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[Maul_Junior]

This is a stability patch for the last release. A few raid-related crashes are fixed, as well as some strange behavior related to stolen livestock. To get the full fix for stolen livestock, old saves will need to add [PET] to beak dogs and unicorns.

so......you can now get unicorns even if you're NOT in a peaceful/blue biome?

this changes everything.

Or, rather, changes my strategy with elves. Instead of waiting for their caravan, I can now send raiding parties (aided with legends mode) to get some bad-ass animals.

[Egan_BW]

I'm sure this will assist these upper boards in their irrational love of slaughtering elves. Now that you can get badass tame animals without tolerating elven traders.

[Dunamisdeos]

Don't give me that, slaughtering elves is the most rational thing since sliced socks.

[Egan_BW]

It's literally a meme about hating a specific subspecies of human and wanting to kill them all until there are none left, for no reason other than that they're different from yourself and "annoying". It's disturbing, okay?

[Dunamisdeos]

If they don't want to be killed, they shouldn't be made out of arrogance and desirable loot.

[Cathar]

Elves are an invasive and aggressive specy, and it's not like they have anything against brutal murder themselves... Tho I agree I find the will to exterminate or kill anything, without reason and for the hell of it deeply disturbing. Everytime I see some of that on the forum I find myself asking why would anyone do that.

I mean, elves are coming to your place shitting on your plump helmets and asking you stop cutting trees, you send them home in a mastercraft wood box okay, but what is the point in keep hitting them once they caved in?

[Orkel]

The elves will happily devour their enemies' corpses while prancing about their peace and nature.

[Dunamisdeos]

Well hey, let's be fair, I don't kill elves on sight. I'm not a bad GUY.

I wait for them to inevitably demand that I stop minding my own business in my own territory that they were not invited into, and for them to demand that I start respecting the rules of their tree religion beliefs or else they will make me. Only THEN do I capture and lock them away for various science experiments, or maybe drop them into a crocodile pit (Or, in one notable instance, drop a crocodile pit on them).

I wholeheartedly support the idea of raiding legitimate elven targets for animals.

[Shonai_Dweller]

Well hey, let's be fair, I don't kill elves on sight. I'm not a bad GUY.

I wait for them to inevitably demand that I stop minding my own business in my own territory that they were not invited into, and for them to demand that I start respecting the rules of their tree religion beliefs or else they will make me. Only THEN do I capture and lock them away for various science experiments, or maybe drop them into a crocodile pit (Or, in one notable instance, drop a crocodile pit on them).

I wholeheartedly support the idea of raiding legitimate elven targets for animals.

You know they're just looking out for your spiritual well-being.
Or at least, you will the moment vengeful ents are back in the game.

[Dunamisdeos]

I recently weaponized a FB that I made into a husk. I laugh at the most ancient representations of primal nature before I twist them into a horrific engine of science-based annihilation. The organic ones can kill legendary +5 military dwarves.

They may bring their silly tree-men to my gates at their leisure.

Go raid you some bears, OP.

[Anandar]

Its not my fault someone created a fantasy world generating simulator game in which i am capable of and choose to cause the genocide of an entire (fictional) race... lets be honest dwarves and elves have hated each other for longer than humans have existed, and its not elf fortress now is it?

[Egan_BW]

Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who's actually checked what entity_default.txt says about dwarven ethics. Dwarves are dutiful enough to kill people you tell them to kill, put traps where you tell them to put traps, move cages containing creatures, pull levers... but that doesn't mean they actually approve of the terrible things you have them do.

[Magistrum]

Maybe they are going by Warhammer dwarves, so they have to repay every single slight in the grudge list to the very end.

(Sidenote: Dwarves or Dwarfs? I mean, computer wants dwarfs but I refuse to accept it.)

[Egan_BW]

Dwarves are similar to humans, but a little smaller. The males have beards They value order and crafts. They consider (surface) nature to be a little disturbing. They really hate slavery and torture and eating people.
Elves are similar to humans, but a little smaller. The males have beards. They really really like nature. They dislike slavery and torture, except as an example. They consider killing plants to be unthinkable, and only kill animals in self-defense. They dislike eating people in general, but will sometimes go into a frenzy and eat people that they've killed anyway.

They're pretty different, but they're not mortal enemies.

[Lord Shiteblast]

Its not my fault someone created a fantasy world generating simulator game in which i am capable of and choose to cause the genocide of an entire (fictional) race... lets be honest dwarves and elves have hated each other for longer than humans have existed, and its not elf fortress now is it?

QFT.

Dwarf Fortress proves that Dwarves are the supreme beings. You can play a human fortress if you like, but ultimately the greatest fortresses are Dwarven. The greatest megaprojects are Dwarven. It is Dwarves that shape the land and strike the earth.

Dwarves are supreme for one principal reason - they carry out the divine Will of Armok. It is Armok that creates and reforms the worlds as He sees fit. It is Armok that guides the hand of every Overseer. It is the Will of Armok that Elves must suffer for their arrogance and it is the Dwarves that carry out His Will.