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[Kashyyk]

Polarised Hulls
The Garrote is an excellent space denial weapon, but that cuts both ways. However, we've already laid the foundation of a solution. By polarizing our ship and drone hulls, they'll naturally repel the mono-wire, allowing them to pass through unharmed.

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Polarised Hulls (1): Kashyyk

[TheFantasticMsFox]

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Polarised Hulls (1): Kashyyk

[Happerry]

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Bore Array Short-Sensor Nav: (4): Powder Miner, Kashyyk, TFF, Happerry
Polarised Hulls (1): Kashyyk

[andrea]

Improved blink
Blink was a prototype on a prototype. Very little in the design was fixed at the time, and so our implementation was basic.
Now is a different story however, with the first production models already rolling out of the first production lines. Things are set in stone, and we can work around the issue by refining the systems used. A system of fuses, overdrive capacitors and overflow lines allows the gravity drive to recover from the blink in a much shorter time compared to before.
The other problem is how fast we can enter the bore. a functioning gravity drive alleviates the issue, but we can do more! the gravity drive is linked to the rest of the hornet by a mechanism that allows motion. When the overdrive is engaged, a simple mechanism of pistons of rotating cams gives a jolt to the gravity drive, so that the bore is generated at a relative velocity toward the ship. Timing here is crucial, as it is a very brief movement. Between an active gravity drive, a moving bore and the manoeuvering thrusters, the performance of the blink in quickly relocating and reorienting the craft should singificantly improve, at least to the original planned specs.

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Improved Blink (1): Andrea
Polarised Hulls (1): Kashyyk

[Powder Miner]

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Bore Array Short-Sensor Nav: (3): Kashyyk, TFF, Happerry
Improved Blink: (2) Andrea, Powder Miner
Polarised Hulls: (1) Kashyyk

Improved Blink does seem immediately useful for furthering our carrier doctrine.

[Kashyyk]

Reversed Polarity: (2) Powder Miner, TFF
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Guillotine Charges: (1) Happerry
Bore Array Short-Sensor Nav: (2): TFF, Happerry
Improved Blink: (3) Andrea, Powder Miner, Kashyyk
Polarised Hulls: (1) Kashyyk

[Chiefwaffles]

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Bore Array Short-Sensor Nav: (3): TFF, Happerry, Chiefwaffles
Improved Blink: (4) Andrea, Powder Miner, Kashyyk, Chiefwaffles
Polarised Hulls: (1) Kashyyk

We need BASSN. We can’t afford to have adjacent bores stop working, taking our primary methods of defense and offense with them.

[andrea]

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Bore Array Short-Sensor Nav: (4): TFF, Happerry, Chiefwaffles, Andrea
Improved Blink: (4) Andrea, Powder Miner, Kashyyk, Chiefwaffles
Polarised Hulls: (1) Kashyyk

We need BASSN. We can’t afford to have adjacent bores stop working, taking our primary methods of defense and offense with them.

Yes, I suppose we do.

[TheFantasticMsFox]

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Bore Array Short-Sensor Nav: (4): TFF, Happerry, Chiefwaffles, Andrea
Improved Blink: (5) Andrea, Powder Miner, Kashyyk, Chiefwaffles, TFF
Polarised Hulls: (1) Kashyyk

[10ebbor10]

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Improved Blink: (5) Andrea, Powder Miner, Kashyyk, Chiefwaffles, TFF
Polarised Hulls: (1) Kashyyk

Keep GREAT (1) 10ebbor10
Expunge GREAT (0)
 

[Chiefwaffles]

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Bore Array Short-Sensor Nav: (4): TFF, Happerry, Chiefwaffles, Andrea
Improved Blink: (5) Andrea, Powder Miner, Kashyyk, Chiefwaffles, TFF
Polarised Hulls: (1) Kashyyk

Let's not do misleading votes, shall we? At no point in the Discord did we want to "Expunge GREAT", and phrasing it that way just biases people who aren't already informed about the issue against us.

[10ebbor10]

You wanted me to do the votebox, I do the votebox.

If you want to exclude a design for fluff reasons, that is what you're doing. I don't think Draig hands out free retcons.

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Polarised Hulls: (1) Kashyyk

Keep GREAT (1) 10ebbor10
Expunge GREAT (0)
 

[Powder Miner]

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Improved Blink: (5) Andrea, Powder Miner, Kashyyk, Chiefwaffles, TFF
Polarised Hulls: (1) Kashyyk
Keep GREAT's lore regarding indoctrination/service from birth: (1) 10ebbor10
Expunge (slash keep ignoring) GREAT's lore on that: (1) Powder Miner

seeing that this is the result of a discussion on the discord very clearly about this section of lore and not about the actual design...

As for "free retcons", ebbor, the initiative actually has to be taken to further include this in the lore, and Draignean actually wanting to do so in the future would be the exception, but I don't necessary think he would if we've built lore that contradicts something so early on. I don't see why there's any "literally remove the design" necessary and if I'm to be frank that seems intentionally deceptive and dishonest to me -- moving the goalposts and trying to get your way by not mentioning it at all until called out on it. You can't go trying to hold the team hostage with a threat ("you'll lose your land design") made by said moved goalposts.

[Kashyyk]

I believe the point of contention with the GREAT Regiments is that it implies we indoctrinate clones to fight, stripping them of agency and putting us in a totalitarian light. This, in large part, is because the initial proposal basically says this outright. However, I personally believe that all design proposals are irrelevant the moment the dice are rolled. Look at every AR ever. In the vast majority of cases, the result is not the same as the initial proposal, thus we can safely disregard that from further discussion.

The next point of contention is in the project result, specifically the line "The GREAT regiments are born to a life of service, as most Gaians are in one way or another". Depending on how you choose interpret this, it could be a philosophical statement about how all citizens and institutions serve to further their country, in a paraphrase of JFK's famous remark. Or it could be seen as further proof that the soldiers are indoctrinated from birth.

I personally choose to interpret it in the philosophical sense. It is, after all, a single comment by the GM. It is perfectly possible, after all, for children to be studied as they grow, allowing their carers to identify future career paths they will be both effective in and enjoy. After all we don't want people to be stuck in jobs they dislike or aren't good at. We can't afford that sort of inefficiency at this stage. From there they can present the child with all the guidance and assistance they need.

[Chiefwaffles]

Honestly, I don't see it as a big deal. It can be seen as a more metaphorical, and stuff like Andrea's submitted lore regarding births/children directly contradict the parts that people don't like about GREAT. But Ebbor wants a vote on it, so I'll vote. I'm fine with the status quo here of the Regime not being totalitarian, and I want to keep it that way.

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Improved Blink: (5) Andrea, Powder Miner, Kashyyk, Chiefwaffles, TFF
Polarised Hulls: (1) Kashyyk
Keep GREAT's lore regarding indoctrination/service from birth: (1) 10ebbor10
Expunge (slash keep ignoring) GREAT's lore on that: (2) Powder Miner, Chiefwaffles

So, simply put, I'm fine as it is (which is basically just largely ignoring GREAT), but the vote threatens to move Gaia towards a totalitarian regime which is the last thing I want. No totalitarianism please, thanks.