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[Terenos]

Indoor or housing is both Livable, so frostbitten folks could do the research and it'd be just as good as resting(In theory). If we get the gathering inventory we'd know how much we've got left and can plan ahead a bit better.

[NUKE9.13]

Note that we can dismantle the steam turbine at any point to get 4 steel and a steam core. And unless we plan on building a motorised vehicle at some point, I don't think we'll ever need it, so doing so is fairly safe.

I'd like to start down the Heating tech path ASAP, cos whilst the first item isn't super useful, I assume later items will involve upgrading our Generator, which we def want to do.

[Hotfire90]

We don't really need to know the limit of our gatherable resources right now, being able to build a hothouse would be more valuable so we can stockpile a lot of food for expeditions when the weather clears up. We definitely should try to make as many expeditions to the supply ship as possible, before it breaks down.

[Jilladilla]

Note that we can dismantle the steam turbine at any point to get 4 steel and a steam core. And unless we plan on building a motorised vehicle at some point, I don't think we'll ever need it, so doing so is fairly safe.

This is true; heck, it's even a Free Action! I'd still only recommend doing so if it is necessary though; we don't exactly have the capabilities to create another and it may be useful later.

Don't hesitate if that steel/steam core is needed in the now, of course. Given how we have a very healthy stockpile of Steam Cores and our need for steel isn't overwhelming at the moment; I do not believe it to be necessary at this time.

[Madman198237]

The turbine be useful only if we can make a really large locomotive or a ship. Heck, it probably is too big for anything save the most ridiculously unrealistic locomotives.

Though living on a perpetually-moving self-sustaining icebreaker WOULD be pretty neat...

[NUKE9.13]

The conundrum is this: as I understand it, for some inscrutable reason, permanent resources don't add that amount each turn, they refill our stockpile to that amount each turn- and if we already have that amount or more, they do nothing. Which basically means we have to end every turn with 0 wood and 0 steel, or we're losing out.
So whilst we could do better things by dismantling the turbine, we'd end up with 1 steel in reserve, which would be bad.

@ebbor I haven't misunderstood how the resource system works, right?

[10ebbor10]

for some inscrutable reason

The problem with infinite storage and accumulation of resources is that it makes it way too easy to accumulate large reserves of resources.

@ebbor I haven't misunderstood how the resource system works, right?

Your understanding is correct.

[NUKE9.13]

Fair enough. I mean, I disagree that that's a problem- the amount of resources we get is the same, we just need to do things in a slightly convoluted manner- but it's your game.

Anyway, I'd like to avoid more frostbitten folks if possible, so I think we should do the medicine posts instead of the coal thumper. The already frostbitten folks can figure out the hothouse.

x3 Gather Wood (Automaton)
x1 Gather Steel (Free)
Set up the Steelworks (-2 temp Wood, -2 temp Steel, -1 Perm Coal, +1 Perm Steel)
Set up Medicine Posts (-2 temp Wood, -1 temp Steel)

Innovate - Food/Health/Shelter : Hothouse (Frostbitten)

[King Zultan]

x3 Gather Wood (Automaton)
x1 Gather Steel (Free)
Set up the Steelworks (-2 temp Wood, -2 temp Steel, -1 Perm Coal, +1 Perm Steel)
Set up Medicine Posts (-2 temp Wood, -1 temp Steel)

Innovate - Food/Health/Shelter : Hothouse (Frostbitten)

+1

[10ebbor10]

Anyway, more votes?

[Terenos]

x3 Gather Wood (Automaton)
x1 Gather Steel (Free)
Set up the Steelworks (-2 temp Wood, -2 temp Steel, -1 Perm Coal, +1 Perm Steel)
Set up Medicine Posts (-2 temp Wood, -1 temp Steel)

Innovate - Food/Health/Shelter : Hothouse (Frostbitten)

+1. Bringing us to 3.

[Parsely]

^^ +1

The conundrum is this: as I understand it, for some inscrutable reason, permanent resources don't add that amount each turn, they refill our stockpile to that amount each turn- and if we already have that amount or more, they do nothing. Which basically means we have to end every turn with 0 wood and 0 steel, or we're losing out.

