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Geltor

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Re: Steps to War: A grand strategy game where you can settle Antarctica
« Reply #240 on: April 17, 2018, 04:20:27 pm »

well, i just went over my population limit (185k). under my model i should be having billions of people in less than 3 years
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Re: Steps to War: A grand strategy game where you can settle Antarctica
« Reply #241 on: April 17, 2018, 08:47:39 pm »

Apparently the devs are writing up a quick guide.  Although from the context I'm unsure if that's a guide for the game in general, or specifically for the military aspect (Mark mentioned it during a conversation/query about how to attack once you train troops).

Its for everything...here is what he posted on discord

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[stw] Mark - Today at 5:08 AM
Hi @everyone,

We'd like to thank you for being patient so far! We've got quite a few issues left to fix and want to thank all of you for participating in the beta. We've still got a few weeks ahead of us to fix issues and of course don't hesitate to post any issues you have on the forums (https://council.stepstowar.com/) so we can have a better look at things.

To make things more transparent with the game and the mechanics, Kevin and I are working on a 'Dummy guide to World Domination', which explains every stat in the game and how it's influenced. Hopefully this will make things easier to digest and you can create a better nation for your people. That said - you are competing with other nations, constantly. That means any effect your nation has e.g. positive employment will have a negative effect on your neighbours etc.. So not everyone with the same 'stats' will get the same result.

Also the starting scenario seems to be difficult, hence why we will simplify that scenario. We will come with more details as we write up the guide. This will take a few days, so be patient :smiley:
Keep testing the game and the functionality, as we both rely on your input to make the game better!

PS. Here are the topics we are going to include in the guide over time:

Wizard
-- And how it affects your nation

Game
- Nation Mode
- War Mode


Nation Mode
- The World
- IMF
-- Overview
-- Loans
-- Requests
-- Council
- Nation
-- Overview
-- Government
-- Population
-- Culture
- Economy
-- Overview
-- Income
-- Expenses
- Stock Market
-- Stock Market
-- Bonds
- Politics
-- Overview
-- Treaties
-- Budget Committee
- Military
-- Leadership
-- Production
-- Training
-- Organizations
-- Unit Design
-- Research
- Intelligence
-- Overview
-- Cells
-- Missions
- Resources
-- Overview
-- Natural
-- Manufactured
-- Infrastructure
- Trade
-- Overview
-- Import
-- Export
-- Treaties
-- Routes
- Alliances
-- Overview
-- Create
-- Membership

Treaties
- Alliance
- Annexation
- Assume Foreign Debt
- Common Market
- Cultural Exchanges
- Economic Aid
- Economic Partnership
- Free Region
- Human Development Collaboration
- Military Trespassing Right
- Noble Cause
- Request Military Presence Removal
- Request War Declaration
- Research Partnership
- Weapons Trade
- Weapons Trade Embargo

Diplomacy
- Threat/Warn
- Denounce

Thermal Maps
- GDP
- GDP Growth
- Birth Rate
- Death Rate
- Corruption
- Debt
- Inflation
- Credit Rating
- Population
- Economy Index
- Military Index
- Research Index
- Resources Index
- Human Development Index
- Relations & Alliances
- Political Sphere
- Wars

War Mode
- Strategic Map
-- Land / Air
-- Infrastructure
--- Infrastructure
--- Ruse
---- Reveal Information
---- Decoy
-- Units
--- Organizations
--- Logistics
--- Ruse
---- Reveal Information
---- Decoy
--- Tactics
--- Tactical Information
--- General
--- Small Units Tactics
--- Offensive
--- Defensive
--- Deception
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JacenHanLovesLegos

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Re: Steps to War: A grand strategy game where you can settle Antarctica
« Reply #242 on: April 17, 2018, 10:14:28 pm »

I've managed to have a steadily (but slowly) growing GDP, so I must be doing something okay. Of course, I have also almost bankrupted my country by running expenses at 100% for two years, but those are just details. And even with all expenses at zero, corruption alone vastly outweighs my paltry 2 billion dollar tax income.

