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[King Zultan]

I don't get why autocorrect accepts those fay and fey but doesn't accept dwarven.

[scriver]

They're in cahoots with Tolkien's editor. They want ut to be dwarfen

[Magmacube_tr]

I just changed my forum email to protonmail. It think it will be more secure. Especially since I am sure they will start weaseling opposition up. Not all of us, but they will probably brands us as terrorists (not that they didn't already), and will make an example from some.

[delphonso]

Been using protonmail for a while, I quite like it.

[Magmacube_tr]

>be me
>open stellaris
>start as a technocracy
>begin expanding
>get fucked by RNG and realise that i am stuck with a dozen systems
>thisgameiswear.jpeg
>realise that the place has four terraforming canidates
>two cavern, two tidally locked barren worlds (i use planetary diversity)
>mfw i remember that i need midgame tech to terraform those
>fuckthatshit.mp4
>painstakingly grind resources while juggling envoys around
>mfw the galaxy is hella xenophobic and all of them want my ass
>finally reach the tech level needed to terraform
>colonise all four at once
>i am now a superpower
>attack my neighbor
>mfw the entire galaxy is on war with me
>holyfuckingshit.gif
>the fuckers have built an galaxy-wide federation and excluded me
>get annihilated

[Rolan7]

If we ruin the surface level ecology of the ocean via overfishing and pollution...

Would that starve out the Old Ones?
There's energy and certain minerals input by the ocean-floor vents, and surely the deep ocean could subsist without additional input for...  I'm going to say a million years, give or take.

But I wonder how long the macrobiology survives once the surface-ocean isn't raining down high-energy nutrients from Sol.

And with strange aeons, even death may die.

[Magmacube_tr]

There will be an extinction event for the pelagic feeders, and scavengers, for sure. But the species that live and subsist on geothermal vents will survive.

[Frumple]

Eh... given enough time, the core cools to the point those vents close off/shut down, too. Iirc the time frame for that's a lot longer out than just a million years, though.

[Egan_BW]

If we're just talking about overfishing and pollution, I think creatures of the deeper oceans would eventually work their way up and colonize the surface level. Especially after we're gone, which will take considerably less time than a million years.

Nature abhors a vacuum. And even a polluted surface is a higher value habitat than the lightless deeps for most species, I'd think.

[lemon10]

Over the long term (many thousands or tens of thousands of years) surface species will evolve that will both be horribly disgusting for us to eat and immune to the pollution on the surface.

If we were actively antagonistic to them we could change up the pollutants every few millennia to stop anything from being able to live there (eg. going from highly acidic dumping->highly basic, changing mass pesticides->mass neurotoxins).


But I don't think we can ever kill all the microbes/plankton in the lighted zone with mere pollution or overfishing, and they should be able to able to act as energy inputs for the lower levels.

[scriver]

Zen Buddhist Nuclear Apocalypse Survivor Cockroach Aliens.

"Let the radiation wash over you, and dissipate. Endure, and your time will come."

[EuchreJack]

Having played Stellaris, it would appear that the Xenophobic Autocratic form of government we favor would indeed be optimal...

[King Zultan]

The best way to save the sea creatures from pollution in the water is pump all the water into space because we can't pollute water that isn't there.

[TD1]

At that point... why not pump the pollutants into space??

[Frumple]

Kessler syndrome on literally toxic steroids may somehow be an even worse idea than flooding the earth's orbit.