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Author Topic: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"  (Read 321484 times)

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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2790 on: January 24, 2025, 01:08:34 pm »

McCreary's was good enough that I had to stop participating awhile for mental health reasons

though I'm not sure if that says more about the forum game or my own brain at the time *shrug*
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2791 on: January 25, 2025, 10:59:07 pm »

McCreary's was good enough that I had to stop participating awhile for mental health reasons

though I'm not sure if that says more about the forum game or my own brain at the time *shrug*

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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2792 on: January 26, 2025, 04:20:45 pm »

Quote from:  State Manual For Government Officials, Case Studies On Handling Trump

Chief of Staff: Mister president, I have an assessment of a military invasion of Greenland, as you requested.

    Trump: Go ahead.

Chief of Staff. Well, sir, mister president, sir... Our military advisors are hesitant, sir. The forces of Greenland are lightly armed, and are expected to retreat into their villages and wage guerilla resistance warfare in small groups. Our forces can't deal with that.. Remember Afghanistan, sir? Think that, but very cold and with polar bears.. Those Greenlanders don't play fair. They don't have dense population centres with presidential palaces we can bomb either.

    Trump: Mean! But maybe, we can then instead invade, what's the name of that fake country owned by Denmark, with all those resources and polar bears?

Chief of Staff: Erm, sir.. That IS Greenland, sir.

    Trump: Nonsense! According to both Facebook and TikTok, Greenland is a state on the northwest side of our country.

Chief of Staff: That is Alaska, s...

    Trump: Those damn Canadians again!

Chief of Staff: Alaska is part of the US, sir.

    Trump: Nooo! What? Since when? Why have I never been told we have a place filled with nature preserves we can drill oil in? Who lied to me?
    That must be what all her emails were about! I want you to arrest Hillary right now!

Chief of Staff: That's not possisble sir, she went to Belgium

    Trump: Who is Belgium?

Chief of Staff: Belgium is a coun... a city in Russia, sir.

    Trump: That backstabbing son of a bitch Putin! We were supposed to be friends! I will show him! I want you to send the best military aid ever to Ukraine right now.

Chief of Staff: Yes, sir, thank you, sir.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2793 on: January 26, 2025, 06:28:57 pm »

Is…is this satire or a real convo? I cannot tell

Anyways, my random thought is is, if Rotom possessed a router or a motem, what type do you think would accompany Electric? If any?

Wonder how many conversations we can have at once?
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2794 on: January 27, 2025, 08:20:08 am »

Is…is this satire or a real convo? I cannot tell

Anyways, my random thought is is, if Rotom possessed a router or a motem, what type do you think would accompany Electric? If any?
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2795 on: February 05, 2025, 08:14:18 pm »

Perhaps the solution to the Fermi paradox is that the poor girl running our universe simulation does not have enough money to afford a computer that can handle more than one sapient species.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2796 on: February 05, 2025, 08:33:42 pm »

Don't think that our brains really require an impressive amount computational power compared to the uncountable number of fully simulated stars, black holes, planets, and various sorts of rocks out there. Unless there's some sleigh of hand at work there, and the universe is actually a lot less detailed than it seems to be to us, but I mean that seems may more complicated for the simulation runner to create than simply making a smaller universe.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2797 on: February 05, 2025, 09:13:50 pm »

I mean, how much of the insanely complicated stuff do we actually see on a daily basis and how difficult is it to do so? Maybe the simulation runner is keeping costs low by only rendering chunks that are actually visible or only making the complicated stuff and large quantities like micro-organisms run when directly observed. Diseases could just be simulated with RNG when not direct observed.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2798 on: February 05, 2025, 09:42:34 pm »

Why simulate when you can just build and let the system evolve?
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2799 on: February 05, 2025, 09:44:55 pm »

So you don't feel as bad when you get bored and delete it.

also waaaaaaaaay less moral culpability for the staggering amounts of suffering
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2800 on: February 06, 2025, 06:21:20 am »

Why would suffering be any less morally suspect if a consciousness is "running" in a computer machine versus "running" in a biological machine?

Isn't society already getting close to that point where it's going to be faced with this dilemma?
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2801 on: February 06, 2025, 02:25:45 pm »

I think what he means is, if you simulated an accurate world and the conscious and aware beings in it made themselves suffer excessively of their own accord, you're not necessarily culpable for all of that. They could have made better decisions, suffered less, but they didn't. If they weren't in a simulated environment, they presumably still would have made the same sub-par decisions and suffered just as much. Additionally, if you're not the one who coded the simulation, youre not necessarily culpable at all except for how you interfere with it and the fact you ran it and allowwd it to run. It's Toady's fault the dwarven women carry their children into battle, I had no idea i had a married woman with child in my militia.

If you put the world together and described the actors in it piece by piece and chose their suffering for them, you would be fully culpable for it.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2802 on: February 07, 2025, 12:31:44 am »

I mean, what counts as consciousness in a simulation? There's really no way to know what traits give something a consciousness.
My own thoughts on this are that consciousness comes from self-awareness

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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2803 on: February 17, 2025, 01:08:11 pm »

I mean, what counts as consciousness in a simulation? There's really no way to know what traits give something a consciousness.
My own thoughts on this are that consciousness comes from self-awareness

Does the consciousness need to be aware it's in a simulation to count?
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2804 on: February 17, 2025, 01:18:03 pm »

I mean, what counts as consciousness in a simulation? There's really no way to know what traits give something a consciousness.
My own thoughts on this are that consciousness comes from self-awareness

Does the consciousness need to be aware it's in a simulation to count?
I would definitely feel worse for it if it did.
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