In other news, it seems like the "real-time update" random number variations were removed.
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Re: Steps to War: A grand strategy game where you can settle Antarctica
« Reply #243 on: April 18, 2018, 06:06:04 am »

Well, my goal to up my irrigation didn't work at all. My production didn't change, not a bit. Even with more irregation, a better efficiency i'm still with about 300m kg grains (daily,weekly,monthly, dunno). I still wonder why those value really change so much everyday (i think i saw a value being halve into two the following day).

Waiting for the guide, but feel a bite late to me. It should have been there before the release.

Edit: While I was writing this, i went from 295 to 385m kg grains production. Whatever...
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Geltor

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Re: Steps to War: A grand strategy game where you can settle Antarctica
« Reply #244 on: April 18, 2018, 06:41:17 am »

well, after hitting 100% pop growth, this happened:
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Re: Steps to War: A grand strategy game where you can settle Antarctica
« Reply #245 on: April 18, 2018, 06:46:42 am »

Can you do a screen of your expenses with all sliders at 100%, I want to compare costs vs pop see what the difference is if any with so many children.

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Also, now your negative growth overall, and showing a monthly -%. Is any of those pop numbers actually dropping?
« Last Edit: April 18, 2018, 07:47:18 am by Crowe~ »
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Geltor

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Re: Steps to War: A grand strategy game where you can settle Antarctica
« Reply #246 on: April 18, 2018, 09:17:09 am »

Can you do a screen of your expenses with all sliders at 100%, I want to compare costs vs pop see what the difference is if any with so many children.

Edit:
Also, now your negative growth overall, and showing a monthly -%. Is any of those pop numbers actually dropping?
here
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
keep in mind that i believe it scales with population, not by the amount of children; seeing as for some reason, the game still thinks i only have 35% children when they compose about 4/5 of the population

and yeah, the pop numbers are dropping, but my death rate is really low so im losing 200 people per month
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Re: Steps to War: A grand strategy game where you can settle Antarctica
« Reply #247 on: April 19, 2018, 04:37:36 am »

Can you do a screen of your expenses with all sliders at 100%, I want to compare costs vs pop see what the difference is if any with so many children.

Edit:
Also, now your negative growth overall, and showing a monthly -%. Is any of those pop numbers actually dropping?
here
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
keep in mind that i believe it scales with population, not by the amount of children; seeing as for some reason, the game still thinks i only have 35% children when they compose about 4/5 of the population

and yeah, the pop numbers are dropping, but my death rate is really low so im losing 200 people per month

Thanks.
Hmm a quick look and its definately not straight forward either way. You got x2.2+ population of what I got at 126k (21404c/ 52714a / 52352s) but some of the budgets are not that far from mine if maxed, while others bigger. Education is only x1.22, while Gov x1.63, Infra x1.75.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

All my numbers still static except for child growth at the top. The Nation>Overview percentages are wrong my side too, and the map country overview shows percentages that are even more wrong. Unemployment is the same, and Tax base is the same - so imo the actual numbers are right and no pop is changing segments still. Either its none functional or maybe the game started with all child 0yr, adults 18yr, senior 66yr, and its going to take 18 years for that first lot to pop into adulthood...

Which of the pop numbers has started dying off then on your end, the Seniors?
« Last Edit: April 19, 2018, 04:40:41 am by Crowe~ »
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Re: Steps to War: A grand strategy game where you can settle Antarctica
« Reply #248 on: April 19, 2018, 04:58:13 am »

Its for everything...here is what he posted on discord
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[stw] Mark - Today at 5:08 AM
Hi @everyone,

We'd like to thank you for being patient so far! We've got quite a few issues left to fix and want to thank all of you for participating in the beta. We've still got a few weeks ahead of us to fix issues and of course don't hesitate to post any issues you have on the forums (https://council.stepstowar.com/) so we can have a better look at things.

