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Author Topic: Vampire elf swordsman doesn't seem to be feeding on my dwarves  (Read 3099 times)

Mort Stroodle

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When reading the combat logs of a glorious assault on a goblin dark tower, where my brave dwarves fought against hundreds of trolls and the Amber Demon Muved Ugeth Zutshosh, I noticed that my elf swordsman was referred to as a vampire elf swordsman. Interestingly, this fellow has been part of my fort for years, and I've never gotten a "drained of blood" notification. According to legends viewer, he has murdered before, but never in my fortress. Is it possible for a vampire to be chill, and never feed on your dwarves? He's got some character to him, being a vampire elf swordsman with a massive jagged scar across his face, and he has helped the war effort, so I'd prefer not to go lock him in a lever room somewhere or throw him into the volcano.
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Re: Vampire elf swordsman doesn't seem to be feeding on my dwarves
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2018, 02:03:48 am »

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Re: Vampire elf swordsman doesn't seem to be feeding on my dwarves
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2018, 02:43:45 am »

vampire
elf
swordsman
with a massive jagged scar across his face
MAXIMUM EDGE
Give him a leather coat and black gloves and a fucked up artifact sword.

Looked a little further into it, and oh man, you have no idea.

He's "appalled by merrymaking, parties, and other such worthless activites", "values decorum, dignity, and proper behavior", doesn't care about nature one way or another (I don't give a crap about your stupid trees MOM), has "extremely long" hair, and is a casual worshiper of "Asi the Unswerving Cobra", which is a SKELETON GOD that's associated with war, death, blight, and disease.

Somebody snuck their fucking OC into my fortress. If this guy kills the demon king in my next assault on the dark fortress, then that cinches it, Tarn Adams is secretly sneaking his fanfiction characters into the procedural generator.
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Saiko Kila

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Re: Vampire elf swordsman doesn't seem to be feeding on my dwarves
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2018, 03:44:54 am »

I've never had an elf vampire (they are very rare), so can't tell for sure, but normal vampires (dwarves) prey every 3 months, and due to the mechanics of preying, there's little chance for survival of the victim, even though vampires need only 4.2 liters of blood (many creatures have more, especially humans). Maybe elves are different. Like less... greedy?
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Re: Vampire elf swordsman doesn't seem to be feeding on my dwarves
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2018, 06:15:46 am »

I've never had an elf vampire (they are very rare), so can't tell for sure, but normal vampires (dwarves) prey every 3 months, and due to the mechanics of preying, there's little chance for survival of the victim, even though vampires need only 4.2 liters of blood (many creatures have more, especially humans). Maybe elves are different. Like less... greedy?

The average human body has about 5-6 litres of blood in it. If we assume that, despite the size difference, dwarves have about the same then quaffing 4.2 litres is 60-80% of their total. The most severe category of haemorrhage (class 4) is anything greater than 40%; the rate of survival for vampire victims is probably being a bit generous.

While elves need to drink, I'm wondering about goblin vampires. they have the no_drink tag, so do they -ever- need to feed?
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Re: Vampire elf swordsman doesn't seem to be feeding on my dwarves
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2018, 07:13:19 am »

I've never had an elf vampire (they are very rare), so can't tell for sure, but normal vampires (dwarves) prey every 3 months, and due to the mechanics of preying, there's little chance for survival of the victim, even though vampires need only 4.2 liters of blood (many creatures have more, especially humans). Maybe elves are different. Like less... greedy?

The average human body has about 5-6 litres of blood in it. If we assume that, despite the size difference, dwarves have about the same then quaffing 4.2 litres is 60-80% of their total. The most severe category of haemorrhage (class 4) is anything greater than 40%; the rate of survival for vampire victims is probably being a bit generous.

While elves need to drink, I'm wondering about goblin vampires. they have the no_drink tag, so do they -ever- need to feed?

In DF even one millilitre of blood is enough to survive, which is kind of funny. Vampires try to drink over what they need, and often take even 10 litres (which is possible only with really big creatures, or with cheats). This is why I'm surprised there are rumours of any survivors...

I don't have a goblin vampire right now, but I'd bet they would need to feed, since their blood thirst is completely separate from their normal (even though absent) thirst.
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Re: Vampire elf swordsman doesn't seem to be feeding on my dwarves
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2018, 12:57:11 pm »

Elves are snobs even when undead
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Re: Vampire elf swordsman doesn't seem to be feeding on my dwarves
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2018, 07:34:08 pm »

I gave Sushsath Lutesabres (the elf vampire in question) closer look, and he seems to be continually heading to watch military demonstrations, staying there for a few minutes, then returning to the dining hall or library to idle around, listen to poetry, and read books. As a result he spends a lot of time walking between places and lounging around. It seems whenever he gets called for actual training, the job gets immediately replaced with a new job to read a book. As a result he keep switching to a new book every time he gets called to train. Maybe he's just too lazy to prey on dwarves.
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Re: Vampire elf swordsman doesn't seem to be feeding on my dwarves
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2018, 06:50:38 pm »

I gave Sushsath Lutesabres (the elf vampire in question) closer look, and he seems to be continually heading to watch military demonstrations, staying there for a few minutes, then returning to the dining hall or library to idle around, listen to poetry, and read books. As a result he spends a lot of time walking between places and lounging around. It seems whenever he gets called for actual training, the job gets immediately replaced with a new job to read a book. As a result he keep switching to a new book every time he gets called to train. Maybe he's just too lazy to prey on dwarves.

Being an elf, maybe he only preys on the sweet, sweet sap of the beautiful trees that the elves are especially partial to in your area.

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Re: Vampire elf swordsman doesn't seem to be feeding on my dwarves
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2018, 03:45:12 pm »

Perhaps he finds dwarves blood too earthy.
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Re: Vampire elf swordsman doesn't seem to be feeding on my dwarves
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2018, 04:34:59 pm »

Second best elf ever maybe
If the only good elf is a dead elf...  I guess vampires *are* dead right?
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Re: Vampire elf swordsman doesn't seem to be feeding on my dwarves
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2018, 08:09:56 pm »

You know what this story lacks? But a love triangle of course. Have him compete with a buff werelizard for the affection of a perfectly generic girl and be very emotional about it

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Re: Vampire elf swordsman doesn't seem to be feeding on my dwarves
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2018, 08:32:08 pm »

Second best elf ever maybe
If the only good elf is a dead elf...  I guess vampires *are* dead right?
I was referring to Cacame Awemedinade

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Re: Vampire elf swordsman doesn't seem to be feeding on my dwarves
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2018, 11:00:48 am »

^obviously

Also, is there some refference I dont get in regards to the first replies?
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