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[hector13]

I don't like to remember that game.

[TricMagic]

Do not trust Hector. He twists words, rather than looking for the lines in between.

That, and Juicebox should be the best vote other than him. For me anyway.

[hector13]

What makes you say I'm not looking for the lines in between?

What are the lines in between, that you have seen?

You accused MM of twisting your words too:

...No clue why you twist them so..

If an SK exists, then there should have been two kills.1 kill would have been prevented, while another went through. If one does not, then no issue. It's just a theory on what could have happened. I thought I went over this before...

Is that better for your senses?

I "twist" your words because I am looking for clues, and because text communication occasionally fails. So I take whatever you say, translate into something that makes sense to me, and attempt to reflect it back through the screen. Then I study your reaction for clues as to how close I came to your original intent.

So I'm not sure why I'm less trustworthy and he is moreso..? Particularly when I prefer to ask questions that clarify the veracity of my assumptions, as opposed to plowing ahead and expecting you to respond to my assumption and correct me simultaneously.

[juicebox]

Do not trust Hector. He twists words, rather than looking for the lines in between.

That, and Juicebox should be the best vote other than him. For me anyway.

How exactly am I the best vote? Can you please state your case?

[TricMagic]

Can you state a case?

[juicebox]

I don't currently need to state a case, since I'm not advocating to lynch anybody right now. You, however, are calling for people to vote for me, which if you want people to do that you should provide them with a case for it.

[Starver]

I've definitely provided a case. And if I've missed any refutation of my reasoning, I'd appreciate a recap.

[mightymushroom]

I've got three votes that look pretty firm on me. juicebox hasn't voted but I'm one of the top suspects there, too.

They say never give up but in this case I have a specific need due to my role.

• Delay
• Redirect
• Gladiator, which I hadn't even heard of when I got it but I found the identical action name and description on the mafiascum wiki
  I never did figure out just how I could use that one, except if it was included as more of a tiebreak forcing sort of thing.
• And a mostly "vanilla" variety of Super Saint

When I'm lynched the last person to vote for me becomes a vanilla version of their role (vanilla townie, plain goon, etc.). So mightymushroom.
There, that's defused.


hector, you've already said you suspect me and no one else. If you won't accept my version of my own posts, then I have no more defense to offer.

You are expecting more from me than you've gotten, and filling in your blanks with scumminess. You're right, I don't know what questions to ask. Do you think I'm happy I spent D2 chasing a ghost in TricMagic's imagination? I reached a point in the last game, too, where I had been easily led down side paths and had no idea how to break open the scum team. I don't want pity, that will only encourage bad habits, and in its own way it makes sense to reason that if I'm not contributing well enough it could be because I don't want to be.

It's just so wearying to see myself portrayed as some sadistic mastermind veiling secret taunts. If I ever have occasion to play as mafia, I can only hope you'll discover that's not how I would do it. I can almost believe our communication gap is closing, but not fast enough and I can't keep up my end of this back and forth even if we extended. I've accepted the imminent outcome.

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I will respond directly to (5) "What do you mean by the italicised part?" since that is newer, and I hope simpler.

This:

[5]: "This is also the point at which I warn hector that I don't like what I read as eagerness to steer everyone else away from TricMagic."

I am so eager to steer everyone clear of TricMagic that I list him as scum in a reads list, don't bring up ever again that I think Moony's flip cleared him, and vote him at the start of D3.

You argue that my D2 accusation is no good by including your vote of D3 as evidence.
We already covered that I underappreciated what you did D2, but expecting me to know beforehand what you will do D3 is a step too far.

[FallacyofUrist]

The sun is falling through the air. Off in the horizon, it approaches the horizon.

It's nearly time.

Unless one of you would push it back?
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VOTECOUNT:
*[0] hector13:
*[0] Starver:
-[0] TricMagic:
*[0] IcyTea31:
*[0] randomgenericusername:
*[2] juicebox: TricMagic, Starver
*[4] mightymushroom: hector13, randomgenericusername, IcyTea31, mightymushroom

Those not voting: juicebox

*: Personal extension. The power to push the day's end back.

[3] Community Extension: TricMagic, IcyTea31, Starver

The day ends at 7:30. Will you push the sun back? Delay the smoke, rapidly filling the air? Or will you let your current situation take its course?

[TricMagic]

How about no? Don't think this is the best, not least of which is that I really don't think this is correct.

[FallacyofUrist]

If the vote count is wrong, please tell me. And why it's wrong.

[TricMagic]

It's not, I just dislike this lynch.

[hector13]

Convince us to vote for someone else then.

Also, I voted for a communal extension at some point.

Communal extension, anyway.

To be fair, unless there's another vig kicking around, this is probably our last chance to flip Tric. That's the only other option I'd take right now.

[TricMagic]

I would take it too.

[Starver]

The advantage I can see (PPE: prior to the last two ninjaing posts, this is!) is that it either confirms or modifies the assumed D1 actions. If we're lucky it gets a multifunction (but secondary to the kills) Mafia, rather than something like a Jester JOAT or an actual useful (FCVO 'useful') Town-allied person.

Still, we can probably afford to lose them, if it's actually not too insane a death-condition. I would prefer to go for someone with no declarable Town alliance, as we're both trying to vote for (even if we're a little bit wrong), but the worst thing is that after so much "so who are you voting for, Starver?" there seems to be very little notice taken of my choice now that I've made one. (And not so lightly, do I do so!)