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[Supernerd]

If you're handing out beneficial zaps, the Jorun Oligarchy could use some. Mabel hasn't really done anything for my civilization and now it sounds like maybe she is going to spend all the FP that she got from my civilization on someone else? (Though as I haven't noticed her actually saying anything about it in the thread, it seems more likely that TricMagic is wrong.)

At least Farsky was helpful though.

[TricMagic]

I just really want flight to work, and a little(or a lot) of Godly assistance doesn't hurt our chances of making it innate.

I'm pretty sure we do need a God's assistance to make it stick, and you being a god of Magic can work with Mabel next turn. She supplies most of the GP, and you put your domain to work with her domain.

Besides, if you really want to grant Magic assistance, you can grant a tile an affinity towards specific elemental magics for 5 MP later.


At the moment though, our very success with flight is likely to give you that MP back afterward, so it's more efficient.


There's also a Divine Project you could work on afterward. Create a World Seed, and we will tend to it.


....After this is said and done, We Cait Sith truly need to work on Prayer Festivals. We certainty have enough gods with us for it to be a great multiplier.


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And, no, she hasn't quite said anything, she just said to wait. It's just that she has three Civs to tend to. And she is likely working on a long game rather than a quick one.

Go hunt some of those magical mammoths already=


All Hail Izzith! Twiddler of Thumbs and Patron God of Magic! He is Come!

[Thank you!~]

[Maximum Spin]

I don't know why it became a zap! I just wanted snakes!

Nagas had 4 FP.  So I did the only thing I could think of that would create snakes for less than 5 FP.

Ah. You know you don't actually have a cost for animals listed in the OP?

[Oblivion2007]

Alright then, editing my post.

[Zazmio]

The god Izzith comes! All hail Izzith the God of Magic!

To announce his arrival Izzith Zaps one Cait Sith civilian at K1 to give it minor magical powers.

Welcome to the game.  Just to help you out a little, you might want to be more specific than "minor magical powers".  The Cait Sith are already inherently magical.

I find it unsettling that a hunt with nearly half a tribe doesn't get me any FP, but more peaceful gods can create tiles that create more FP every time a new pop is born in them.

I was interpreting your Slaughter aspect as "slaughtering foes in combat" or "violent bloody deaths."  Not so much as mundane slaughtering of animals that happens all the time.  Since your kind of slaughter tends to happen less often, you get more FP when it does happen.

I realize that some things are unbalanced in this game.  Nagas has only gotten 1 FP through his aspect if I remember right.  And then we have the Jotun problem.  All I can say is, let's try and accept the imbalance and go with it.

Ah. You know you don't actually have a cost for animals listed in the OP?

I did say that the rules for artifact and creature creation were the same as for land tiles, and special tiles are a minimum of 5 FP.  I should have explained it better though.  I was thinking it would be 5 FP minimum to create stuff, but maybe, for a few plain boring animals, we could make it just 3 FP.

[TricMagic]

That's been edited and talked over GM. I forsee a future of speciallists, even though I don't have anyone who can see the future. The far future that is.

[Oblivion2007]

Alright after some discussion with Supernerd how about this.

Izzith decides to Zap one of the Jorun Oligarchy's civilians giving them the magical ability to speed the growth of plants.

[Zazmio]

Rules modification!  Creatures and artifacts explained in more detail.

Creatures:
For 1 FP, you can make a single, nondangerous, boring creature such as a donkey.
For 3 FP, you can make one dangerous but boring creature such as a tiger, or a herd of boring nondangerous critters like horses or harmless snakes.
For 5 FP, you can make a magical and/or very dangerous monster/creature/foe of some kind.  Example:  An Ogre or a Troll.  Or a pack of dangerous but otherwise nonspecial critters.  Example:  A pack of dire wolves.  Or a herd of nondangerous but kind of special critters, such as a herd of talking swamp zebras.
More powerful monsters will cost multiples of 5 FP.  Example:  A Fire Giant or a Demon would probably cost 10 FP.  Beezlebub, Lord of the Flies, would probably cost around 20 FP.