I'd point out that this system is not a new one and it exists in other games (that are good), like mana in Magic the Gathering, or action points in XCOM, where your resources are replenished at the start of a turn and the core gameplay revolves around using your resources as efficiently as possible.

As for believability: to me, it's easy to accept that if we don't have space to store a resource that we wouldn't be able to produce more of it.

If we could infinitely stockpile resources then we'll accumulate large amounts of resources we don't need to spend often, which defeats the whole point of making a rare resource, and makes it harder for ebbor to control what we have.

[Ardent Debater]

x3 Gather Wood (Automaton)
x1 Gather Steel (Free)
Set up the Steelworks (-2 temp Wood, -2 temp Steel, -1 Perm Coal, +1 Perm Steel)
Set up Medicine Posts (-2 temp Wood, -1 temp Steel)

Innovate - Food/Health/Shelter : Hothouse (Frostbitten)

+1. Bringing us to 3.

+1. Make that five.

[10ebbor10]

Flamfjord, 1878, Week 4

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

x3 Gather Wood (Automaton)
x1 Gather Steel (Free)
Set up the Steelworks (-2 temp Wood, -2 temp Steel, -1 Perm Coal, +1 Perm Steel)
Set up Medicine Posts (-2 temp Wood, -1 temp Steel)

Innovate - Food/Health/Shelter : Hothouse (Frostbitten)

Surlington's Logbook

Midday Observation : The snow has ceased. Temperatures remain stable around 30 degrees. The situation in the Fjord has not improved, ice rendering it non-navigable.

Expedition notes :

We fired up the blast furnace yesterday, producing desperately needed metals for our reserves. The furnaces are hungry however, and between the generator and steel production, we're eating into our reserves as frightening pace. If we can't acquire more supplies soon, we will be forced to shut down the generator and endure the cold.


Choose 5 Actions + 1 action for your Automaton (Note which)+1 Gathering action

Spoiler: Actions (click to show/hide)

Indoor

Indoor activities are actions that can be taken by people operating indoors. Typical indoor activities are research, constructing things in factories and other such things.

Innovate - With the new workshop, a range of possibilities opens up (Max 1 per turn)
- Heating : Hubs and Heaters : 2 Temp Steel : The construction of auxiliary steam generators and coal driven heaters provides a flexible, but inefficient way to provide additional heat   [In practice, this lets you spend Temp coal on actions/Buildings to increase their heat]
- Exploration/Industry : Telescopic Lenses : 1 Temp Steel : Inclusion of lenses on the beacon would allow us to see much further, providing more accurate weather reports
- Resources : Gathering Inventory : Our resources are not infinite. A closer look at all stuff around may identify just how much we have left
- Food/Health/Shelter : Frostbite treatments : (1 food) Frostbite is a dangerous enemy. Refreshing our medical personnel on optimal treatment is an important task.

Outdoor

Outdoor activities are actions that occur outdoors. Typical activities are construction, gathering and exploration.

Gather Wood- Increase Temp Wood by 1 

Gather Steel- Increase Temp Steel by 1

Gather Food- Increase Temp Food by 1

Gather Coal- Increase Temp Coal by 1

Expand Workshops - Build a series of workshops, allowing you to work on more complex equipment for the city, improving your basic technology and ability to adapt to the Frost. Cost 2 Temp wood, 3 Temp Steel

Expand Hunter's Huts - Create enough equipment to allow a small amount of men to act as hunters, providing your city with fresh food. Cost : 4 Temp Wood

Set up Hothouse - Build a Hothouse, producing food safely indoors Cost 1 wood , 2 steel, 1 steam core

Expand Sawmill - A primitive sawmill, converting the frozen forests surrounding you into useful lumber Cost : 4 Temp Wood, Gives : + 1 Perm Wood

Set up Coal Thumper - Through injection of heated steam, this facility produces a decent amount of coal .
Cost 2 Temp Wood, 1 Temp Steel, Gives : + 2 Perm Coal

Send an expedition into the Frostland Choose a destination and send an expedition. Cost : 2 Temp food

