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[High tyrol]

High tyrol, just out of curiosity... If you were to rank the difficulty of my original game what would it be?

Between Hard and punishing difficulty. However, Your players didn’t use their abilities without a lot of pestering and they didn’t cooperate. So the difficulty ended up being magnified by player incompetence.
When you

Spoiler: spoiler for original game (click to show/hide)

had a giant mammoth trample their territory.

You handled it well. It ended up being funny to read particularly when you expanded the pit trap. I think that might have been payback for the player who walzed around the wilderness unarmed and tried to hunt.
Most of your punishments for the players (except starvation) did not really set them back very much. The only thing that came close to killing anyone was directly caused by players repeatedly ignoring your warnings. However, You did tend to insult your players a lot and seemed to try to scare them a lot. It was fun to read.

[Supernerd]

I guess that's a fair analysis.
I can probably Elite difficulty by simply listening to warnings
I can probably handle Malicious if my allies ALSO listen to warnings
I can probably handle 1st Circle if my allies ALSO listen to me and co-ordinate their actions.
And I might be able to handle !!The Lake of!! if I metagame a bit more than I usually like to do.

I think maybe it was a mistake to add so many tiers of difficulty. More importantly though, when is the game starting?

Also, I went ahead and alphabetized the trait list for you.

Spoiler: Natural Abilities (All members of your species have these by default) (click to show/hide)

Catlike Reflexes:
Desert-dewlling:
Forager:
Magical:
Psionic:
Researcher:

Spoiler: Character Abilities (click to show/hide)

Alchemist:
Also Slightly Evil:
Boss: Immune to instant kill effects.
Calm:
Catperson:
Causes Fear: Witnessing this character causes creatures to flee. This ability also grants immunity to fear and resistance to Terror. Does not negatively affect allies.Riding this character gives the rider the same fear and terror protection.
Cold Lover: Cold related status, weather, and tile effects are less harmful to the Cold Lover. The Cold Lover also has reduced food consumption in certain unrevealed conditions.
Cook:
Durable: Increases Defense and HP, gives resistance or nullifies some low threat damage sources.     
Evil:
Excitable: May choose to increase either your Labor, or Movement Limit by 1.  It also reduces  Focus. This makes it harder to use magic in stressful situations or unfamiliar territory. 
Fast: Increases movement range by 1.
Fertile: May spend a turn with another creature of the same species to create eggs. This consumes both characters turns and cannot be used several turns in a row.
Free Research: Research is a free action for this unit, and does not need to relate to the task they are performing. Attempting to do an action you cannot do grants 1 free research point.
Fully Cybernetic:
Genius:
Guardian:
Hunter:
Large:
Living Weapon:
"Magic":Increases Science when researching Magical Spells, Tech, and Theory.
Manakete:
Pathfinder: Decreased penalties for unfamiliar territory. May guide another player to reduce their penalties in an area the possessor has visited at least once.
Pathfinder:
Petite:
Revolutionary:
Scavenger:
Shamanistic:
Smart:
Stealthy
Strong: Increases Damage and carrying capacity.
Strong Opinions: This characters opinions cannot forcibly be altered, and has 100% loyalty to a specific player stated in the character list.
Smart: May obtain information about objects and locations by investigating them as an action. Also, the Deep Thinking ability will not prevent threat detection for this character, and can be used in collaboration efforts.
Sky Jump: Negates most falling damage. allow the player to overcome some obstacles which reduce movement speed without slowing down.
Very Large:
Youthful: Makes interaction with NPCS that are not children or old easier. Also increases damage and carrying capacity slightly.

[High tyrol]

I guess that's a fair analysis.
I can probably Elite difficulty by simply listening to warnings
I can probably handle Malicious if my allies ALSO listen to warnings
I can probably handle 1st Circle if my allies ALSO listen to me and co-ordinate their actions.
And I might be able to handle !!The Lake of!! if I metagame a bit more than I usually like to do.


