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Draxis

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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #420 on: March 09, 2018, 09:47:31 pm »

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Attack
Mountain: (2) Wizgrot, Jilladilla
Badlands: (4) SC, Pavellius, Jilladilla, Dessard
Jungle:
Sea: (4) SC, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Dessard

The Credit We Need, the Confirmation
Research
Espionage: (5) SC, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Jilladilla, Dessard
While the new design may nullify the enemy artillery advantage in the mountains, based on the last turn's combat their other advantages there are much larger than those in the Badlands, so voting for the Badlands and Sea.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #421 on: March 09, 2018, 09:48:32 pm »

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Attack
Mountain: (3) Wizgrot, Jilladilla, Taricus
Badlands: (5) SC, Pavellius, Jilladilla, Dessard, Taricus
Jungle:
Sea: (4) SC, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Dessard

The Credit We Need, the Confirmation
Research
Espionage: (6) SC, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Jilladilla, Dessard, Taricus
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #422 on: March 10, 2018, 01:50:19 am »

Is there time for a vote, if so

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Attack
Mountain: (4) Wizgrot, Jilladilla, Taricus, Rockrater
Badlands: (6) SC, Pavellius, Jilladilla, Dessard, Taricus, Rockeater
Jungle:
Sea: (4) SC, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Dessard

The Credit We Need, the Confirmation
Research
Espionage: (7) SC, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Jilladilla, Dessard, Taricus, Rockeater
I will remove my vote from the mountains in case of a tie.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #423 on: March 10, 2018, 07:19:27 am »

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Attack
Mountain: (5) Wizgrot, Jilladilla, Taricus, Rockrater, Thanik
Badlands: (7) SC, Pavellius, Jilladilla, Dessard, Taricus, Rockeater, Thanik
Jungle:
Sea: (4) SC, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Dessard

The Credit We Need, the Confirmation
Research
Espionage: (8 ) SC, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Jilladilla, Dessard, Taricus, Rockeater, Thanik

Adding Thanik´s discord vote.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #424 on: March 10, 2018, 03:17:36 pm »

Quote from: Strategy Box
Attack
Mountain: (6) Wizgrot, Jilladilla, Taricus, Rockrater, Thanik, Pavellius
Badlands: (7) SC, Pavellius, Jilladilla, Dessard, Taricus, Rockeater, Thanik
Jungle:
Sea: (3) SC, Wizgrot, Dessard

The Credit We Need, the Confirmation
Research
Espionage: (8 ) SC, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Jilladilla, Dessard, Taricus, Rockeater, Thanik

Adding Thanik´s discord vote.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #425 on: March 10, 2018, 05:01:27 pm »

Are the new rockets a viable ship to ship weapon, with the better precision and their new size?

Just asking to see how well they performed compared to our normal artillery cannons.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #426 on: March 10, 2018, 06:20:22 pm »

Quote from: Strategy Box
Attack
Mountain: (4) Jilladilla, Taricus, Rockrater,  Pavellius
Badlands: (8 ) SC, Pavellius, Jilladilla, Dessard, Taricus, Rockeater, Thanik, Wizgrot
Jungle:
Sea: (4) SC, Wizgrot, Dessard, Thanik

The Credit We Need, the Confirmation
Research
Espionage: (8 ) SC, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Jilladilla, Dessard, Taricus, Rockeater, Thanik

Changing my vote and Thanik´s by his request
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #427 on: March 10, 2018, 09:04:56 pm »

Quote from: Strategy Box
Attack
Mountain: (3) Jilladilla, Taricus, Rockrater
Badlands: (8 ) SC, Pavellius, Jilladilla, Dessard, Taricus, Rockeater, Thanik, Wizgrot
Jungle:
Sea: (5) SC, Wizgrot, Dessard, Thanik, Pavellius

The Credit We Need, the Confirmation
Research
Espionage: (8 ) SC, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Jilladilla, Dessard, Taricus, Rockeater, Thanik
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #428 on: March 11, 2018, 02:22:34 am »

Combat Phase
Spring 1953
Turn 9

Economical Developments:
As the war grows more heated, foreign powers begin to grow more and more invested in our little patch of nowhere.  This, in turn, has sparked some economic investors to consider our fledgling nations for exploitation investment.  Both Nogrania and Toskesh have the opportunity to attract a foreign investor to open a new Oil production facility.  These investors, despite being remarkably shady corporations, are interested in acquiring patents to cutting-edge weaponry.  You will need to choose which piece of technology to woo them with: you must pick one piece of weaponry you've developed to present to them.  Assuming the investors are adequately impressed with the technological capabilities of your nation, they may open a new Oil refinement facility in your capitol.  This extra resource will require TC to be utilized, but could be a much-needed boost for your economy.

