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[Doomblade187]

The goal of the alloy design is to generate the basic background knowledge for an all-aluminum fighter. Because this is a big step, I wanted to gather together the metallurgical knowledge first, and then save the design difficulty for the implementation of flaps, a bigger engine, and a tail control.

A further proposal:

KPAF Proposal 4: Ground Warfare Technology Cooperation

The war on the ground has gone back and forth, and is the subject of much contention among our command staff. To ease friction between factions, the KPAF pledges to always deploy reconnaissance planes to the central and northern theatres. In addition, at a later date, the KPAF will develop a long-range, high altitude reconnaissance plane. At this time, we request the army's assistance with a shared development fund. Finally, many aspects of the air war are relevant to the land war. In exchange for continual passing of developments useful to the Army and Navy, the KPAF requests further insight into the requisition process and access to the other faction's weapon designers for certain smaller projects. This should speed up overall development, and reduce redundant work.

KPAF Proposal 1 - Balloon Transfer: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblade
KPAF Proposal 2 - Uniform Standards: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblads
KPAF Proposal 3 - Naval Development: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblade
KPAF Proposal 4 - Recon Planes and Tech Sharing: (1) Doomblade

New Projects:
A Shinier New World: (2) Doomblade, NUKE9.13

Project Progress:
2 dice to Levib: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblade

[10ebbor10]

KPAF Proposal 1 - Balloon Transfer: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblade
KPAF Proposal 2 - Uniform Standards: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblads
KPAF Proposal 3 - Naval Development: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblade
KPAF Proposal 4 - Recon Planes and Tech Sharing: (0) Doomblade
        - Against : 10ebbor10

I dislike the idea of making permanent commitments of what we're going to do.

[Kashyyk]

I'm loathe to hand-off KPAF assets to the Navy and Army, but balloons will be obsolete the moment we get radio-equipped recon planes, so I guess I can deal with it.

Speaking of, I would like to use our bonus to get radios in the air, even if they're only one-way. Our culture bonus is cooperation, so the more we can build on that, the better.

[Cnidaros]

So, I was going to suggest handing over our balloons to the army/navy, so I'm glad to see people have already thought of it. How do we format these conversations?

This format is fine! I'll take two votes as the threshold to pass a proposal along to the Army/Navy, and voting against is also allowed. Nothing will be formalised until the end of this whole turn, where there'll be another yes/no vote on whether to accept the finalised proposals.

You might also want to get to voting on the designs, so this turn won't drag on too much.

[Kashyyk]

Military Communique
KPAF Proposal 1 - Balloon Transfer: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblade
KPAF Proposal 2 - Uniform Standards: (3) NUKE9.13, Doomblade, Kashyyk
KPAF Proposal 3 - Naval Development: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblade
KPAF Proposal 4 - Recon Planes and Tech Sharing: (0) Doomblade
        - Against : 10ebbor10

Design Votes (5 Dice)
2 Dice to Levib (-4PP) : (1) NUKE9.13, Kashyyk
A Shiny New World (3 dice) : Doomblade, NUKE9.13

Save 2 dice : (1) Doomblade

[NUKE9.13]

Doomblade is also voting for 2 dice to Levib, Kashyyk.

[Kashyyk]

Military Communique
KPAF Proposal 1 - Balloon Transfer: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblade
KPAF Proposal 2 - Uniform Standards: (3) NUKE9.13, Doomblade, Kashyyk
KPAF Proposal 3 - Naval Development: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblade
KPAF Proposal 4 - Recon Planes and Tech Sharing: (0) Doomblade
        - Against : 10ebbor10

Design Votes (5 Dice)
2 Dice to Levib (-4PP) : (3) NUKE9.13, Kashyyk, Doomblade
A Shiny New World (3 dice) : (2) Doomblade, NUKE9.13

So he is. I missed it in the storm of posts.

[10ebbor10]

I'm not sure I like the aluminum idea. Trying to create a second world war alloy in 1945 is something that seems like it would explode in our face.

It may be better to try and go for duralumin, which was invented in 1903.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duralumin

[NUKE9.13]

I didn't interpret the design as going straight for exactly 7075, but rather an attempt to create an effective aluminium alloy, exact composition unspecified. It might be best to make that even more explicit, lest Cnidaros interprets it unfavourably.

[Doomblade187]

I didn't interpret the design as going straight for exactly 7075, but rather an attempt to create an effective aluminium alloy, exact composition unspecified. It might be best to make that even more explicit, lest Cnidaros interprets it unfavourably.

Hmm. My explici goal is to make an *early* version of 7075.  That said, that does sound a bit overly hard. I will adjust.

Edit: updeated, please feedback.

[NUKE9.13]

Oh, the votebox links to the wrong post. Fixed that.

Military Communique
KPAF Proposal 1 - Balloon Transfer: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblade
KPAF Proposal 2 - Uniform Standards: (3) NUKE9.13, Doomblade, Kashyyk
KPAF Proposal 3 - Naval Development: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblade
KPAF Proposal 4 - Recon Planes and Tech Sharing: (0) Doomblade
        - Against : 10ebbor10

Design Votes (5 Dice)
2 Dice to Levib (-4PP) : (3) NUKE9.13, Kashyyk, Doomblade
A Shinier New World (3 dice) : (2) Doomblade, NUKE9.13

[10ebbor10]

Military Communique
KPAF Proposal 1 - Balloon Transfer: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblade
KPAF Proposal 2 - Uniform Standards: (3) NUKE9.13, Doomblade, Kashyyk
KPAF Proposal 3 - Naval Development: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblade
KPAF Proposal 4 - Recon Planes and Tech Sharing: (0) Doomblade
        - Against : 10ebbor10

Design Votes (5 Dice)
2 Dice to Levib (-4PP) : (3) NUKE9.13, Kashyyk, Doomblade
A Shinier New World (3 dice) : (2) Doomblade, NUKE9.13

Requisition :
A heavier machine gun, with a firerate of 150 RPM: (1) 10ebbor10
Hand over our Reflector sight and incendiary bullets to the navy/army if they're interested: (1) 10ebbor10

[Kashyyk]

Military Communique
KPAF Proposal 1 - Balloon Transfer: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblade
KPAF Proposal 2 - Uniform Standards: (3) NUKE9.13, Doomblade, Kashyyk
KPAF Proposal 3 - Naval Development: (2) NUKE9.13, Doomblade
KPAF Proposal 4 - Recon Planes and Tech Sharing: (0) Doomblade
        - Against : 10ebbor10

Design Votes (5 Dice)
2 Dice to Levib (-4PP) : (3) NUKE9.13, Kashyyk, Doomblade
A Shinier New World (3 dice) : (2) Doomblade, NUKE9.13

Requisition :
A heavier machine gun, with a firerate of 150 RPM: (2) 10ebbor10, Kashyyk
Hand over our Reflector sight and incendiary bullets to the navy/army if they're interested: (2) 10ebbor10, Kashyyk

[Khang36]

I have a question what do we need to get so we can mount more than one MG using synchronization gears?

[Kashyyk]

The Verusans have two separate sync gears for theirs. It may be worth upgrading to an electric sync gear which should allow us to fit multiple guns in the same system.

Or we could revise a separate sync gear and stick extra guns on all our feathers, but that doesn't feel worth it.