I think maybe it was a mistake to add so many tiers of difficulty. More importantly though, when is the game starting?

Thank you for this you saved me a bit of time here. I think I agree with you about the difficulty. I think I will eliminate The top two diffuculties and do a re-vote for difficulty. I will close the vote when I start the game. My original plan was to already have the game start several days ago, but I was having problems finishing the abilities list. So It think I should release it  tomorrow.

[Zazmio]

Most of us will vote for !!FUN!! again, I'm sure.  This is the Bay12 forum, after all.

[Supernerd]

I might recommend starting at a default difficulty level that conveniently doesn't have a label beyond "Default", and letting people vote to increase it at any time with no upper limit on how hard it can be. This way people will tend towards the difficulty they can handle without being enthralled by an "ooh shiny this one is called !!FUN!!" option.

[Supernerd]

I can see the first post being updated with new abilities. I think I went a bit overboard, because the stat increases on my abilities are so high that, if a character had those stats in my game, they could hunt a Yider Alone with no weapons and reasonably expect to WIN. (Provided they had enough food stockpiled already)

Edit:

Spoiler: Pre-game character analysis of Berard (click to show/hide)

I decided to envision my characters stats now that the ability descriptions are up...

Alpha Caste: 20 Health, 3 Attack, 2 Defense, 2 Move, 5 Science, 3 Labor, 8 Capacity, 3 Equipment.
Catlike Reflexes: 1 Defense
Large: 1 Defense, 1 Capacity, 1 Labor, 1 Strength, ? Health
Very Large: 2 Defense, 2 Capacity*, 2 Labor, 2 Strength, 1 Equipment*, 1 Move
Guardian: 2 Defense
Strong: + Damage, + Capacity (Amounts not provided)
Durable: + Defense, + HP (Amounts not provided)

*I noticed that the Very Large ability says it increases Equipment by 2 and Equipment by 1. I think it was supposed to increase labor by 2 instead of Equipment by 2, and will assume this is so unless told otherwise.

So this means that my character would have...

20 Health + three unspecified bonuses
3 Attack + One unspecified "Damage" bonus. 'Damage' may be different from Attack?
3 Strength (Is this a new stat or is it the same as attack? It is not listed on the stat list. If strength means attack, then the amount of attack is 6.)
8 Defense + one unspecified bonus
3 Move
5 Science
6 Labor
11 Capacity + One unspecified bonus
4 Equipment

So this monstrosity known as Berard takes 8 (Not even counting Durable) less damage from all sources and has an additional effect that can gives resistance to or nullifies certain other damaging effects. What kind of horrors will we be up against in this game?

[Screech9791]

So this monstrosity known as Berard takes 8 (Not even counting Durable) less damage from all sources and has an additional effect that can gives resistance to or nullifies certain other damaging effects. What kind of horrors will we be up against in this game?

!!FUN!!

[High tyrol]

GridLand Survival 3: Year 1, Turn 1(Spring)

A long time ago,
on a planet far away,
your ancestors lived and died.
Until...
...
A black orb appeared in the sky and blotted out the sun.
The Sprites and plants died without the suns light, only the demons remained.
The people could not survive without the sun or the sprites.
But,
...
The People were rescued by deer in metal birds
that grabbed The People and swept them into the sky.
...
Inside there were vast gardens, It was always twilight, and the stars were always to the east.
You were all born in these gardens. Gardens abounding with strange spirits.
Your parents died there.Now, you are leaving this garden.
...
The deer have dropped you into a valley.
They placed you into an orb
and you fell from the sky.
...
This place has a sun.
At night you can see that it has 4 moons.
Fortunately sprites abound here.
As you arose from the ball,
even those without the sight can see some of the sprites.
It is obvius this land will be bountiful, but dangerous.
...
There are red flowers around the pod and the grass is more vibrant than you have ever seen.
There are gigantic trees to the west and a massive cliff to the north.
The cliffs are grey with red and brown splotches.
To east are bushes, sandy soil, and balls of throns which blow in the wind.
To the south is a rushing river, with many rocks.
You worry that it might dash you to pieces if you tried to cross it.
...
...
...
You have found a home.


