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[TricMagic]

You need only look at our Advanced Magic Theory research to see as such.. Would really like to know how much it costs.

[helmacon]

Jotun Oligarchy

Just as the Jotun Oligarchy started to formulate a plan to deal with the Seagulls, it seemed that Mabel stepped in to assist them! The giants reacted to this more strongly than normal because of the many other gods who spent the majority of the FP generated by the Giants on other civilizations.

The Jotun Oligarchy decides not to even make it possible for the Seagulls to attack by working in the eastern part of their territory.

Spoiler: Doublecheck ERROR DETECTED (click to show/hide)

Food stockpile started at 56 food.
Consumed 27 food
1 food fed to snakes
Collected 41 food.
Food is currently 69
Food should be 69
Looks correct
But the tech "Temples" still shows as 6/? when it should at worst be showing 10/?

Spoiler: Action Post (click to show/hide)

Logistic Slot 1
7 workers using crude tools work on building a Giant Stone House at D4, replacing a Giant Primitive House. Leftover labor is to be used on whatever random things that workers do when they finish their work early.
Logistic Slot 2
1 bountiful gatherer (ate bloodberries) using a crude tool and the artifact "Bountiful Basket" and...
2 workers (ate bloodberries) using 2 crude tools and 2 slings...
Ranch at C3
Logistic Slot 3
4 workers continue research on Temples*
(Note: If temples would cost less than 14 research points and the only reason I do not know about this is because of a GM error, the excess workers eat bloodberries instead)
Logistic Slot 4
3 workers pray to Mabel
Logistic Slot 5
(Reserved for above mentioned alteration possibility)

Upkeep/Special
1 Food is fed to the Tame Cobras
4 Food is spent on a new worker

Spoiler: Possible FP Triggers (click to show/hide)

Nagas (Snakes): Ranching snakes
Amastay (Construction): New house!
Blarg (Swamps): No
Mabel (Demihumans): New worker after a few turns without one
Farsky (Titans): New worker after a few turns without one
Izzith (Magic): Artifact use? (This time it might not be enough)
Disci (Discipline): No
Keerim (Birds): No

dude... The only reason you generate me fp is because you build things. Everyone builds things. It's not like your going to stop building things if I don't support you. I gave you your mountain as a favor. quit acting like I owe you when you have done nothing to support me that you wouldn't have just done anyways. I don't owe you.

[Supernerd]

Mostly I'm just confused by your apparent lack of interest in construction. I thought you would have wanted to invest to get even more FP. A higher quality tile for collecting building material would be a percent based increase to what is already the largest source of construction in the world. Not only would it pay for itself in the long term, it would probably pay for itself even in the short term.

Unless another god destroyed it I guess?

[Atomic Chicken]

The Xekarni

Kezai is the earned name of our Colossus-slayer, who is set to take over as Chieftess of the tribe in Goruk's place.

The Xekarni celebrate their victory over the bear titan's horde, and speak of Goruk's chosen manner of demise with much praise. Their faith in Nagas increases drastically following the miraculous snake rain that was observed to turn the tide of the battle, and it is further augmented as a result of the great respect now commanded by the snake god's emissary.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Our injured spear warrior is healed using 3 reagents.

Kezai and 1 Naga spear warrior each mount a horse.

3 moderately snake-like workers (armed with 3 crude spears) forage for food at J4 using 3 crude tools.

1 moderately snake-like worker and 1 moderately snake-like spear warrior (armed with 2 crude spears) hunt at J4.

1 horse tamer researches Camouflage.

The giants reacted to this more strongly than normal because of the many other gods who spent the majority of the FP generated by the Giants on other civilizations.

How could the giants possibly be aware of how much FP the gods are spending on civilizations on the other side of the world which they haven't ever made contact with?

[Sarrak]

The giants reacted to this more strongly than normal because of the many other gods who spent the majority of the FP generated by the Giants on other civilizations.

How could the giants possibly be aware of how much FP the gods are spending on civilizations on the other side of the world which they haven't ever made contact with?

They just methodically count all the favors gods owe/are owed just as they count many other things.

That said, I did notice a thrend with gods, with some being chaotically helpful, others pragmatic and all others "I do what I want, mortals". Appeasing last ones is kinda pointless

[Maximum Spin]

That said, I did notice a thrend with gods, with some being chaotically helpful, others pragmatic and all others "I do what I want, mortals". Appeasing last ones is kinda pointless

chaotically helpful

Nagas perks up. " "

[Supernerd]

How could the giants possibly be aware of how much FP the gods are spending on civilizations on the other side of the world which they haven't ever made contact with?

There have been some incidents where gods actively encourage mortals to compete for their affection in exchange for some kind of reward. The 25FP artifact reward for building a temple "one of Amastay's people" is easily the best example of this.

I'm the best at building, so it still seems like a smart investment. Actually, now that I thought about what a 25FP artifact can actually do, I think it would be better in the long term if I expedite this by adding more workers to research.

[TricMagic]

Meanwhile, we made a tree that made books. Or almost did.
Was looking to make a tree that produced books on it's own in the same way as a Fruit-bearing tree.

We also have a grand construction total of zero due to trying to skip a few steps with spells. Still need Advanced Magic Theory, which looks to be a bronze age tech...

[DAPARROT]

Where should I start as a civilization?

the bottom left corner is a pretty good area, especially around C9

[TricMagic]

Ah, C-9, bountiful lakes, brilliant rainforests.. Mountains to your east and Mystical gemstones of every color to your south.

Mining would be a good trait, with so much stone, and you could probably make stone houses fairly easily.

That, and eventual magic, maybe Izzith could leave you a tome on stoneworking.

[Zazmio]

But the tech "Temples" still shows as 6/? when it should at worst be showing 10/?

Fixed.  The research was completed at 10 of 10.
I encourage everyone to be as diligent as Supernerd at checking for errors with their civs/gods.

Still need Advanced Magic Theory, which looks to be a bronze age tech...

Most likely bronze/iron age for you.  Most likely medieval era for everyone not magical...

GM, my question about building in two places/moving settlement is a 'NO'?

It is possible to move your settlement if a traumatic event happens at your settled tile.  I wouldn't recommend it, though.
It might be possible to research some kind of tech that allows you to move to a different tile.
Creating additional settlements is not possible with current technology, and most likely will not happen while we're still in the stone age.

Still can join?

Yes.

[TricMagic]

You know, this kind of says I'm going to be the first to enter the bronze age..

...What is bronze made of anyway..


Bronze is technically made of various metals..
Creating Ironwood Trees is possible. Doesn't help with actually making iron weapons, but wood with the properties of such could be made.

Advanced Magic would allow earth spells, which means metal and stone, along with earth/wood houses are in the future.

[Oblivion2007]

I don't get why people think destroying the Titangate was ME initializing hostility. You built it right on top of my most expensive investment after I had just finished making him knowing it would constantly spew out enemies. As soon as the first horde spawned they immediately attacked Bakhon and then ran over and destroyed a tile of mine. Saying 'Oops sorry it wasn't intentional that the big gate that constantly created hostile mobs attack you' doesn't quite cut it, especially when you specifically built it on the tile Bakhon was on.

[Supernerd]

Oh. Wow. That changes my action entirely! I didn't even read the tech description yet, but I already know it changes my action entirely.

[Detoxicated]

"Nagas tell your followers to read that book. Even if I gain from it, it is your people that gain more henceforth you gain as well.