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[Draignean]

As our GREAT infantry was allowed to invent a set of small arms, it seems reasonable to assume that we can invent some basic fighter weapons to go with our fighters.

Confirming, this is true.

EDIT: Also, I'd like harder numbers for how many hardpoints you want on something other than "healthy" and "a few". We're still in negative numbered turns, so you can bug me over clarifications.

[Jilladilla]

Right, as such I will begin by requesting you to clarify roughly how many 'Hanger Slots' a typical cruiser sized carrier can carry; making the assumption that said cruiser sized carrier sacrificed all other weapons hardpoints, except for maybe a few point defense guns, for said hanger slots.

It would be the simplest and most straightforward benchmark to get in order to get a baseline from, right everyone?

[Draignean]

Right, as such I will begin by requesting you to clarify roughly how many 'Hanger Slots' a typical cruiser sized carrier can carry; making the assumption that said cruiser sized carrier sacrificed all other weapons hardpoints, except for maybe a few point defense guns, for said hanger slots.

It would be the simplest and most straightforward benchmark to get in order to get a baseline from, right everyone?

For small hangers, capable of launching one, maybe two, fightercraft at a time, refitting a similar number, and being able to hold dozen or fewer small fighters- but being unable to launch heavier fighters or refit large vessels, you could probably stick 20+ bays on if you sacrificed everything else.

Medium bays, capable of launching wings in quick succession and refitting in groups, with higher capacity and the ability to carry heavier fighters and special ordinance, probably around 10.

Large bays, capable of multiple synchronous launch and landing, able to refit large sections of the force at once and practically able to carry a couple frigates around, maybe 3 on a good day.

[Kashyyk]

The Expedition-class should probably have 6 medium hangers or 2 large hangers then.

[Chiefwaffles]

2 large hangars definitely fits the Expedition, yeah. Though I'm not quite sure about the number of hardpoints.

Is 2 Large, 4 Medium, and 2 Large Hangars a reasonable set of specifications?

[Draignean]

2 large hangars definitely fits the Expedition, yeah. Though I'm not quite sure about the number of hardpoints.

Is 2 Large, 4 Medium, and 2 Large Hangars a reasonable set of specifications?

That's running very heavy, actually. Remember that 'maybe 3 on a good day' was the estimate I gave you for EVERYTHING being sacrificed to get hangars. That means structural integrity, other weapon mounts, speed- everything.

A pair of mediums and some smalls is more reasonable. One large gun and a couple smalls is a tougher sell, but I can see it.

[Powder Miner]

I would rather not sacrifice our carry capacity that much... maybe we could just also design artillery ships to hang way the fuck back and use our large guns.

[Kashyyk]

In that case, i think we should go with 6 medium hangers, 1 heavy mount, 2 mediums and 8 smalls.

Edit: What are we doing regarding C&C btw? Are we having a separate module or integrated?

[Chiefwaffles]

C&C is integrated into the Expedition class -- the super computer mentioned in the design.

Also I'm a bit confused about terminology now. In your post Draignean I don't know when you're referring to hardpoints or hangars. Mind elaborating a bit?

[Draignean]

C&C is integrated into the Expedition class -- the super computer mentioned in the design.

Also I'm a bit confused about terminology now. In your post Draignean I don't know when you're referring to hardpoints or hangars. Mind elaborating a bit?

The original question was for hangars, and so I stated 3 large was the best you would be lucky to achieve on a cruiser if you gave up a lot along the way.

Thus, two large hangars, two large hardpoints, and 4 medium hardpoints would be a stretch. The other two options I gave were for hardpoints under the assumption of two large hangars.

EDIT:

C&C is integrated into the Expedition class -- the super computer mentioned in the design.

Wait, you meant that to be an integrated command module for a full fleet, not just the ship and its drones?

[Powder Miner]

Oh — with the clarification, 2 large hangars, 1 large gun, and a small gun or two is how I would prefer to see it done — if our carriers hang back, a large Death Ray would be more effective than 2 med Death Rays or >2 med Shatterguns
With the fighters, the small guns may not even be as necessary.

[Kashyyk]

A large Death Ray doesn't have greater range or damage, it just fires faster.

[Powder Miner]

Yes, I’m aware, but as far as I’m aware medium Death Ray RoF is pretty abysmal.
(Confirmation on Discord; two medium Death Rays don’t match the Rate of Fire of one Large one)

[Jilladilla]

Large gun mount could also be used to mount a different big gun when we get it.

And I'm personally leaning towards Large + some mediums for hangers. If only to free up more internal space for modules. Make something that's primarily a carrier, but has enough flexibility in the hull to fill out a number of sub-roles.

Even if we want to send them out with a 'maximum fighter number' load out, we could likely design/revise a module that's effectively storage for disassembled fighters. Almost certainly won't help alpha strike capacity, but it would allow it better endurance as it could replace losses to its fighter wing in the field.

[Chiefwaffles]

Okay:
1 Large hardpoint, 2 Medium Hangars, 2 Medium Hardpoints. That's good, right?