Salvage the steam turbine Free action : 4 steel, 1 steam core

Weather : Minus 30 degrees, Severe Windchill
Housing : Lethal / Freezing / Very Cold / Cold / Chilly / Livable / Comfortable
Indoor Work : Lethal / Freezing / Very Cold / Cold / Chilly / Livable / Comfortable
Outdoor Work : Lethal / Freezing / Very Cold / Cold / Chilly / Livable / Comfortable

Spoiler: Flamfjord (click to show/hide)

Originally a research and trading settlement established by the Empire in the north, it served as a testbed for the Generators. Dr Surlington launched expeditions from here, and so was well known to the few permanent residents. Thanks to his long-held suspicions of an imminent ice age, he had contingency plans in place to recruit the finest scientists and engineers, whilst also importing hardy laborers to work in the factories. Combining their expertise with the small amounts of advanced technology housed in the settlement's labs, he intends to upgrade the generator to something more modern, and weather the storm for as long as possible.

Flamfjord is, as the name suggests, situated in a fjord. The woods in the area are sparse, but existent, and a few seams of coal and iron are known to exist in the surrounding mountains. In addition, it served as a trading hub for the natives, who exchanged furs and reindeer meat for British goods. However, it is unknown whether any of them have survived the Frost's embrace.

Resources
Wood : 1 (1)
Steel : 1 (1)
Coal : 0 (0)    [-1 Temp/Turn : Generator]
Food: 1 (1)     [-1 Temp/Turn : Winter's hunger]
Steam Cores : 0 (3)

The City

Prototype Generator : Raises Housing Temperature 1 step by consuming 1 coal
Makeshift Housing : Raises Housing Temperature by 2 steps
Medicine Posts : Provides basic healthcare [Indoor Work]
Workshop : Allows Technological Advancement  [Indoor Work]
Sawmill : Provides 1 Perm Wood   [Outdoor Work]
Steelworks : Provides 1 Perm steel, -1 Perm Coal [Outdoor Work]
Hunter's hut :  Provides 1 Perm Food [Outdoor Work]
Gathering Posts : Improves outdoor temperature by 1 step
Beacon : A powerful reflector allowing expeditions to easily find your city

Gathering gear/i]: 1 Free Gathering action

Winter's Hunger : Dropping temperatures make gathering food harder, and men require larger rations

Inhabitants and factions

Sergeant William Baxter, Royal Marines. Successfully marshaled his fellow survivors back to the ship when they got lost on their way to the city.

The City is lead by Dr William Surlington. Member of the esteemed Royal Society, and visionary climate scientist, William Surlington was the driving force behind the creation of the city of Flamfjord as the Frost covered the world. EHis great knowledge of the climate and his experience with Arctic Expeditions are great benefits to the colony, though his curiosity and fervent desire to understand the Frost sometimes drive him to take risks others do not understand.

The city is peaceful and orderly. No major factions are present, for now.

Spoiler: The Frostland (click to show/hide)

The Supply Ship We've recovered what could easily be recovered from the vessel, but there's still steel, wood and coal left within it. With considerable manpower or heavy machinery we could try to recover it's steam turbine and boilers. The constantly shifting ice is cracking it's hull however, and the vessel with not last forever.

The steam launch The cargo ship's steam launch was missing, last spotted floundered farther into the Fjord. The tiny vessel is nonetheless quite advanced, powered by a steam core.

The Outpost(Survivors) One of many scientific outposts dotting the artic, this outpost could have been the destination of some of our survivors  (cost 1 food)

The Forest(Survivors) A forest lower on the hills, that may have offered shelter and food  (cost 1 food)

The Village (Survivors) A village settled by the native population. The empire had decent relations with them, so they may have offered shelter  (cost 1 food)

The Telegraph Station Once this station had a direct oceanic cable to London. The link inland has broken under the weight of the snow, but the seaside station should still be connected.

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[NUKE9.13]

You haven't updated the Steelworks action, FYI.

Anyway, obviously we set up the coal thumper this turn. With the snow clearing up, we should probably send out an expedition. I'd also like to work on heating research.

Gather Steel x2 (Automaton)
Gather Wood x1 (Free)
Gather Food x1

Set up Coal Thumper (-2w, -1s)

Innovate -  Heating : Hubs and Heaters (-2s)

Send an expedition into the Frostland - The Outpost(Survivors) (-1f)