space Communists: (0)
The Union of Soviet Socialist Space Republics (USSSR): (2) Helmacon, Cnidaros
Vulcan Technocrats (0)
Tokari (6): Thanik, DoubloonSeven, Jilladilla, Frostgiant, Crazyabe, Iridium
Wait: (2) Blood_Librarian, FallacyofUrist
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Re: Arks Race - Consortium Ark (Jump 0, Revision)
« Reply #97 on: July 15, 2018, 03:38:16 pm »

Well uh, if it helps people switch over to Osprey, the current leading group name meshes far better with Osprey than it does with Anvil. The Tokari are migrating to try and plant the seeds of a better life than Earth could ever have. The Osprey flies because it must, and because it finds joy in flight. An Anvil is used as a tool at the whims of another. The Anvil feels nothing, for it is cold metal. The Anvil is forged upon not because it wishes to help create the future, and only resists its withering existence of toil because it cannot see an alternative.

Prose aside, Blood_Librarian should probably pick something.
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Re: Arks Race - Consortium Ark (Jump 0, Revision)
« Reply #98 on: July 15, 2018, 03:53:03 pm »

Ah, but our Ark, our home, will take immense punishment in our trek to a new home. A bird is graceful yes, but oh so fragile. An anvil is durable, and will endure. We took this flight not on a whim, not for joy; but because we saw no alternative for our brighter future for humanity than to forge it off of this ship!
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Re: Arks Race - Consortium Ark (Jump 0, Revision)
« Reply #99 on: July 15, 2018, 04:00:40 pm »

You're talking about one of the largest and most cosmopolitan raptors as if it were a songbird. Furthermore, the Osprey flies because it must. This is not to say that one cannot find enjoyment in its life, and so as the Osprey finds joy in the flight and dives that it must perform to live, the Osprey will find happiness in its task of sheparding humanity on toward the stars into a great and wondrous future. Weapons are forged yes, and so are tools. The Osprey, however, plants the seeds of life.
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Re: Arks Race - Consortium Ark (Jump 0)
« Reply #100 on: July 15, 2018, 07:21:03 pm »

Jump 0: Revision Phase

Revision: Automated Drone Hierarchies
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The potential for massive and efficient resource mining is present in our drone swarms, but their lack of organization makes this difficult. The obvious solution would be to make the drones smarter, but the obvious solution is rarely the best one. Instead, we will make a majority of the drones far less intelligent, with only a few that are made much more intelligent. These smarter drones work as control centers, directing the actions of the "Dumb" drones. Each one acts as a foreman in charge of a group of about a dozen smaller drones. The "dumb" drones transmit positioning and receive orders. Other than that, the only things they can do is move and mine. The larger drones identify suitable objects for mining and direct the smaller drones to these areas. They monitor weight loads, coordinate movement paths, and generally do all the intellectual heavy lifting. This simple network for mining drone coordination will hopefully lay the groundwork for much bigger things such as coordinating smart munitions and firing paths as well as advanced mechanized infantry.
This should not increase the cost, since we are essentially just centralizing the processing power of the drones already built.
Efficacy: [3]

Centralizing the processing power in the drones and making some more advanced software for the centralized spots has certainly alleviated our issues. But as we had to decrease the processing power of other drones in order to accomplish this without increasing cost, we've still ran into some problems. As the majority of the drones now have little-to-no intelligence, each master drone has to manage every drone one-by-one. It's able to successfully avoid the problems of old, but it takes a while to do all those calculations. The swarm is much slower, with lots of drones waiting for new orders as the local Master drone is busy with others.

Still, though. The new system produces 20 Noble Gases, 20 Uranium, 100 Hydrogen, 200 Metals, and 200 Non-Metals / Jump without increasing costs, which is a notable benefit.


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The Production Phase of Jump 0 has begun. We will encounter the Corporate Ark on the beginning of Jump 3.
Barring special circumstances, voting for Company and Ark names will conclude at the end of this Jump. Meaning the end of this phase; last chance to vote.
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Re: Arks Race - Consortium Ark (Jump 0, Production)
« Reply #101 on: July 15, 2018, 08:23:38 pm »

So uhh. Guys. the regular mining bays are *way* better than our done swarms.
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Re: Arks Race - Consortium Ark (Jump 0, Production)
« Reply #102 on: July 15, 2018, 08:28:53 pm »

Well, I guess. The drones do actually produce hydrogen, though.

Also, I'm not really convinced we should build anything.
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Re: Arks Race - Consortium Ark (Jump 0, Production)
« Reply #103 on: July 15, 2018, 08:31:20 pm »

Well. The drones are a bit... Ah... Bad. Less cost effective than our starter miners, although this doesn't use Life Support Capacity at least.

Given how Life Support is, it may be at a premium, so that could end up being fairly valuable. If not and Power becomes the bottleneck this is total garbage. Decent stepping stone to things like automated fighters and other computing things though.

Now, production. Do we want to make any copies of already our existent things? Can't prototype any of our stuff yet. Also, bear in mind that we aren't getting any new resources until Jump 3, so don't empty the stockpile.

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Havoc: (0)
Anvil: (4) Jilladilla, Frostgiant, FallacyofUrist, helmacon
Osprey: (4) Iridium, DoubloonSeven, Thanik, Crazyabe
Catalyst: (0)
BARK: (1) Cnidaros
Wait: (1) Blood_Librarian
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Group Names

Eternal Freemen: (0)
The Space Communists: (0)
The Union of Soviet Socialist Space Republics (USSSR): (2) Helmacon, Cnidaros
Vulcan Technocrats (0)
Tokari (6): Thanik, DoubloonSeven, Jilladilla, Frostgiant, Crazyabe, Iridium
Wait: (2) Blood_Librarian, FallacyofUrist
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Re: Arks Race - Consortium Ark (Jump 0, Production)
« Reply #104 on: July 15, 2018, 08:43:03 pm »

I really don't understand this though. I mean, investing a design into something should create an improvement. A low role should just mean little improvement or dangerous flaws. This seems to have been a step backwards.

At first I assumed that it was just bad because of the flaw, and that fixing it would put it up to a nominal improvement over base tech. Instead, it seems is was bad *and* flawed.

Do things only get better in this game when you roll above average? That seems like it would push normal dice bias to an extreme.
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