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Re: The Liir Biocollective Empire Thread | Liir | GalactiRace
« Reply #90 on: May 25, 2018, 07:04:57 pm »

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Re: The Liir Biocollective Empire Thread | Liir | GalactiRace
« Reply #91 on: May 25, 2018, 08:11:58 pm »

Neural Filter
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The Neural Filter is a devilish bit of work. On the one hand, it needs to be able to sense incoming emotions and buffer them, sorting and separating them into base categories before they reach command. Unfortunately, our initial weaving was not... sophisticated enough to handle the task without some drawbacks. In the time it takes for the filter organ to separate and classify the incoming emotions, some non-trivial amount of time has passed. Thus, while it succeeds in filtering, it adds a noticeable lag to the actions of the commanders- this, while it can be acceptable for group control, all but obviates direct control.

Neural Filter: Can be integrated into any telepathic organ or nexus |  Buffers a psionic from emotional backflow from accessing a creature via its telepathic organ, but adds a considerable (3-5 second) lag between control signals. Still good enough to command large groups of units with only a minor decrease in efficacy, but makes the organ incapable of providing direct or precise control.



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Re: The Liir Biocollective Empire Thread | Liir | GalactiRace
« Reply #92 on: May 25, 2018, 08:37:47 pm »

Does anyone have ideas for proper biological resource generation?

My best idea so far:

The Biokettle

it can be time consuming and expensive to make all the compounds we need for our ships. By utilizing microorganisms to automatically produce a desired compound from easy to use and sustainable inputs, we can attain much more efficient and economical production of the more expensive organic compounds.
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Re: The Liir Biocollective Empire Thread | Liir | GalactiRace
« Reply #93 on: May 25, 2018, 09:06:58 pm »

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Node class Command Frigate

A bioship formed for the purpose of holding the command staff of a Fleet. It is the flagship of any drone fleet, built so that it can protect the precious cargo that it is typically outfitted with in its belly, a telepathic nexus, allowing the Command staff aboard to personally control the surrounding, animalistic drones.

A node class takes a form that is similar to an old Gaian Horseshoe, with a hard layer of armoring protecting it from any enemies that attempt to destroy such a Important target.

To aid in this task, the Node is a [frigate] sized Bioship that was created focusing solely on two principles, Carrying capacity and armor even to the extent of limiting the amount of weapons that it is capable of mounting, with the thought in mind that the drone’s ships will be weapons enough to defend itself.
First concept for the carrier to mount the nexus in. a frigate that builds around capacity and armor in exchange for some weaponry hardmounts.

EDIT: Saw a request for a biological resource maker...
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Sun eater Class biological fabricator


The sun eater is nowhere near the size of a sun. What it is, however, is a set of massive, very thin membranes stretched over Kilometers in all directions, catching every bit of sunlight that it can, and shifting these membranes to catch the maximum amount possible during its orbit. As it collects Sunlight with its massive membranes, hundreds of long sticky tendrils hang out into space behind the membranes. These tendrils Catch various space debris and micrometers that fly by, often sacrificing small portion of their length to slow done those meteors for other tendrils to catch them.

The sunlight, and materials of the space debris is used along with monthly shipments of Materials and nutrients from the systems planet that the sun eater is unable to obtain by its lonesome in the dead of space. These shipments also remove the indigestible leftover of the micro debris for later disposal

The sun eater uses these materials to create a large amount of Biological materials, in a process that is similar to the photosynthesis of plants, but many times more complicated. This is only possible because of our advanced understanding of biological lifeforms and a Small amount of synthetic materiel, which is used to help form the Biological production of the sun eater.

Basically, in exchange for a synthetics cost during creation, it should be able to make a large amount of Biological Mats. And spending synthetics on infrastructure shouldnt be that much of a drain on our resources as we have almost nothing that takes synthetics right now
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Re: The Liir Biocollective Empire Thread | Liir | GalactiRace
« Reply #94 on: May 25, 2018, 10:44:46 pm »

Let us work on drones and their weapons before we commit to their carriers.



Glorrigal Battleform
Even the smallest of insects have their Purpose.
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The Glorrigal is a small creature, essentially an attempt at creating a drone with maneuvering, a weapon it can use to hit targetted enemies of Liir, and a set of explosives for its final glory, it uses almost all of our currently developed designs and technologies into its prototypical stage.

