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ShinyandKittens

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The ability to free animals
« on: April 17, 2018, 09:33:29 pm »

This doesn’t instantly free the animal, the animal paths to the edge of the map and as soon as it leaves, it is converted into a wild animal, on its way to freedom and its own life. This would end up having the requirement of letting us reverse the ages system by repopulating fanciful creatures. (This would be hard).
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GoblinCookie

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Re: The ability to free animals
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2018, 07:10:14 am »

This doesn’t instantly free the animal, the animal paths to the edge of the map and as soon as it leaves, it is converted into a wild animal, on its way to freedom and its own life. This would end up having the requirement of letting us reverse the ages system by repopulating fanciful creatures. (This would be hard).

You can already free wild animals you captured in cage traps, but I think you are talking about tame animals.  But tame animals don't become wild animals just because you dump them in the middle of the wilderness.
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Re: The ability to free animals
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2018, 08:22:43 am »

IRL there are various attempts to curate captive populations of once-wild animals or release the young that are not yet so totally human-habituated (here's an interesting recent variation!), by hand-rearing chicks from hatching in a way that aims to avoid imprinting upon humans.

I think the way DF works is to assume that offspring of tame animals start tame, rather than neutral or perhaps even inclined to be wild (imagine the !!fun!! inherent in dorfish animal husbandry if it were not so!) and I don't think there's much scope for an Animal Untrainer in the DF era.

But 'feralising' is a suitably historic thing (unintentionally so), if a good balance can be struck between deliberate shunning the tame animal and what would happen if nobody visits the tame leopards and their offspring for years just because of the usual fortress-work cruft getting in the way. Maybe, when it's not just grazers that need enough to eat, we'll start to really care about keeping the carnivores provided with suitable non-dorf meat (on the bone, on the hoof or on the run) of our choosing.

Perhaps full-tamed status should also rust (with several warning opportunities, perhaps requiring a couple or more new generations to trip over the intermediate thresholds on the way to feral (not actively dangerous to fort-population creatures, but no longer trainable or happy to stay pastured without bringing in the Trainer or other sustained contact again) and offspring of feral creatures that change from infant to adult without positive interactions from civilised creatures can become fully wild.
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Grand Sage

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Re: The ability to free animals
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2018, 03:42:11 pm »

I think the word your looking for Starver is Domesticated. Domesticated animals give birth to tame children. Adult wild animals cannot be domesticated, but there children can. So its a question of them never knowing a life without dwarves.
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Starver

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Re: The ability to free animals
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2018, 03:48:18 pm »

That word does apply, but I was concentrating on the dedomestication, detaming and rewilding direction (with or without reintroduction of hostility if that's their natural state), as I understood the OP..

Shooting the breeze, though, with the concept. Different paths could exist.
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