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Re: Merperson adventurer?
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2018, 03:48:42 pm »

I wonder, is it possible to get ambushed in the ocean?

People should add whatever tags let creatures ambush you to giant sperm whales, and enjoy the fun.  :D
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2018, 05:06:20 pm »

I suppose oceans aren't entirely deficit of fun. You can always.... explore the caverns beneath an ocean. Speaking of which, I would enjoy if there were aquatic caves and even completely aquatic cave biomes. I suppose you can always drain an aquifer into a cave and create one yourself, but it isn't quite the same.
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2018, 05:24:58 pm »

I wonder, is it possible to get ambushed in the ocean?

People should add whatever tags let creatures ambush you to giant sperm whales, and enjoy the fun.  :D
Sharks have large_predator which should make them ambush ocean roaming adventurers.
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2018, 05:53:07 pm »

Give large predator to giant sperm whales. I remember conducting arena tests that showed zombie giant sperm whales were about as strong as bronze colossi, so such an ambush by a normal whale would serve as a sort of lesser boss fight for aspiring adventurers.
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2018, 05:56:36 pm »

Is it even possible to be ambushed if you aren't quick-traveling? Because my understanding is you can't quick-travel while swimming  ;D
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2018, 06:02:11 pm »

Is it even possible to be ambushed if you aren't quick-traveling? Because my understanding is you can't quick-travel while swimming  ;D
It doesn't give you the ambush message, but yes. Unfortunately, the ambush system doesn't really work for oceans since the gray asterisks aren't designed to cross large bodies of water, and thus never appear for aquatic predators.
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2018, 11:49:38 pm »

Sirens are merfolk. But they have wings instead of arms in DF.
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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2018, 09:11:55 pm »

Sirens are merfolk. But they have wings instead of arms in DF.
Sirens aren't in vanilla. You're thinking of harpies.
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2018, 09:59:55 pm »

In theory shark and whale cruise on the ocean, but I saw nothing in the vast blue the last time my vampire dwarf crossed a strait between two lands. There was nothing on the sea bed, either.
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« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2018, 07:08:36 am »

I hope Toady rewrites all the pathing/fast travel stuff to be less walking-centric sometime soon. 
We'll probably have to wait till the economy arc makes boats relevant.
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« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2018, 07:57:38 am »

I hope Toady rewrites all the pathing/fast travel stuff to be less walking-centric sometime soon. 
We'll probably have to wait till the economy arc makes boats relevant.
Boats is coming before economy right now (more fun).
Subject to change over the many years between now and then of course.

In the meantime, short-term pre-magic dev notes (i.e within the next 6 months) says "adventurer mounts". So that's a start.
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« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2018, 08:04:43 am »

>Mounts
Oh god yes. YES. All of my yes.

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That said, maybe we can just tame giant alligators/capybaras and just go ride the waves, who need boats to begin with?

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« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2018, 01:21:59 pm »

That said, maybe we can just tame giant alligators/capybaras and just go ride the waves, who need boats to begin with?
Aquatic mounts have the problem that they drown their riders, so that will have to be fixed before we can do that.
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« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2018, 05:46:23 pm »

That said, maybe we can just tame giant alligators/capybaras and just go ride the waves, who need boats to begin with?
Aquatic mounts have the problem that they drown their riders, so that will have to be fixed before we can do that.
But this is not exactly unrealistic. Try riding an alligator across the sea and see how long you last...
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« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2018, 08:04:15 pm »

I believe this is due to the animal swimming under the sea level as opposed as on surface. If you can control the beast it should be no  problem
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