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[Kamdiere]

So, I added a venom to monitor lizards, because they have them and why not make those bastards even scarier? Maybe I should give them wings and a venom cloud breath attack...

I gave them a necrotic venom (below) with low severity and long duration, though upon further research, it appears their venom also causes a measure of pain (and bleeding, but necrosis covers that, supposedly). Not extreme, but far from pleasant. So, what sort of severity should that pain have? I have no idea and am having a hard time finding a measuring-stick for pain units.

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   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:VENOM:CREATURE_EXTRACT_TEMPLATE]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:frozen monitor venom]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen monitor venom]
      [STATE_NAME:LIQUID:monitor venom]
      [STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:monitorr venom]
      [STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling monitor venom]
      [STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling monitor venom]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [ENTERS_BLOOD]
      [SYNDROME]
         [SYN_NAME:monitor lizard bite]
         [SYN_AFFECTED_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
         [SYN_IMMUNE_CREATURE:MONITOR_LIZARD:ALL]
         [SYN_INJECTED]
         [CE_NECROSIS:SEV:75:PROB:100:LOCALIZED:VASCULAR_ONLY:RESISTABLE:START:50:PEAK:1000:END:10000]

Also, necrosis on the low end is indicated by gouting, right?

[Enemy post]

Is it possible the pain isn't coming from the venom, but rather just the lizard bite itself?

[scamtank]

uhm

I've got it on fair authority that "gouting" is a horrifying rate of bleeding for anything around human-sized

usually only achieved by torn jugulars

[Kamdiere]

Nah the venom makes the pain associated with the bite worse. It's like being bit two or three times at once in the same spot best I can tell.

As for gouting... huh, I put that condition on a few body parts of this damn clown recently with a monitor lizard man. Most things don't survive long enough to experience the necrosis, but this clown. I bit him early on once or twice and was scouring his descriptions and such for anything that might indicate necrosis. I had to !!SPARTA!! him repeatedly (5 times down 4 z levels)) to kill him. Also the clown was gigantic.

Checked the definitions of 'gout'. It can mean either the disease which is kinda similar to necrosis (plus other uncomfortable things) or a lot of stuff getting shot out, usually in a stream. Like blood or fire. I guess it's good for the guy not dealing with it in either case.

[scamtank]

I checked the string dump to be sure, got a little confused by how "gouting" was listed right after all the adjectives for swelling and away from the bleeding terms, kicked up arena mode and chopped a giant's throat open to see for sure.



And major arteries scale their, uh, output to creature size to make sure that a ripped aorta kills just about anything in a few turns no matter what. I'm sure now, this is the biggest descriptor for open blood loss the game knows.

[Kamdiere]

I see, good to know, thanks.

Well, here's the meat of the syndrome I've put together for the monitor lizard venom.

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      [SYNDROME]
         [SYN_NAME:monitor lizard bite]
         [SYN_AFFECTED_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
         [SYN_IMMUNE_CREATURE:MONITOR_LIZARD:ALL]
         [SYN_INJECTED]
         [CE_NECROSIS:SEV:75:PROB:100:LOCALIZED:VASCULAR_ONLY:RESISTABLE:START:10:PEAK:100:END:10000]
         [CE_PAIN:SEV:50:PROB:100:LOCALIZED:VASCULAR_ONLY:RESISTABLE:ABRUPT:START:0:PEAK:100:END:10000]

Errors or goofs? Numbers low or high? Aiming for a slow rotting of flesh that isn't likely to be important in most fights and an also minor, though very unpleasant, pain associated with the bite.