You literally tried to do so 3 posts ago. That sounds like something that GoblinCookie, the master of derp philosophy would do. Fine, you may continue to argue with dragdeler. I won't stop you. Just remember that you're not the only normal person in a forum full of "crypto-fascists".
It is not full of them, it just has them in it. This latest whispering campaign of
"everyone hates GoblinCookie" goes back to
this thread, on which you posted. I spent a number of pages criticising certain folks sociobiological delusions and said folks immediately went about slandering me to everybody, in a number of posts which the devs then deleted. You see one of the key strategies of covert-far-right-elements
, is to
Never Play Defense; so rather than continue the discussion and defend their notions which I would have found rather interesting, they instead went on the attack. The thing is though, that as long as you are personally involved you are yourself vulnrable to counter-attack, so the trick as
they themselves openly teach, is to attack a person's reputation. That way your enemies are constantly on the defensive against your proxies, but they cannot attack you because you are no longer in the fight.
If we cull shit in a smart way then my only remaining criticism is that I'd find it hm... stale. As I understand it, the system only considers family links and no other historical link. I shriek at the tought of adding even more not family related strings. And it would feel like a database anchor, rather than some arcane language the things on my screen actually use. Maybe you're underestimating how much the fact that, everybody has trained reflexes in accordance to conventional "real life" (short!) naming conventions, plays in favor of the latter. And from the moment some name actually pokes my interest and I take time to check the links, I'm allready in some other window. Not to mention it might actually cull the name that interests me. (Or I simply don't notice it because I sure as shit don't read everything, I mean I got a whole announcement window with conversations going on... next to my browser)
Also I'd like to take the opportunity to point out two things:
1. Concerning defining actual preferences that will define entities (so lore building), I consider Threetoe the highest authority.
2. And guys not even considering the suffix/prefix thing, is a missed opportunity to take an actual step in the direction of making dwarvish a (more) functional language. Heck if we get some verbs after that we could allready say a lot of stuff. And maybe, just maybe the game could start making use of meaning. And be it only to lock some endgame stuff behind a random string (so a password/riddles from the gamers perspective), tough I'm sure we can come up with better.
I don't really understand this response very well, seems rambling. The idea was to have a compound word that combines the first name of the civilization with the last name of the site government, or the other way around in order both to reflect more clan based naming systems and to allow us to quickly group characters from the same place together. It is families that create the main word explosion in my idea because of the number of grandparents we have, although I cut their number in half effectively there are still a lot of them.
The combat names currently are pretty long and don't provide any useful information at all. So it is not like long names are not in the game already.
Okay, well last night I sent GoblinCookie a long PM, politely explaining why I thought the thread (and the larger forum in general) seemed to have turned against him, and why I felt justified in flat-out ignoring certain of his arguments without rebuttal. I reminded him of several times over the past year where he has posted and/or defended ideas that either lack historical basis, would be unworkable in DF, would likely be unpopular among players, or were just plain wrong. I urged him to take these lessons to heart, to learn from his mistakes, to remember what I'd said about his powers of judgement. I told him that I knew his argumentative nature would urge him to fight me on this matter, to insist that he'd been right all along. I cautioned him not to do so, this was not the right time to follow that particular path. I reminded him that his upcoming mod release would go a long way towards restoring his standing among the forum.
Unfortunately, he did not respond as I'd hoped, debating every point, voicing pleasure in having driven people away, and calling people names. And then I log on to the forum, and see this. Ah, well. I think we might as well declare this thread officially over.
So you did respond afterall SixOfSpades, even though you said you wouldn't?
Flat out ignoring arguments without rebuttal does not make you look smart, it just it look like you were just blustering and have nothing actually to say to back anything up. You make a good number of claims, none of which you back up with anything at all, you simply declare stuff wrong/unpopular/unworkable and expect me to simply capitulate simply because you loudly declared it to be so.
Also, there is nothing at all constructive about lecturing a person who already pissed off with you as though you are some kind of all-wise teacher and they the ignorant student. The vast majority of people would dig in their heels in response to such pretentiousness, so it is not exactly notable that I did so.
I guess we can keep talking now that we have dogpiled GoblinCookie.
I was just taking a few days off to calm down
. That and to play Dragon Age 2, work on the next version of my mod and look up on the finer points of covert far-right strategies on Youtube. In other words, not spending hours on end posting detailed descriptions and arguments and having no time to do anything else.
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