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martinuzz

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hatch cover questions
« on: January 12, 2018, 08:50:04 am »

1) Will creatures path over hatch covers over an empty space when they're closed?
2) Do hatch covers have similar operation weight restrictions as bridges (as in: a giant elephant on top of it will make pulling the lever do nothing)?

I want to make a artefact statue trap with a 1z drop onto webbed traps, and was thinking of using hatch covers as a means of dropping FB down.
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Re: hatch cover questions
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2018, 09:37:56 am »

1. I think hatch covers can be pathed over at least when closed and when manually operated. I don't know about the mechanically opened position, but suspect it can be crossed then as well.
2. I believe it will just allow passage downwards, not open a trap door, in which case the critter wouldn't fall.

I'd consider a gremlin trap like setup instead, i.e. a support where you intended the cate trap to go with a floor on top, where the hatch was to go. The floor surrounded by a single tile wide rim of drawbridges, and 8 web prepared cage traps surrounding the support on the level below. Hook the lever up to the support rather than the hatch.
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Re: hatch cover questions
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2018, 11:19:51 am »

Quote from: df wiki
A dwarf standing on a floor hatch over stairs will not start falling if the hatch is opened. A dwarf standing on a floor hatch above a ramp or open space will start falling if the hatch is opened.

Well if the wiki is right, hatches are the option that requires less effort
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Re: hatch cover questions
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2018, 11:48:17 am »

The wiki's most likely correct and I'm wrong...

However, I just realized a fatal flaw in your setup: the building destroyer would destroy the hatch first, and then fail to get at the artifact since there's now a hole in the way...
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Re: hatch cover questions
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2018, 01:40:53 pm »

Doesn't linking it to a lever make it indestructible?
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Re: hatch cover questions
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2018, 02:24:41 pm »

I want to make a artefact statue trap with a 1z drop onto webbed traps, and was thinking of using hatch covers as a means of dropping FB down.

The drop is unnecessary. If you put the webbed trap in a one-tile hallway two tiles in front of the statue then you will catch almost everything your setup could have (dwarves on web collection jobs are the only exception I'm aware of) plus non-web-immune flying baddies too. You can even drop the webs in from above.


Doesn't linking it to a lever make it indestructible?

Nope.
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