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[Taricus]

Technically we are doubling the amount of people we can kill by grabbing all that artillery at the start. Nothing like dumping a few hundred shells to cause casualties.

[piratejoe]

Well, we will once we are done with our mobilization which will basically be doubled if we sink 10 points into it or so, then we can not only bury them in corpses but be tough enough to dig ourselves out of theirs at the same time...if we balance things anyway. If we aren't careful though, we will just end up with nothing more then a wave after wave of soldiers like what they are probably going to go. Speaking of, if they keep spending all their political power on soldiers, they will have 300 thousand by the time the war starts, and they already have 100 thousand. So, if they spend another five points on recruitment, well...we know their tactic and we might want to do something about that. There is only so many men our men can be buried under before they are crushed...

[Kashyyk]

I'm concerned with their USSR tactic. if they keep as they are going, they'll have fielded 300,000 soldiers by the start of the war, compared to our 180,000+.

A 3:2 numerical advantage will be impossible to beat on the assault. It's just a good thing that defending is easier. I'd like to have each of Taricus' field artillery divisions using heavy artillery to support the infantry divisions light guns. A variety should keep us more flexible, which we'll need to be against those odds.

Following that, we actually have 28 spare light gun batteries. Enough to support a division and a half!

16 Batteries (4,000 men) start training as Heavy Gunners
- 2,400 Tons for the guns

27 Battalions (27,000 men) start training as Regulars
- 270 tons for Infantry Equipment
- 270 tons for Trench Armour

Total Cost: 31,000/33,000 2,940/2,974.998 Tons

[Taricus]

The problem is that heavy artillery is just not worth the steel cost for what it gives. The more light guns we have available at the start the quicker we'll be able to diminish their forces.

[Doomblade187]

Okay, we need to do some proper math on the odds/power per soldier between armies. Also, we must assume that they will force us to attack by going to a real point in our defense line.

[Aigre Excalibur]

(Ye still need a consensus for pp expenditure)

[Doomblade187]

3 PP Recruit, 2 PP mobilize: (1) Doomblade
Training TBD

[piratejoe]

3 PP Recruit, 2 PP mobilize: (2) Doomblade, Piratejoe
Training TBD

Just remember we need to spend some political power next turn for steel. Also, I am worried about our troop numbers, and despite the fact I want as much mobilization as possible, I also want the Netherlands backing us...Still, this is probably our best bet in terms of political power expenditure. Also, just going on the top of my head, digging in is our best bet, just cover the flank that is Belgium just in case and so long as we are dug in and not flanked, we should be safe from their mass assaults as I expect them to just push men out the door as quickly as possible. Besides, our men should have a +1 to hit them with their bright red trousers and blue coats that makes them stick out like a red rose in a white rose bush.

[Kashyyk]

Okay, have some maths.

When we defend, they will be hitting 1/6 of the time, and will need to hit three times to kill. We will be hitting back half the time, and need two hits to kill. This means we will average one kill every four shots while they'll have one kill every two hundred and sixteen. So that's a ratio of 54:1 in our favour. We can handle that.

When we assault, we will be killing 1/36 of the time, whilst they will be killing 1/8 of the time, for a ratio of 2:9 in their favour.

These assume we have trench armour and they don't, whilst both sides are charging between trenches rather than advancing cautiously.

If they also have trench armour, the kill ratio is 27:1 in favour of the defender.

If they are morons and going for unarmoured militia instead, the battle skews, with 108:1 in our favour when defending, and 4:3 in our favour on the assault.

So, this is quickly going to be a game of amassing reserves for a heavy push. They have slightly more reserves, but if my assumptions are correct our men will perform better.

[Madman198237]

The biggest concern, of course, now becomes mobility. If our (hopefully kinda) mobile artillery reserve is Heavy, it's going to move relatively slowly. Furthermore, we ourselves are going to move very slowly, because every single infantryman is only a Regular and wearing armor. This is not a great combination, but so long as we are proactive in reacting to possible breaking points and/or have shortcuts between positions we're defending (i.e., they can't just fake an attack, watch us commit reserves, and then swing around to another flank entirely while we slowly march to catch up).

[Kashyyk]

As our infantry have more staying power than theirs, we should naturally be more resistant to breakthroughs, and as they are regulars they are just as skilled as anything Marseille can field.

If Marseille goes for armoured infantry as well, we'll be the same speed as them again so I'm not concerned.

Edit: Apparently light artillery have been buffed a little since I last looked. They used to have three attack dice, but now have five. Considering that, I'm very happy to drop the argument for heavy artillery.

8 Batteries (2,000 men) start training as Light Gunners
- 400 Tons for the guns

31 Battalions (31,000 men) start training as Regulars
- 310 tons for Infantry Equipment
- 310 tons for Trench Armour

Total Cost: 33,000/33,000 1020/2,974.998 Tons

[Madman198237]

Personally, I'd prefer to max out artillery rather than manpower, just because we're lacking killing power, not staying power.

[Kashyyk]

This plan provides an extra artillery division per korps, fills out the remaining infantry, and starts on an additional korps.

32 Batteries (8,000 men) start training as Light Gunners
- 1,600 tons for the guns

25 Battalions (25,000 men) start training as Regulars
- 250 tons for Infantry Equipment
- 250 tons for Trench Armour

Total Cost: 33,000/33,000 men 2,120/2,974.998 Tons

This version fills out the final infantry division in 2^nd Korps, then spams artillery.

8 Battalions (8,000 men) start training as Regulars
- 80 tons for infantry Equipment
- 80 tons for Trench Armour

56 Batteries (14,000 men) start training as Light Gunners
- 2,800 tons for the guns

Total Cost: 22,000/33,000 men 2,960/2,974.998 Tons

[Doomblade187]

I propose a few groups of unarmored regular to veteran infantry as a fast-attack force. It would help us respond to breakthroughs faster and take advantage of weak points in their line.

Also, we can afford to train veterans now as opposed to building them to veteran in field. I propose we name these divisions the Panzer Corp.

[Aigre Excalibur]

Now you have 3 different versions of production schedule? Shall I just pick the latest one?

I would be careful about the staying power. The frontage of a battalion is about 1 km, it can stretch to about 2+  but anything further and it becomes hard for it to coordinate its companies. The maximum range that you can reach out and touch someone is also 1 km...