Roughly small enough that it can be carried anywhere it needs to be. the Glorrigal Battleform has a "slot", where a weapon can be installed.  It moves through a series of bladders, which empty out into an ignition chamber that is directly created from species of Sublight Drive organs. it's a centralized form of power is essentially an RTG surrounded by transplutonic metals to convert the deadly radiation directly into heat (taking the form of small, round beads of surprisingly cuddly warmth!) Biological processes create the ions and acids required to sustain explosive sacks of dense, electrically started stable explosive, essentially triggered only when the craft is ordered to crash into something and suicide detonate. Its skin consists of the Chitinous plating

However, all of these things have been miniaturized, integrated into one cohesive organism that they are no longer a bunch of parts welded or grown together, but one living creature that can be grown and mass fabricated in mass.

Strange Matter weaponization "Star-Dust"
“We do not need guns and bombs to bring peace, we need love and compassion.”
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The first example of actual ship-mounted weaponry is intended to be mounted upon our drones with little thought for anything larger. Simply, it consists of several organelles that each holds cryogenically cooled chemicals and initiate processes of electromagnetic stabilization. All of these impossible-for-organic feats are accomplished for the sole purpose of keeping the very centerpiece of this weapon stable

A very small glob of synthetically produced "Strange Matter", that is, matter that has degenerated into quarks, is kept stable, mostly due to the massive infrastructure set up behind it to produce isolated "cells" that store these packets of degenerate matter in a method that can be merely kept stable with electromagnets and cryogenic cooling.

Once the trigger is released on the weapon, a glob of the matter-- no larger than a fingernail-- is pushed into a packet of biological matter that acts as a heat shield and to prevent premature detonation. This packet is pushed out of the barrel of the weapon by a chemical combustion process improved a thousand times over from primitive gunpowder and sent barreling towards an enemy object. Once the projectile collides with a target, runs out of propellant and "dies", or is interrupted by the EM signature of a engines wake, it destabilizes the Strange Matter and the cells which contain the cell matter die.

The Strange matter briefly degenerates the surrounding matter around it, causing a runaway reaction that expands outwards, and visually looks like a golden light, sparkling as it consumes more to create more of itself for a brief 4/6ths of a second.

Then, it collapses on itself, and the resulting energy burst closely mirrors that of a thermonuclear detonation, but with higher yield.

The weapon itself consists of all the support infrastructure in a self-contained package, the packet storage of strange matter, the launch barrels, and a supply of the munitions to keep the packets safe before detonation.

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5 Dice in Glorrigal battleform, 4 in Star-Dust, 1 for Revision (1) :Blood_librarian
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Re: The Liir Biocollective Empire Thread | Liir | GalactiRace
« Reply #95 on: May 25, 2018, 11:20:35 pm »

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Val’Den Drone Warform (Corvette)

It is hard to bring Liir into space. Liir require personally food, emenities, Hallways to travel around, and not to mention the water that is necessary for the Liir as an aquatic species. All of these requires take a very big toll on the amount of space that is available for the other tools meant to actually fuffil the ships purpose.
The telepathic organ was design to remedy this.

As such it was created with the express purpose of being piloted with a telepathic organ located on a node frigate, the Val’den lacks as form of life support for Liir crewmen, Meaning that more internal capacity can be dedicated towards weaponry and armoring. Not to mention the costs saved on personally crew amenities such as recreation, Hygene management and Sleeping quarters.

Of course this comes with the Small problem that without the telepathic organ, the Val’den will fall back on its own personally programed brain, and will be vastly more effective. But it still retains basic instincts such as not to attack fleet(flock) mates and to protect the nest (the flagship) of its flock.


The Val’den takes a form similar to a large Eel, with two Large “Wings” spread out to the side and sleek back, hugging the Val’dens body tightly. These wings are meant to create Space to whatever organic systems the Val’den cannot fit inside of it long main body, such as weaponry or extra propulsion systems.
Basic corvette design, taking advantage of the lack of a crew due to the telepathic organ.