Artifacts:
5 FP minimum.  For 5 FP, you get a basic magic object, such as a magic sword.  Excalibur would probably cost 15 or so FP.  Or non-weapon/armor artifacts that alter workers, tiles, or the weather in limited ways.  Tech level is currently limited to early medieval era (no gunpowder).

[Supernerd]

Just to clarify, how do creatures work differently than tiles with animals as a feature?

[Zazmio]

Just to clarify, how do creatures work differently than tiles with animals as a feature?

Independently made critters aren't tied to a tile and might stick around if the tile is changed.  Creatures part of a tile probably won't leave unless you spend extra.

[helmacon]

Rules modification!  Creatures and artifacts explained in more detail.

Creatures:
For 1 FP, you can make a single, nondangerous, boring creature such as a donkey.
For 3 FP, you can make one dangerous but boring creature such as a tiger, or a herd of boring nondangerous critters like horses or harmless snakes.
For 5 FP, you can make a magical and/or very dangerous monster/creature/foe of some kind.  Example:  An Ogre or a Troll.  Or a pack of dangerous but otherwise nonspecial critters.  Example:  A pack of dire wolves.  Or a herd of nondangerous but kind of special critters, such as a herd of talking swamp zebras.
More powerful monsters will cost multiples of 5 FP.  Example:  A Fire Giant or a Demon would probably cost 10 FP.  Beezlebub, Lord of the Flies, would probably cost around 20 FP.

Artifacts:
5 FP minimum.  For 5 FP, you get a basic magic object, such as a magic sword.  Excalibur would probably cost 15 or so FP.  Or non-weapon/armor artifacts that alter workers, tiles, or the weather in limited ways.  Tech level is currently limited to early medieval era (no gunpowder).

Do I get 2 fp back for the creation of my horses then? (If you don't want to do that, can I retroactively add some special trait to them?)

[The_Two_Eternities]

May I suggest easy domestication? My civilization will build stables (although I might have to research that seperately) once the horses are domesticated.

[Zazmio]

can I retroactively add some special trait to them?)

Sure, why not?

[Lenglon]

((@supernerd, actually I spent the FP i got from you on the orassans. Im spending the orassans on cait sith, and will be spending cait sith on you shortly afterwards. Don't  worry, youre on the list, just since Farsky is there to look out for you specifically I have other priorities for now, he's gotcha.))
((Also, frankly, the orassans needed the help pretty bad. I'm a bit tempted to dote on them simply cuz nobody else is prioritizing them.))
Mabel
Add special properties to the mangrove forest at K1, making those born there magical(or extra-magical if already magical) demihumans related to their personalities - in the case of the cait sith their demihumans should probably get the fey wings they long for so much.

[Zazmio]

Turn 10 - The Stone Age - Year of the Snake

Noteworthy tiles:

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B3:  +Boreal Demihuman Mangrove Forest+
C4:  +A grove of large trees that forever bear fruit+, orchard (6 of 10)
D5:  +Land of Massive Magical Mammoths+
H4:  +The Plains of Planes+
J5:  +Darkwolf Forest+

Artifacts:

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B4:  Contains artifact "Seed of Ice"

Creatures:

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E3:  Aggressive Dire Wolves
I4:  Herd of horses
G7:  Talking Farming Swamp Zebras

Divine Projects:

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"Demihuman Colossus" at H5, 4 of 15 FP added

Godly actions of note:
Blarg teaches agriculture to the zebras for 5 FP!
Malvol replaces the riverland at H3 with mountains for 3 FP.  The herd of horses flee to I4.
Izzith the God of Magic arrives!  He twiddles his divine thumbs!  Then he Zaps one of the Jotun Oligarchy's workers, turning him into a Greenthumb worker!
Mabel attempts to make a special tile but doesn't have enough FP.  (Adding extra-magical, demihuman, and flight as tile effects will cost 15 FP.)

The sun becomes eclipsed by a blood-red moon!  It's a portent of doom!  The slithering and rattling of snakes throughout the land becomes a sinister cacophony!  A PLAGUE OF SNAKES IS UPON US!!!  Nagas, god of Snakes, is delirious with joy!  He gets 5 FP!

