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Leonidas

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Elf Village Loot
« on: April 30, 2018, 03:55:40 pm »

Raiding elf villages is like sending your children off to elementary school. They bring home little art projects. And you aren't sure whether the kids actually think that this item is attractive, or whether they know it's ugly and they only brought it home because the teacher told them to. So you have to decide: Do you exclaim over it and put it on the fridge? Or do you wait until they aren't looking and toss it in the atom-smasher?

"Oh, look! You brought back some arrows and a wooden cap! I will treasure these items forever!"

I'm leaning towards the atom-smasher.
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Shonai_Dweller

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Re: Elf Village Loot
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2018, 04:09:19 pm »

Raiding elf villages is like sending your children off to elementary school. They bring home little art projects. And you aren't sure whether the kids actually think that this item is attractive, or whether they know it's ugly and they only brought it home because the teacher told them to. So you have to decide: Do you exclaim over it and put it on the fridge? Or do you wait until they aren't looking and toss it in the atom-smasher?

"Oh, look! You brought back some arrows and a wooden cap! I will treasure these items forever!"

I'm leaning towards the atom-smasher.
Turn off everything except livestock (and prisoners) when raiding elves. The options are there for a reason.
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random_odd_guy

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Re: Elf Village Loot
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2018, 04:16:05 pm »

Dunno about you, but I can always use more bins chests and barrels...as for everything *else* though...
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Re: Elf Village Loot
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2018, 02:52:28 am »

When your next caravan visits, trade as normal, but this time toss in the exquisite piece of elven mastery for free! Be generous. Your dwarven merchants will be happy, and you will be happy.
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Re: Elf Village Loot
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2018, 09:43:55 pm »

The last caravan that visited had a wagon explode for no reason. All 5 other wagons turned around and left. And the one that blew up left over 5 pages of random junk 2 miles from my fortress, slowing all productivity to a halt for hours on end as every man woman and child stopped doing their actual jobs to haul stuff I didn't want to my stockpiles.


Why is hauling vendor garbage such a high priority task?
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Re: Elf Village Loot
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2018, 10:42:52 pm »

'd' 'b' 'f' and drop a refuse stockpile under the stuff!!
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Re: Elf Village Loot
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2018, 11:51:20 pm »

'd' 'b' 'f' and drop a refuse stockpile under the stuff!!

Yeah but it feels wasteful to not take it. The thing is I *want* whoever isn't busy to be hauling stuff. I *don't* want people to be doing it in favor of more important tasks like mining, building my pump stack (which takes long enough even when people *are* doing their jobs...), etc.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2018, 03:13:14 am »

Wagons don't deconstruct for no reason (although the reason can be very weak). They deconstruct when scared, and they're more easily scared than horses. Half a goblin tooth can be enough, and scary animals can be as well. It's actually better now than it was, as they can now occasionally handle seeing scary goblin remains, and the caravan can sometimes continue to the trade depot even if one pack animal scuttles its goods (haven't had any wagon deconstructions recently to compare with), rather than having it always result in a mandatory rout.
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Re: Elf Village Loot
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2018, 04:07:09 am »

Turn off everything except livestock (and prisoners) when raiding elves. The options are there for a reason.
I did that on my latest raid. The loot report said that I had captured a bunch of animals. But the dwarves came back hauling and dropping their own backpacks, waterskins, and meals. I never got any animals.
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2018, 04:11:04 am »

Turn off everything except livestock (and prisoners) when raiding elves. The options are there for a reason.
I did that on my latest raid. The loot report said that I had captured a bunch of animals. But the dwarves came back hauling and dropping their own backpacks, waterskins, and meals. I never got any animals.
You'll want to bug report that then. It should work (works whenever I've stolen animals in the past).
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Re: Elf Village Loot
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2018, 04:34:58 am »

Maybe there were no animals at the site?
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2018, 04:42:07 am »

Maybe there were no animals at the site?
The report showed my dwarves battling lots of tigers and other animals. Though the loot report didn't show me as receiving any tigers.
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2018, 06:56:09 am »

Maybe there were no animals at the site?
The report showed my dwarves battling lots of tigers and other animals. Though the loot report didn't show me as receiving any tigers.
If the report said you looted animals and you got no animals that's a bug, definitely not a result of no animals. Not expected behavior.
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Leonidas

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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2018, 07:44:53 pm »

False alarm. The animals showed up eventually. Now I have to figure out what to do with 19 horses, 19 porcupines, and 16 ostriches.

Y'know if this is a representative haul from razing an elf village, a military fort might eat comfortably for quite a while on only trading and razing.
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2018, 08:03:41 pm »

Trading with elves regularly results in large amounts of tigers, elephants, jaguars, and rhinos. This doesn't surprise me at all. I'm just surprised you got so many of the same species.
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