Will be interesting to see what is supposed to happen versus what is actually happening  ::)
I popped onto the discord for a lurk and see what info is being posted didnt see if that guide has be done - didnt look like it, but a lot of banter to pick through, eh...

Dev said you can go bankrupt and gameover apparantly in some screenshot I saw somewhere when i skimmed through it, but elsewhere I saw people being -350bn in debt. Is that another Nope or has no one hit the limit yet. Game uses standard debt agency type rating, I noticed mine dropped to B-, Im still in cash. Maybe when someone hits the default ratings.. What are your guys ratings at with the massive debts I wonder.
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Re: Steps to War: A grand strategy game where you can settle Antarctica
« Reply #249 on: April 19, 2018, 06:55:38 am »

-200b
-110b per day (C grade rating = -10b on interest and corruption is like -44b of that)
Income wise, I raised income taxes.  590m income.
The horrible part is that those are the only taxes that provide any sort of income.  Local trade does nothing, despite taxes and price of goods being set.
Unemployment is hard stuck at 95%, despite the fact that gov't spending should have created thousands of taxable jobs and taken a chunk of that unemployment.
I must be hiring magical foreign workers at premium.
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Re: Steps to War: A grand strategy game where you can settle Antarctica
« Reply #250 on: April 19, 2018, 08:40:47 am »

Would be funny to have a gamer over about being bankrupt when you have no means to be positive in the first place (corruption, security...).

Imo, first thing to correct would be the production + import / export. Right now i'm producing less than 50% of my needs for all, without exception, resources. If places like Europa would have a grain surplus and place like africa metal surplus, at least some trade would be involve.

Right now it is wasteland simulator. Maybe we are indeed playing fallout grand strategy.
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Re: Steps to War: A grand strategy game where you can settle Antarctica
« Reply #251 on: April 19, 2018, 09:03:03 am »

If I had a guess...I assume ALL our problems stem from population.

I think youth and old people are calculated into "unemployed" maybe?

Production is likely tied to available workers

So I imagine...once all our nations of 200k kids and 40k or so adults becomes a nation of 200k adults our tax income and production will skyrocket and all metrics will get better.

Maybe....hopefully? If not then literally nothing in this game works except increasing a few numbers (infrastructure, birth rate, etc)
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« Reply #252 on: April 19, 2018, 09:26:42 am »

Heh, that means we have to wait until at least 1998 to have the 1980 kid to be adults ? I'm not sure i will have this much patience when the game is already getting boring since there is nothing much to do :p
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« Reply #253 on: April 19, 2018, 12:20:38 pm »

I could run a surplus if I dial down some spending more. 8.2bn income currently. (5.1bn minimum expenses at zero funding). For how long, don't know, since costs keep going up, eventually sliders come down to zero without some source of increasing income.

Ive crept the taxes up over last few days no one seems to care of the people working so far. Not sure if I want to crank it up higher, since dont want to hit that mass exidous in employment. When I skimmed discord I saw some guy say he was running 100% taxes, although he didnt mention if that was with the 95% unemployment or not..

Resources, Im not even bothering looking at that screen anymore. Seems random, and even it it is real/related to GDP, there is no way to tax it so it might as well be a shadow economy. Not bothering with upgrades anymore. I will keep the funds to give more time to keep funding some sliders. Since eventually I will try make a stable budget, hold out for those kids to maybe grow up from Never-never-land without a debt burden..

Right about when I succeed with this plan, I will probably get invaded by the hoards of millions of newly grown up adults across the rest of the world, fleeing their debt ridden nations, looking for those few £ I got left...  :o
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Re: Steps to War: A grand strategy game where you can settle Antarctica
« Reply #254 on: April 19, 2018, 01:19:38 pm »

Unemployment: 95%
Poverty: 100%
Population Approval: 100%

Yeah...
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