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[Maximum Spin]

I'm not sure about the vacuoles, we don't even a nucleus nor proper cells organells so i don't see their utility. We don't have a single part of the cell we must protect, it's all floating in the citosol. The idea of moleculars markers is interesting, but i'm not sure we have the capability of producing more enzymes. I was under the impression we had reached a limit based on our trascription and traduction speed, not the possibility of self-damage. If i'm mistaken and we can produce more if we learn to do it safely then let's go with your idea.

To clarify, the point of the vacuoles is to use them to eject exonuclease into the local environment. Since the cells apparently mostly hang around the same area, this would do a reasonably good job keeping the viroid population down. And yes, I'm also not sure whether we need to upgrade our translation processes, but I thought it would be a good idea to develop ways to not damage ourselves first.

[kopout]

The way I understand it is that we currently use our main RNA loop as both genome and enzyme which cuts down on our protein synthesis capability. What I was proposing was the formation of small purely protein synthesizing RNA units akin to ribosomes.

If that's still to complex then I'll switch to  try and make the big step, from RNA to DNA.

[Leonardo8]

To clarify, the point of the vacuoles is to use them to eject exonuclease into the local environment. Since the cells apparently mostly hang around the same area, this would do a reasonably good job keeping the viroid population down. And yes, I'm also not sure whether we need to upgrade our translation processes, but I thought it would be a good idea to develop ways to not damage ourselves first.

I'm not sure if we can actually produce enough stuff to kill viroids outside the cell, it would be a lot of energy we have to use for a minimal result since any enzymes we eject would probably be diluited and then washed away immeadetly. If we were already a colonial organism this could work, but since we just hang out in the general area i don't think it's a good idea to do so.

[Maximum Spin]

If we were already a colonial organism this could work

Well, that was the first thing I suggested.

The way I understand it is that we currently use our main RNA loop as both genome and enzyme which cuts down on our protein synthesis capability. What I was proposing was the formation of small purely protein synthesizing RNA units akin to ribosomes.

Shit, are we still just a ribozyme? If so, yeah, develop ribosomes immediately. We should do that *before* making the leap to DNA, in fact.

[Leonardo8]

The way I understand it is that we currently use our main RNA loop as both genome and enzyme which cuts down on our protein synthesis capability. What I was proposing was the formation of small purely protein synthesizing RNA units akin to ribosomes.

Shit, are we still just a ribozyme? If so, yeah, develop ribosomes immediately. We should do that *before* making the leap to DNA, in fact.

Ok, i did not understand how "basic" was "basic protein syntesis". In this case, +1

[Icefire2314]

If we were already a colonial organism this could work

Well, that was the first thing I suggested.

The way I understand it is that we currently use our main RNA loop as both genome and enzyme which cuts down on our protein synthesis capability. What I was proposing was the formation of small purely protein synthesizing RNA units akin to ribosomes.

Shit, are we still just a ribozyme? If so, yeah, develop ribosomes immediately. We should do that *before* making the leap to DNA, in fact.

Oh I thought you were suggesting we go straight from RNA prokaryotes to multicellular XD

[Leonardo8]

Competition can be overcome by numbers. Develop the ability to form colonies

[Icefire2314]

Competition can be overcome by numbers. Develop the ability to form colonies

+1, develop a protein that allows cell membranes to stick together.

[Maximum Spin]

+1 for sticky filaments to hold the cells together in a cluster, oddly enough.

[Rockeater]

Competition can be overcome by numbers. Develop the ability to form colonies

+1, develop a protein that allows cell membranes to stick together.

+1

[King Zultan]

Competition can be overcome by numbers. Develop the ability to form colonies

+1, develop a protein that allows cell membranes to stick together.

+1

+1

[Icefire2314]

Could we rename it later if we decide it doesn't fit? Kinda hard to tell at the cellular stage

Also I propose for the action we attempt to evolve our RNA to DNA

[Maximum Spin]

I don't really think we need a name yet.

Develop the ability to form vacuoles full of chemicals to pump out of the cell to adjust our environment as we see fit.

[Icefire2314]

I don't really think we need a name yet.

Develop the ability to form vacuoles full of chemicals to pump out of the cell to adjust our environment as we see fit.

I can get behind this +1, ignore my old one we don't immediately need DNA

[Rockeater]

I don't really think we need a name yet.

Develop the ability to form vacuoles full of chemicals to pump out of the cell to adjust our environment as we see fit.

I can get behind this +1, ignore my old one we don't immediately need DNA

+1