Remember your abilities and that Food is important.
In this world spirits and sprites have a major impact of the success of your actions. If you want to know how they effect your efforts you need to observe. You also will need to research certain things about spirits and sprites to learn the mechanics for how they work.

Please point out any mistakes I make, I am unused to this format of writing.

Spoiler: Places (click to show/hide)

E5: Eerily familiar Cliffs
F5: Eerily familiar Cliffs
G5: Eerily familiar Cliffs. Large stones. Colored stones(4 colors).
E6: Large forest.A particluarly Large tree.
F6:Lush Open area. Giant grey Orb, red flowers, about eight types of grass.
G6:Dry bushy area. at least 4 types of bushes. sand. dirt.  plants-pushed-by-wind. Thorns.
E7:Eerily familiar river. River stones. Trees. plants. grass.
F7:Eerily familiar river. Calmer water. Some stones. some plants.
G7:Eerily familiar river. Rapids. A bend in the river. sandbanks.

Spoiler: Character List (click to show/hide)

Star(TricMagic): Female Alpha. Manakete, Excitable, Smart, Youthful, Petite. 20HP. F6
Jaynie Morgan(0cra_tr0per):Female Alpha. Cold lover, Catperson, Strong, Calm, Scavenger. 20HP. F6
Bernard(Supernerd): Male Alpha.  Large, Very Large, Guardian, Strong, Durable. 35HP. F6
Dr. Diablito(Zazmio): Male Alpha. Evil, Genius, Stealthy, Fast, Cook. 20HP. F6
Texcoco(Maximum Spin): Male Alpha. Alchemist, Also Slightly Evil, Shamanistic, Hunter, Revolutionary. 20HP. F6
Caelum(dgr11897): Male/Cybernetic Alpha. Skyjump, Pathfinder, Fully cybernetic, living weapon, Fast. 50HP. F6

Spoiler: Communal Inventory (click to show/hide)

72 Mystery Food: A sticky grey substance. You aren't sure what it is, but its safe for your species to eat. It is in no way tasty.

Total Food Consumption per turn=8.5
8 turns until starvation.

I have attached a few elements of advice from the original that are still applicable to this game.

I'll start with an explanation of how to determine your characters abilities. If you open the character list you will see your characters name and attributes. You will need to also look at the first post to see what those attributes actually do. The Red part of the character list indicates a characters Caste. The black ones are Abilties and the Blue information is temporary info, Including the tile that the character is currently on. At the very least you should memorize the effects of your own characters abilities.

There are few actions that can be taken without research or abilities. These include attempting to forage on a tile, hunting, and researching. If you attempt to do something you cannot do, you will be notified next turn. This will generally waste your turn, but if you take note of the "Free Research" ability that is granted by the "Alpha" class, you will see that it will not be a total waste. Some Natural Abilties and Character Abilities include actions that you can perform.

Your first priority should be to get a stable income of food so that you don't starve. After that, you should figure out what you will want to do in order to ensure your species long term survival and prosperity. Remember that you will require some degree of teamwork for this.

You will also want to keep an eye out for new game rules. These will generally be mentioned in update posts. For example, check out the new Inventory rule section on the first post.

Lastly if you catch the GM making a mistake, please let me know. I suspect I'll forget little details here and there. Don't be afraid to ask for clarification on rules. If I make a rule in an update post and do not put it on the first post, be sure to tell me.

Feel free to give suggestions, or point out mistakes that I make.

[High tyrol]

I can see the first post being updated with new abilities. I think I went a bit overboard, because the stat increases on my abilities are so high that, if a character had those stats in my game, they could hunt a Yider Alone with no weapons and reasonably expect to WIN. (Provided they had enough food stockpiled already)

Edit:

Spoiler: Pre-game character analysis of Berard (click to show/hide)

I decided to envision my characters stats now that the ability descriptions are up...

