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[piecewise]

Doing a test on IRC tonight of a basic proof of concept of tactical breach wizards.

irc://irc.darkmyst.org/#einsteinianroulette, For those that don't know.

I've basically just filled out a few classes and set it up as a standard Tactical game to see how that handles. If it works I'll make the options available more...soft, to make it more RPG like.

[piecewise]

I've cobbled together a system for space dogfights. Testing it tonight in IRC.

[syvarris]

You should really link the doc in-thread, rather than in IRC, so people can read and prepare in advance.

Maybe also mention the tests earlier in advance, since that'll get more people than just us IRC lurkers.

[Caellath]

Yeah, I don't even visit IRC anymore because Discord is my new hiding place.

Maybe piecewise should create a Bonezone Discord for all things piecewise and skeleton porn. Those kind of mingle together.

[Ozarck]

Fun fact, 'porn' comes from the Greek word meaning 'flesh.' SO you just suggested PW should "put some clothes on."

[Devastator]

Aww.. I wouldn't get to chat with a discord channel, as I don't want stuff I talk about with you guys to be linked to me and logged permanently.

[syvarris]

https://abbradar.net/erlogs/

That said Discord is annoying and inferior to IRC.  It puts far too much into cosmetics and convenience rather than effectiveness.

[Imic]

Watches

[Caellath]

I do like the inherent chat logging, voice chat (which I actually use now and then), several channels per server, pining, etc. Its convenience won me over.

[Devastator]

There are multiple channels per server for IRC, and you can log chats all you want locally.  There's also ping functionality available for most clients.

I can understand using Discord, but it's not better.  Just more popular.

[Caellath]

Multiple channels for a single server as in you can have a "piecewise" server and a channel for each of his games and one for shitposting, one for music and so on. And I said "pining", not pinging.

I said it's convenient. Your standard-issue knee-jerk reaction could've used some more thought this time, Dev.

[Devastator]

Yeah.. that's kinda what I meant.  You can be in as many channels as you like.  No reason you can't have a seperate channel for PW's games, or music links, or whatever on IRC.  We did that when we watched Madoka Magica, for instance.  You can also join and leave them seperately and independantly, as well as create new ones on the fly.  And the chat history can show more than a few dozen lines at once, with high-speed scrolling instead of brief pauses every time it loads a new 'page' of comments.  Sure, Discord has infinite logging, but the format of such logs is nearly unusable, except by machine.

Really, Cael, it's just as knee-jerk to say it's less convenient than for me to say it's annoying and less capable.  They both have some truth but are very subjective.  The biggest difference seems to be that Discord is intended to be a lifestyle, wheras IRC is simply a tool.  One demands me to do everything exactly the way Discord wants me to do so, with dedicated logons, fixed nicknames, links to phones and Steam monitoring, fixed channels, external logs and servers, minimal customization, etcetera... while IRC is simply a tool there for me to use as I choose.  It doesn't ask me to do anything that I haven't chosen to do.

At the end of the day, the reason to use Discord has nothing to do with the quality of the program.  It's because Discord users will use nothing else, so I must use their program.  As it is, I find it acceptable if not good, but it could be a malware-ridden piece of trash, and I'd be just as forced into using it.

(Also, I can't stream on Discord.  It sucks too much bandwidth and adversely affects the quality of the stream.)

[Egan_BW]

This is one of those few things I agree with Dev on.

[Tiruin]

I don't understand what the commotion about discord is about I've been using it because it's more stable than IRC--and I can shut down all avatars and other graphics (thumbnails from links and otherwise too) all through just peeking at the settings, and have it operate at indistinctly the same bandwidth as I've been with IRC, with the comparison being lacking frustration from having everything I write being deleted due to bad internet, and that I'm not forced at all to do anything...err, that you mentioned there Devastator. Perhaps it's the default functions that push people away, with it looking all fancy with all the colors and avatars and otherwise?

I don't see how there's any 'demand' from any of those though, when there is a choice for each and everything you mentioned--the settings has a vast array of options that I've customized for my use, and it's far less than a lifestyle than I think you think. It's just as much a tool as IRC; it's a better tool, from as much experience as I've had--just because it is flexible to accommodate many other devices, platforms, or options, doesn't make it a lifestyle. These are all options that you can opt out of freely. And, as a tool itself, it has saved me a lot of information exchange and communicating with others because of its utility and flexibility of function. That's coming from one whose 'best' internet is everyone else's worst.

As it is, I find it acceptable if not good, but it could be a malware-ridden piece of trash, and I'd be just as forced into using it.

You can also easily change your name just like IRC. And no, it's not a malware-ridden piece of trash.
Part of me feels like part of your frustration is because of the perspective on these new things being shoved in. ._. Or everyone hopping onto it? I don't see how there's some degree of being forced to do or use things.

Anyway, what's the news Piece?

Edoot: I forgot to mention--you can make bots that LINK IRC and DISCORD. So...yeah. Either/or.

[Empiricist]

I'd be down for a Bonezone Discord, though I'm also fine with IRC he says, forgetting yet again to log onto IRC. Though then again I act like a coked-up jackass in Discord, so...

Also yes as a Discord user (wow that sounds way too similar to "meth user"), the inbuilt logging is pretty bad compared to the chatlogs generated for IRC.

As for the people hopping onto it, I do see Discord channels being more frequent and more closely integrated in some of the FG&RP threads, though my sample size right now isn't quite the best, what with it being limited to a game wherein japanese teenagers try to gouge the cholesterol out a patient's heart with a spear and the games that use the derivatives of its combat system.