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Author Topic: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread - Early Summer 1916, Production Phase  (Read 54484 times)

Chiefwaffles

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Re: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread
« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2018, 02:05:55 am »

Not a huge fan of that winged shield. What about this?

Still not potentially great, but it's a possibility. Like before, 100% open for feedback.

EDIT: Changed the colors inside the wings to be more "silver" and less "pink", as per our national colors.
Though I personally think the shield is a bit bland and could use something more. I mean, it's fine as a shield, but its solid color leaves something to be desired. Any thoughts?
« Last Edit: June 02, 2018, 02:18:52 am by Chiefwaffles »
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You should really look to the wilderness for your stealth ideas, it has been doing it much longer than you have after all. Take squids for example, that ink trick works pretty well, and in water too! So you just sneak into the dam upsteam, dump several megatons of distressed squid into it, then break the dam. Boom, you suddenly have enough water-proof stealth for a whole city!

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Re: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread
« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2018, 03:08:16 am »

Remember the requirement that it be paintable by amateurs, and recognisable from afar. Painting detailed insignias inside the shield may be excessive.

I'd make the red slightly brighter, and maybe the dark grey slightly darker, for greater contrast. The wings are a little finicky, too.

Actually, there was a thing Nafuna did in PJ's AR- they made two (or possibly more, I can't remember) flags for their flag contest- a 'ceremonial' one with bells and whistles, and one that could actually be painted onto stuff easily. If you feel like doing something fancier, you could do that- make a simple version for everyday use, and a richly detailed one for showing off on important occasions.
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Re: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread
« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2018, 09:03:31 am »

I mean, I thought about that, and it’s not that hard. Cross, shield, and wings. Anyone could draw it. Dont think the Frey should be darker, but I’ll toy with the colors.
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You should really look to the wilderness for your stealth ideas, it has been doing it much longer than you have after all. Take squids for example, that ink trick works pretty well, and in water too! So you just sneak into the dam upsteam, dump several megatons of distressed squid into it, then break the dam. Boom, you suddenly have enough water-proof stealth for a whole city!

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Re: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread
« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2018, 09:21:26 am »

Yeah, no, as it stands it's fine- like I said, the wings are a bit finicky, but it doesn't matter if they get simplified in practice. But adding something to the shield like you suggested might put it over the top, sort of thing.
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Re: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread
« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2018, 09:56:40 am »

Two questions to the GM:
1.) Can we change the pilot training academy place-thing, or is that just set in stone like the dice infrastructure?
2.) How limited to the time period will we be with designs? I of course expect reasonable difficulty for improving our aircraft, but how "soft-capped" are we by the historical technological development of aircraft at the current moment in history?

1) No, you can't change that. It was a leftover from when I hadn't implemented the experience system for squadrons. I may upgrade it as the game progresses to start new squadrons at a higher experience level, but such changes will apply to both sides equally.

2) This is quite subjective, but I would say "not very limited". The real limits are your side's prior experience in designs and physical plausibility. I expect the rate of advancement to be slightly faster than real air forces of the period, balanced out by the fact that you're starting behind them.

If there are no further changes, I will roll the JARC and Ailerons revisions later.
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Re: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread
« Reply #50 on: June 02, 2018, 01:10:15 pm »

Kolechia Revision Phase, Early Summer 1915:

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Just A Regular Camera:
We went down to the store and bought some cameras. Glass plate ones, not those newfangled film ones, cos they're a bit toss. We did make sure to get some sturdy cameras that can withstand getting shook around some.
Our scouts can use these to take photographs from the air, which can be pieced together on the ground to form a comprehensive map of enemy trenches.

Efficacy: 3

After searching every camera store in the city, most of the engineers return empty handed. Most storeowners are surprised when the engineers ask for plate, not film cameras, and all laugh when the engineers explain that they want to take photos of things more than a kilometre away. The only exception is the proprietor of a nature photography store, who is happy to secure a lucrative procurement contract for his overly specialised cameras.

Lvoc Camera: A glass plate medium camera with a 150mm focal length, coincidentally about the size and shape of a 150mm artillery shell. Requires manual changing of the plate for each photograph taken and is moderately durable. Cost 1

Quote from:  Ailerons
Rather than try to bend the entire wing, our new aileron system allows the pilot control over a hinged control surface at the trailing edge of the plane. This provides a tremendously improved roll control. As the system is very similar to existing rudder and elevator control, we expect no great trouble.

Efficacy: 5

Kolechian engineers apply the principles of hinged control surfaces to the tips of plane wings. Feather-1914 planes modified in this manner exhibit faster rolling capability and greater control, improving the maneuverability of the plane. A combination of elevator and aileron controls enables a brave pilot to pull off the first barrel roll in Kolechian skies, while a series of angry letters from the Wright Company in America are ignored.

You may upgrade existing Feather-1914 planes at a cost of 1 PP per squadron, while new squadrons will have ailerons at no added cost.



It is now the Production & Deployment Phase, Early Summer 1915. You have 9 production points remaining.

Please agree on a single design to submit as your air force’s insignia.


Spoiler: Projects (click to show/hide)

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Spoiler: Squadrons (click to show/hide)

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Re: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread
« Reply #51 on: June 02, 2018, 01:39:02 pm »

Alright. I feel like I'm done with the logos, and have an included name: the Kolechian Peoples' Air Force.