Alpha Caste: 20 Health, 3 Attack, 2 Defense, 2 Move, 5 Science, 3 Labor, 8 Capacity, 3 Equipment.
Catlike Reflexes: 1 Defense
Large: 1 Defense, 1 Capacity, 1 Labor, 1 Strength, ? Health
Very Large: 2 Defense, 2 Capacity*, 2 Labor, 2 Strength, 1 Equipment*, 1 Move
Guardian: 2 Defense
Strong: + Damage, + Capacity (Amounts not provided)
Durable: + Defense, + HP (Amounts not provided)

*I noticed that the Very Large ability says it increases Equipment by 2 and Equipment by 1. I think it was supposed to increase labor by 2 instead of Equipment by 2, and will assume this is so unless told otherwise.

So this means that my character would have...

20 Health + three unspecified bonuses
3 Attack + One unspecified "Damage" bonus. 'Damage' may be different from Attack?
3 Strength (Is this a new stat or is it the same as attack? It is not listed on the stat list. If strength means attack, then the amount of attack is 6.)
8 Defense + one unspecified bonus
3 Move
5 Science
6 Labor
11 Capacity + One unspecified bonus
4 Equipment

So this monstrosity known as Berard takes 8 (Not even counting Durable) less damage from all sources and has an additional effect that can gives resistance to or nullifies certain other damaging effects. What kind of horrors will we be up against in this game?

Strength is identical to attack I just was sloppy when writting the abilities. Damage is not attack. However, it can situationaly increase attack.
Also, Horrors will come

[Supernerd]

Remember everyone, the Alpha Caste gives the "Free Research" ability that lets us research in addition to any other actions we are taking at no penalty. I FORBID ANYONE TO NEGLECT THIS! YOU MUST RESEARCH EVERY TURN IF YOU HAVE THIS ABILITY

With that out of the way...

Berard
Berard forages for food at G6
Free Research: Berard researches Foraging Technique

(Relevant abilities: Forager, Researcher, Free Research, Large, Very Large)

Spoiler: Nitpicks (click to show/hide)

- Cybernetic is not in the caste list, but is shown as a caste for Caelum
- Berard and Dr. Diabilito have "Character Ability 1" in the character list spoiler, both in the first post and the first turn.
- The description for cook is "Cook:Capable of combining edible items together to make food which can increase resistances to some eviromental hazards May also be able to process some items with". It looks like more text should be after the word "with".
- Should "Very Large" give 3 equipment or 2 capacity and 1 equipment? You should review the wording of it.

(Let me know if I should format my action posts differently)

[Maximum Spin]

Tex hunts at E6 while researching alchemical processes.

[Zazmio]

Dr. Diablito sees the very large Berard, follows him while chatting telepathically.
#// "Greetings!  Allow me to introduce myself!  I am Dr. Diablito!  With your brawn and my brains, we could do great things!"

Dr. Diablito:  follows Berard to G6 and forages for food at G6.
Research:  Help with Foraging Technique

[Screech9791]

(I'm claiming the Blue w/ Cyan Glow text color for my character's speech, and I'm also the only person whose character has a last name.

Also holy shit what is that map quality)

Jaynie Morgan
Main action: Forage F6 (Not scavenging because we should stabilize food gain first because we don't want or need Player Stupidity Syndrome to kill this game.)
Free research: Farming

[High tyrol]

Also holy shit what is that map quality)

The map quality is: as drawn by my youngest brother. (Age is under 8 and above 4. Exact age is confidential.)
Although I pasted in some relevent plants.

[Supernerd]

I think the map has a certain charm to it actually. I'll admit that the cliffs are a bit hard to interpret as being cliffs though, but we have a description spoiler to help with that.

I am guessing that we should only have one actual "Action Post" in each turn, but should we have a limit for non-action posts (Which would be mostly planning etc)