Civilization actions:

Dipnoi Republic
3 Workers forage for Food in I7 and find 10 food.
1 Worker hunts in H6 with 1 Blowdart and find 3 food.
3 Workers research Mud Construction.
2 Workers craft Blowdarts.
Snakes overrun the Dipnoi settlement!  Weapons are mostly ineffective against a snake plague!  The only thing to do is hide!  2 workers are caught in the open and die of snakebite!  Nagas gets 6 FP!  Blarg gets 2 FP!

The Xekarni
2 workers research Battle Formations, and the tech is complete.
1 worker forages for reagents at I5 and finds 3 reagents.
2 workers research Poisonous Plants.
Goruk and 2 workers hunt at J6, armed with 3 crude spears, and find 7 food.
3 food is spent, 1 new worker is created.
Anacondas attack the settlement!  Goruk fights heroically and kills several, getting 3 more food in snakemeat!  However, 1 worker is eaten!  Nagas is delighted!  He gains 3 FP!  Malvol enjoyed watching Goruk slaughter snakes!  He gets 3 FP!

Cait Sith
2 Crude Spears are taken up by 2 workers to Fish at J1.  They find 6 food.
Another 2 are taken up by 2 workers to fish at K1.  They find 5 food.
4 workers forage at J1 and find 7 food.  Workers report less efficiency foraging with more than 3 workers here.
2 workers forages at K2 and finds 4 food.
Snakes drop down from the mangrove trees on the heads of Cait Sith citizens!  3 workers are injured!  Nagas gets 2 FP!  Blarg gets 1 FP!

The People
2 workers forage at H3 with crude tools and find 5 food.
2 workers forage at H4 with crude tools and find 4 food.
1 worker researches Domestication.
4 workers research Plains Survival.
3 food is used to create a worker.
The People really are getting tired of all these motherfuckin' snakes on their motherfuckin' plains!  1 worker dies of snakebite!  Nagas, god of motherfuckin' snakes, gets 3 FP!

Orassan Empire
3 workers forage B3 with all 3 crude tools, finding 8 food.
1 worker prays to Mabel.
1 worker researches Primitive Spearmaking.
1 worker researches Farming.
1 worker is injured in a snake attack!  Nagas gains 1 FP!

Jotun Oligarchy
3 workers forage at C4 and find 11 food.
3 workers forage at D3 and find 6 food.
4 workers work on constructing an Orchard at C4.
1 worker is morphed into a Greenthumb worker!
The giants shrug off any snakebites as a minor nuisance!  A magical mammoth, fleeing snakes in the south, runs into the settlement!  Farsky gets 3 FP!  Izzith gains 3 FP!  The mammoth is killed and butchered for 10 food!  Malvol gets 1 FP!

A giant python eats the entire Potato Pirates tribe!  Nagas, god of Snakes, is giddy as a schoolgirl!!!  He gets 8 FP!!!!! Farsky gets 5 FP!  Potato Pirates are no more!!

Civilization status:

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The Jotun Oligarchy
Tile: D4
Trait: Giants
Housing: 10 primitive
Resources:
9 workers
1 Greenthumb worker
20.5 food
Technologies:
Gigantic Structures, 1 of ? (incomplete)
Orchards, 8 of 8 (You can now construct orchards!  They must be constructed in plains-like terrain or in forests.  They cost no resources to make, but cost 10 labor to make.  This large project can be built over several turns.  Orchards can be harvested using the "harvest" command.  Usage:  "1 worker harvests A1 with 1 crude tool.")
Notes:
Greenthumb workers get a bonus to building farms and orchards, and to farming and harvesting.

Dipnoi Republic
Tile: I6
Trait: Mud
Housing: 10 primitive
Resources:
7 workers
7 food
3 reagents
3 blowdart
Technologies:
Mud Survival, 4 of 4 (Workers get a small bonus to all foraging in muddy tiles.  Workers get a small bonus to all combat in muddy tiles.  Muddy tiles are typically tiles like swamp or riverbanks, or land tiles where it has recently rained.)
Herbalism, 6 of 6 (Workers are now slightly better at foraging for food.  Workers can now forage for reagents.  Reagents have healing properties, and might have other uses.  3 reagents can be spent to heal 1 worker.)
Blowdarts, 6 of 6 (You can now create blowdarts!  They cost no resources, but need 1 labor, to make.  When used, you must specify how many blowdarts you are using.  Blowdarts add a small bonus in combat, and can be used for hunting.)
Snake Taming, 1 of ? (research stalled)
Domestication, 1 of ? (incomplete)
Mud Construction, 5 of 7 (incomplete)

