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Author Topic: is there a reason why DF need two type of stair ?  (Read 1104 times)

Hiul

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is there a reason why DF need two type of stair ?
« on: May 25, 2018, 11:01:28 am »

considering ramp can both work as up and down, why stair need to be separated between up and down ?
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scourge728

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Re: is there a reason why DF need two type of stair ?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2018, 11:12:46 am »

That is a good question, especially considering up/down stairs

Saiko Kila

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Re: is there a reason why DF need two type of stair ?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2018, 11:52:27 am »

Up-stairs can hold not only falling dwarves but also falling walls and stones (cave-ins). Up/down stairs also hold cave-in, but they breach the floor, so are not always feasible for any particular scenario.
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Re: is there a reason why DF need two type of stair ?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2018, 12:10:01 pm »

A ramp does not work alone as an up/down path. It needs that adjacent wall and the empty tile above it, or it is not a "useable" ramp. Also, ramps do not connect tile A with the tile directly above or below it; so it is a different type of connection.

A down-stair without an up-stair is just a hole in the ground. A ramp without an adjacent wall is just a hole in the ground. Both allow flying, falling, and jumping, but not walking or hauling.
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