Here's the fancy one. With silver stars and a bit of writing on it! How sophisticated!
Fancy Optional Insignia
(for more official things where we have more time/resources to have a non-toddler paint it)

(K PAF stands for Kolechian Peoples' AirForce)

And the actual one to be painted on most planes, the non-fancy one.
Regular Insignia



Here's a vote box. With formatting. Please do not mess up the formatting.
Quote from: Air Force Insignia
Kolechian Peoples' AirForce (1): Chiefwaffles
Nukes' Winged Shield (0):
Nukes' Winged Shield + "K" (0):
« Last Edit: June 02, 2018, 10:15:00 pm by Chiefwaffles »
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You should really look to the wilderness for your stealth ideas, it has been doing it much longer than you have after all. Take squids for example, that ink trick works pretty well, and in water too! So you just sneak into the dam upsteam, dump several megatons of distressed squid into it, then break the dam. Boom, you suddenly have enough water-proof stealth for a whole city!

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Re: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread
« Reply #52 on: June 02, 2018, 01:43:18 pm »

Quote from: Production
Squadron 1
    - Maintenance : 1
    - Upgrade Ailerons : 1
    - Equip Camera : 1

Squadron 2
    - Maintenance : 1
    - Upgrade Ailerons : 1
    - Equip Camera : 1

Squadron 3
    - Equip Feather-1914 Scout Plane: 3

Quote from: Assignments
Squadron 1 | Feather-1914 Scout Plane | Lvoc Camera | Aerial Reconnaissance | Neophyte | No Aces | Maintenance Cost 1
Currently assigned to observe enemy frontline along the Jawanin-Derboise Road

Squadron 2 | Feather-1914 Scout Plane | Lvoc Camera | Aerial Reconnaissance | Neophyte | No Aces | Maintenance Cost 1
Currently assigned to observe enemy frontline along the Dreidansk-Demisonne Road

Squadron 3 | Feather-1914 Scout Plane | No equipment | Aerial Reconnaissance | Neophyte | No Aces | Maintenance Cost 1
Perform Coastal patrol and reconnaissance flights
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Re: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread
« Reply #53 on: June 02, 2018, 01:49:52 pm »

Jolly good.

Quote from: Air Force Insignia
Kolechian Peoples' AirForce (2): Chiefwaffles, NUKE9.13
Nukes' Winged Shield (0):
Nukes' Winged Shield + "K" (0):

Quote from: Production/Deployment
ebbor's plan: (1) NUKE9.13
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Re: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread
« Reply #54 on: June 02, 2018, 01:50:04 pm »

I'd rather have more cameras and leave us short one aileron upgrade. That might be more useful on the coast, and I'd rather have better recon for the southern logistics than the northern trenches. I propose leaving Squadron 1 without the ailerons upgrade.

Edit: No, the plane upgrades should help more than taking pictures of oncoming ships.

Quote from: Production Plan B
Squadron 1
    - Maintenance : 1
    - Equip Camera : 1

Squadron 2
    - Maintenance : 1
    - Upgrade Ailerons : 1
    - Equip Camera : 1

Squadron 3
    - Equip Feather-1914 Scout Plane: 3
    - Equip Camera : 1

Quote from: Assignments Plan B
Squadron 1 | Feather-1914 Scout Plane | Lvoc Camera | Aerial Reconnaissance | Neophyte | No Aces | Maintenance Cost 1
Currently assigned to observe enemy frontline along the Jawanin-Derboise Road

Squadron 2 | Feather-1914 Scout Plane | Lvoc Camera | Aerial Reconnaissance | Neophyte | No Aces | Maintenance Cost 1
Currently assigned to observe enemy frontline along the Dreidansk-Demisonne Road

Squadron 3 | Feather-1914 Scout Plane | Lvoc Camera | Aerial Reconnaissance | Neophyte | No Aces | Maintenance Cost 1
Perform Coastal patrol and reconnaissance flights

Quote from: Air Force Insignia
Kolechian Peoples' AirForce (3): Chiefwaffles, NUKE9.13, Nirur
Nukes' Winged Shield (0):
Nukes' Winged Shield + "K" (0):

Quote from: Production/Deployment
ebbor's plan: (2) NUKE9.13, Nirur
« Last Edit: June 02, 2018, 02:03:53 pm by Nirur Torir »
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Re: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread
« Reply #55 on: June 02, 2018, 02:06:11 pm »

Quote from: Air Force Insignia
Kolechian Peoples' AirForce (4): Chiefwaffles, NUKE9.13, Nirur, Kashyyk
Nukes' Winged Shield (0):
Nukes' Winged Shield + "K" (0):

Quote from: Production/Deployment
ebbor's plan: (3) NUKE9.13, Nirur, Kashyyk
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Re: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread
« Reply #56 on: June 02, 2018, 02:09:23 pm »


Quote from: Air Force Insignia
Kolechian Peoples' AirForce (4): Chiefwaffles, NUKE9.13, Nirur, Kashyyk
Nukes' Winged Shield (0):
Nukes' Winged Shield + "K" (0):

Quote from: Production/Deployment
ebbor's plan: (4) NUKE9.13, Nirur, Kashyyk, Rockeater
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Damnit people, this is why I said to keep the truce. Because now everyone's ganging up on the cats.
Also, don't forget to contact your local Eldritch Being(s), so that they can help with our mission to destroy the universe.

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Re: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread
« Reply #57 on: June 02, 2018, 02:27:57 pm »

I should make a quick note here that the navy has not yet requested you to send forces to the southern islands front. You may petition them to allow a squadron stationed there now, or you may choose to wait until the navy sees a need for the air force on that front.
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Re: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread
« Reply #58 on: June 02, 2018, 02:32:25 pm »

I was hoping we'd call ourselves the Kolechian Republic Air Patrol.
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Re: Knights of the Skies: Kolechia Thread
« Reply #59 on: June 02, 2018, 02:33:56 pm »

I was hoping we'd call ourselves the Kolechian Republic Air Patrol.
We are optimistic
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Damnit people, this is why I said to keep the truce. Because now everyone's ganging up on the cats.
Also, don't forget to contact your local Eldritch Being(s), so that they can help with our mission to destroy the universe.
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