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[PatrikLundell]

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2. Does the computer-controlled dwarves breaking into hell mean that they get access to adamantine? If they do, how is this handled, considering fortress mode wagons have a seemingly endless supply of all kinds of metals, and I have a hard time imagining players should get access to adamantine without the risk of mining it themselves?
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4. Do elves eat the undead? Or, rather, the dead undead that they have just killed?

2. The current logic for material access decides what resources a civ gets access to based on what's available in the immediate vicinity of the starting Mountain Hall, and does not include adamantine currently. I'd expect dynamic resource access to be introduced at or after the introduction of an economy (and derived metal access may become based on access to the source metals as well).
4. Dorfs butcher and eat undead, so I see no reason elves wouldn't. Given that the corpses of undead formed from former sapients aren't considered corpses of sapients currently (they go into the refuse stockpile rather than the corpse one and don't scare people, as well as being subject to a burial eternal hauling bug for those raised from citizens and residents) elves may not consider them to be sapient foes worthy of being devoured, though. I wonder what the status of the corpse of an intelligent undead will be, though...

[Shonai_Dweller]

If adamantine mining is now a thing (and why else would dorfs dig too deep?), stands to reason something has been done to current systems to deal with it's existence in worldgen.

Seems there's a chance of dwarf survivors too, otherwise I'd say just give it all to the clowns.

[FantasticDorf]

2. The current logic for material access decides what resources a civ gets access to based on what's available in the immediate vicinity of the starting Mountain Hall, and does not include adamantine currently. I'd expect dynamic resource access to be introduced at or after the introduction of an economy (and derived metal access may become based on access to the source metals as well).

Company warehouses of ye'olde Amazon obtaining materials such as draltha leather (in devlog), or indeed Adamantine from a soon to be doomed deeply dug fortress through trade might power forward other things. Naturally if the guilds bulk buy admantine from company stock, work it and then sell it to very successful & rich mercenaries for a profit margin as personal gear or to town shop vendors/wagon merchants the system will have been working perfectly.

But that's just speculative as we don't super know if a primary-secondary-tertiary chain like that exists, only their supposed broad roles and the guilds haven't nessecarily had a proper devlog to explain, perhaps still forthcoming or it's on the backburner for explicit detail.

Toady, do enemy civs ally together in response to player aggressiveness trying to scoop up settlements forcefully to eventually reach nobility targets like baron, duke and count? it seems like it'd be either too much of a deterrant going that path or a easy way to incur fun if you are the percieved world ending threat of a conquerer.

[voliol]

Toady, do enemy civs ally together in response to player aggressiveness trying to scoop up settlements forcefully to eventually reach nobility targets like baron, duke and count? it seems like it'd be either too much of a deterrant going that path or a easy way to incur fun if you are the percieved world ending threat of a conquerer.

To cite the latest devpost: "[alliances will be formed against] the more evil threats (any group that requires the killing of neutrals, like gobs and the undead)". This is probably about the entity ethics, as defined by the raws (or possibly hardcoded in the case of necromancers). As that there should be no framework for the game to guess the ethics of the player-controlled fortresses, they should default to being the same as the parent civ/entity, and thus the other civilizations shouldn't be able to detect any plans of world domination, unless your parent civ has the necessary ethic tokens. Attacking sites of different civs will still lead to all of them attacking you separately, though.

[therahedwig]

I guess anything more advanced than that will require the entity-ai to be a bit smarter so it can make strategic decisions like 'do I dislike raising the undead more than I dislike war-throphies?' and 'do I have any important trade deals with the zombie infested tower that I'll endanger with this alliance?'

Still if it works to make sure not all worlds become overrun with evil

It's kind of nice to see the other evil stuff fleshed out a little, so we'll have game-generated history behind whether or not dorfs know about the underworld. Or something else to do for mummies beyond getting awoken randomly and then running over the green hills cursing things.

For the new demons creating new goblin civs, is it planned to have that happen in post worldgen background sim as well. That is, if a player fort fails due breaching hell, will we see the consequences once we have a new fort, or will this be a bit too much for this release?

[Death Dragon]

Not sure if one of these has been asked already:

You said the new intelligent zombie can "can retain much of their old identity". What part of their old personality is missing exactly? Their memories and relationships?

Can necromancers revive intelligent beings as a "good" deed? (For example, reuniting old family members or helping with a murder case.) Or is that more of a magic update thing and beyond the scope of the current update?

Can a mummy be appeased by delivering the lost artifact back to it?

[thvaz]

It would be nice if Toady spent some time improving vampires and werecreatures this cycle. Werecreatures are particularly problematic, as they just flee towns and rampage at full moons, doing nothing and being no menace or challenge while at normal form.

[PlumpHelmetMan]

He's already hinted at vampires at least being a candidate, so I'm optimistic about there being some improvements.

[therahedwig]

Well, vampires can now promise vampirism, right? And they already did culty stuff in adventure mode, though I've never come across a vampire cult in the recent version, and according to posts on the adventure mode forum the inclusion of worldgen inquisitions to ensure big towns would be a thing has made them a lot rarer. So maybe they'll be a bit bigger this time around, together with the proper cults

[PlumpHelmetMan]

Of course, it's a bit more difficult to predict what'll be done with werebeasts this cycle (if anything). I certainly hope there'll be some work done at least.

[thvaz]

It is a pity Toady never got around to implement all the undeads he had planned back when he did vampires, werewolves, night trolls, mummies and ghosts. There was some really cool ones, like revenants.

[EternalCaveDragon]

Going off of the latest dev log, would it be correct to assume that forming alliances as a response to a particularly evil threat will also occur in response to modded in entities that fit that criteria as well? I do hope it is, it'd immerse modded in entities much more into modded worlds if they can interact just like the vanilla entities can with the new update.

[voliol]

It is a pity Toady never got around to implement all the undeads he had planned back when he did vampires, werewolves, night trolls, mummies and ghosts. There was some really cool ones, like revenants.

*hasn't yet gotten around - remember the myths&magics update comes right after the big wait, and even if they aren't all included in that they have a chance of being implemented alongside tangentially related features, like the upcoming intelligent undead.

[Shonai_Dweller]

Going off of the latest dev log, would it be correct to assume that forming alliances as a response to a particularly evil threat will also occur in response to modded in entities that fit that criteria as well? I do hope it is, it'd immerse modded in entities much more into modded worlds if they can interact just like the vanilla entities can with the new update.

Devblog implies it's an alliance against any runaway Ethic:Kill_Neutral:Required civ. Should be easy enough to apply to mods.
(Although a little limiting. Means it may not be possible to see alliances against runaway "won't kill you on-sight, but still wants to take over the world" civs).

[Bimbus]

With the Dwarves being able to breach the Underworld, will Adamantite finally be used in worldgen?