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5 Dice in Glorrigal battleform, 4 in Star-Dust, 1 for Revision (1) :Blood_librarian
5 Dice in Node Frigate-Carrier, 4 Dice in Val'den Corvette, 1 for revision (1) : Frostgiant
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Re: The Liir Biocollective Empire Thread | Liir | GalactiRace
« Reply #96 on: May 25, 2018, 11:39:05 pm »

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5 Dice in Glorrigal battleform, 4 in Star-Dust, 1 for Revision (1) :Blood_librarian
5 Dice in Node Frigate-Carrier, 4 Dice in Val'den Corvette, 1 for revision (1) : Frostgiant
5 Dice in Node Frigate-Carrier, 4 Dice in Sun-Eater, 1 for revision (1): Doomblade
We can wait for shipbuilding expertise to do the Corvette. I see it being the backbone of our fleet.
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« Reply #97 on: May 25, 2018, 11:45:05 pm »

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5 Dice in Glorrigal battleform, 4 in Star-Dust, 1 for Revision (1) :Blood_librarian
5 Dice in Node Frigate-Carrier, 4 Dice in Val'den Corvette, 1 for revision () :
5 Dice in Node Frigate-Carrier, 4 Dice in Sun-Eater, 1 for revision (2): Doomblade, Frostgiant
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Re: The Liir Biocollective Empire Thread | Liir | GalactiRace
« Reply #98 on: May 26, 2018, 12:19:12 pm »

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5 Dice in Glorrigal battleform, 4 in Star-Dust, 1 for Revision (1) :Blood_librarian
5 Dice in Node Frigate-Carrier, 4 Dice in Val'den Corvette, 1 for revision () :
5 Dice in Node Frigate-Carrier, 4 Dice in Sun-Eater, 1 for revision (2): Doomblade, Frostgiant
4 Dice in Node Frigate-Carrier (time), 4 Dice in Sun-Eater (time), 2 for revision (1): Jerick
Just a reminder guys if you're investing four or five dice into a project it'll help if you say what you're spending the extra dice on rerolling (time, progress or cost). As for my votes, I'm wary of overinvesting dice, seeing as how useful revisions can be. But on the other hand, while we still have time left, both the projects I'm voting for could easily wind up taking a long time and we do need this stuff finished before the game proper starts.

Edit: added links
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Re: The Liir Biocollective Empire Thread | Liir | GalactiRace
« Reply #99 on: May 26, 2018, 12:54:46 pm »

Why you all build spaceships before we even half way through engine, or reactor or anything for that matter?
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Re: The Liir Biocollective Empire Thread | Liir | GalactiRace
« Reply #100 on: May 26, 2018, 09:39:17 pm »

Why you all build spaceships before we even half way through engine, or reactor or anything for that matter?
Because we need them before combat starts.

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5 Dice in Glorrigal battleform, 4 in Star-Dust, 1 for Revision (1) :Blood_librarian
5 Dice in Node Frigate-Carrier, 4 Dice in Val'den Corvette, 1 for revision () :
5 Dice in Node Frigate-Carrier (progress, time), 4 Dice in Sun-Eater (time), 1 for revision (2): Doomblade, Frostgiant
4 Dice in Node Frigate-Carrier (time), 4 Dice in Sun-Eater (time), 2 for revision (1): Jerick

Added notes for extra dice.
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« Reply #101 on: May 27, 2018, 12:41:54 am »

Why you all build spaceships before we even half way through engine, or reactor or anything for that matter?
Because we need them before combat starts.

You know we need other things right, like ground troops, a way to transport them and weapon which we start at best at the same time we do the ships, and we will invest Resources to the reaserch anyway.
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« Reply #102 on: May 27, 2018, 04:25:27 am »

We can't reroll efficacy Doom only time, cost or progress. If we could reroll efficacy I'd be voting for that all day every day.

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You know we need other things right, like ground troops, a way to transport them and weapon which we start at best at the same time we do the ships, and we will invest Resources to the reaserch anyway.
We start with ground troops if I recall (though ours are pretty shit I think) and while I agree we need something to colonise and/or land troops neither of those are as likely to take a long time to finish as a full ship.
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« Reply #103 on: May 27, 2018, 12:41:40 pm »

Changed the die back to Progress reroll.
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Re: The Liir Biocollective Empire Thread | Liir | GalactiRace
« Reply #104 on: May 28, 2018, 12:10:49 am »

Iw ould pefer we build the drones before we build the carrier, but I cannot hope to really convince anyone at htis point.
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5 Dice in Glorrigal battleform, 4 in Star-Dust, 1 for Revision (1) :Blood_librarian
5 Dice in Node Frigate-Carrier, 4 Dice in Val'den Corvette, 1 for revision () :
5 Dice in Node Frigate-Carrier (progress, time), 4 Dice in Sun-Eater (time), 1 for revision (3): Doomblade, Frostgiant, Blood_librarian
4 Dice in Node Frigate-Carrier (time), 4 Dice in Sun-Eater (time), 2 for revision (1): Jerick
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