The People
Tile: H4
Trait: Megaprojects
Housing: 10 primitive
Resources:
9 workers
13 Food
4 crude tools
Technologies:
Wonder Construction, 1 of ? (incomplete)
Simple Hunting Traps, 6 of 6 (This tech gives a small bonus when hunting or fishing, and a very small bonus when foraging for food.)
Tool Usage, 6 of 6 (You can now create crude tools for the cost of 1 labor.  Crude tools cost no resources.  Crude tools give a small bonus to foraging, farming, harvesting, and construction.  Usage: "1 worker forages at A1 with 1 crude tool".)
Domestication, 3 of ? (incomplete)
Plains Survival, 4 of 6 (incomplete)

The Xekarni
Tile: I5
Trait: Raider
Housing: 10 primitive
Resources:
7 workers
Goruk, legendary spear warrior
9 food
4 crude spears
3 reagents
Technologies:
Raiding, 1 of ? (incomplete)
Primitive Weapons, 5 of 5 (You can now create crude spears!  They cost no resources, but need 1 labor, to make.  When used, you must specify how many crude spears you are using.  They provide a small bonus to combat and allow hunting or fishing.)
Poisonous Plants, 3 of ? (incomplete)
Herbalism, 6 of 6 (Workers are now slightly better at foraging for food.  Workers can now forage for reagents.  Reagents have healing properties, and might have other uses.  3 reagents can be spent to heal 1 worker.)
Battle Formations, 7 of 7 (You can now construct the Training Field!  The Training Field can convert one worker a turn into a spear warrior, at the cost of their action for the turn.  The Training Field costs no resources and 5 labor to make.  This tech also slightly increases the combat ability of warriors when they fight alongside at least one other warrior.)
Notes:
Worker type "Spear Warrior" receives a bonus in combat, especially while using a spear.  However, this worker type is bad at everything else except hunting and researching martial techs.

Orassan Empire
Tile: B3
Trait: Eskimo
Housing: 10 primitive
Resources:
4 workers (1 injured)
2 cat-like demihuman workers
12 food
3 crude tools
Technologies:
Coldlands survival, 4 of 4 (Workers get a small bonus to all foraging in cold tiles.  Workers get a small bonus to all combat in cold tiles.  Cold tiles are typically tiles like Tundra or Taiga, or land tiles where it has recently snowed.)
Tool Usage, 6 of 6 (You can now create crude tools for the cost of 1 labor.  Crude tools cost no resources.  Crude tools give a small bonus to foraging, farming, harvesting, and construction.  Usage: "1 worker forages at A1 with 1 crude tool".)
Primitive Spearmaking, 3 of ? (incomplete)
Farming, 4 of ? (incomplete)

Cait Sith
Tile: K1
Trait: Magic
Housing: 10 primitive
Resources:
10 workers (3 injured)
21 food
4 crude spears
Technologies:
Magic Theory: 1 of ? (incomplete)
Simple Spells: 1 of ? (incomplete)
Logistics: 6 of 6 (You discover new ways to organize workers.  Increases your logistics to 6.)
Primitive Spear-Making: 6 of 6 (You can now create crude spears!  They cost no resources, but need 1 labor, to make.  When used, you must specify how many crude spears you are using.  They provide a small bonus to combat and allow hunting or fishing.)

Godly status:

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Nagas (Snakes): 31 FP
Amastay (Construction): 3 FP
Blarg (Swamps): 5 FP
Mabel (Demihumans): 13 FP
Malvol (Slaughter): 9 FP
Farsky (Titans): 11 FP
Izzith (Magic): 4 FP

Techs known to all:

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Primitive Buildings:  This allows primitive houses to be built.  Each primitive house houses one worker.  Primitive houses are made of mud and sticks and require no resources to make.  They require only 1 worker to make.  This tech also allows research into other primitive building types.