The United Nations War Crimes Council
Nogrania has brought the UNWCC's attention to two of Toskesh's inventions: the Xi-52 Yīfānfēngshùn Artillery Rocket and the "Jin Na" SMRL X-52b.  They claim they are both a violation of Protocol V on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Fixed-Wing Aircraft, of the Geneva Convention on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Certain Conventional Weapons Which May Be Deemed to Be Excessively Injurious, Have Indiscriminate Effects, or Greatly Enable and Encourage the Pursuant of Armed Conflicts Between Nations.  The UNWCC has taken this claim very seriously and called both Nogranian and Toskesh officials to the War Crimes Tribunal to determine whether or not a violation has occurred.

Both sides have until the Strategy Phase of next turn to submit a 500 word argument explaining why the Xi-52 Yīfānfēngshùn Artillery Rocket and the "Jin Na" SMRL X-52b do or do not violate Protocol V of the Geneva Conventions.  The UNWCC will listen to both sides, examine the accused instruments, and come to a just ruling.  Should the ruling be to find the instrument in violation, the offending side will receive a fair sentence proportional to their violation.  Should the ruling be to find the instrument not a violation, then the case will be dismissed; depending on how frivolous the accusation was, this may hurt future cases!  Limit of 1 submission per player.  Best submissions from each side will be used.

Technological Developments

This turn Nogrania has built the NAF-AFW-52 "Rhino" Hexapod.  It is virtually identical to their Hippo Hexapod Tank-Walker, but features an increase in armor and cannon size for a correspondingly slower top speed and reload rate. 

For their revision they have developed the NAF-UH-51-A "Draught", a combat variant of their existing Draft helicopter.  Notable changes include forward-facing Emu's, detachable floats, and mountings for a pair of 110-pound bombs.  It also comes with a snazy black paint job.

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After several turns of dedicated work, disastrous testing accidents, and tedious rework, Toskesh unveils their Project Suànpán to be the Xi-52-02 Xīwàng Kèzhì Xuá-Zhí - literally the most advanced dedicated attack helicopter in the world.  It features two in-line cockpits; one for the pilot, and the other for the gunner/radio operator.  The engine is their new Xi-53 Xìnlài de-series Turbine Engine, which was developed during their revision this turn and features a new innovative heat exchanger and intercooler system to produce a staggering amount of horsepower.  The exhaust is directed out the rear of the helicopter to bolster speed and the twin intakes are located above the cockpit to avoid taking in the exhaust from the Jin Na rockets mounted on either side beneath a pair of stubby wings.  It is a remarkably nimble helicopter despite being fully clad in Thin armor, though it does require a very skilled pilot and has a rather limited ammo supply.  Armament can vary from eight Jin Na rockets to a pair of 45 mm Repeating Grenade Launchers. 

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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 8, Winter 1952
« Reply #429 on: March 11, 2018, 02:22:57 am »

Combat Report

Nogrania has elected to push the Fjords and Eastern Seas.
Toskesh has elected to push the Badlands and Eastern Seas.



Combat in the Mountains

The weather in the mountains is quite lovely in the spring, if you don't mind the light showers.  Nogrania takes advantage of the pleasant weather to re-establish artillery positions in otherwise inaccessible locations using their Draft helicopters.  Despite the preparation, there is no conflict here this turn and the soldiers are left to sip tea and shoot at tin cans.

Nogrania maintains their hold on the Mountains and generates +1 to their Economic Development Track.



Combat in the Badlands

The Xi-52-02 Xīwàng Kèzhì Xuá-Zhí Attack Helicopter is a terror in the wide-open badlands.

The strafing runs are brief, brutal, and devastating. Any Nogranian without an Emu in his hands learns quick that once the distinctive staccato of helicopter blades can be heard, the best thing they can do is scatter.  Toskesh attack helicopters fly in quick, empty their rocket racks and RGL's, then turn around and fly home to rearm.  They're difficult to hit due to their high speed and small size, but Nogrania's .50 caliber Emu's can be quite damaging when they do hit.  Nogrania manages to score a few kills, and the fact that the Xīwàng Kèzhì Xuá-Zhí is Very Expensive means each loss is painful - especially considering how effective the attack helicopters are.  Nogrania's Draught is a poor comparison, with lower speed and nonexistant armor, but it does have a few small advantages over the Xīwàng Kèzhì Xuá-Zhí - loitering ability and an Expensive cost level.  Toskesh still relies on rifles for anti-air capabilities, but during Nogrania's raids they can hover outside of their effective range before dropping their bomb load.  Even in closer range engagements the small-caliber guns struggle to land lethal shots, and infantry tend to rely the Jin Na SMRL as it is by far a more powerful anti-air weapon - if they can land a hit.  Lining up the fast-moving helicopter with the slow-moving rocket can be tricky though, and unlike Toskesh's attack helicopter the Draught's mounted Emu's don't run out of ammo in a single pass.  Despite this small advantage, Toskesh still barely hangs on to their air advantage - even managing to score the worlds first helicopter-to-helicopter unguided rocket kill.  Air-to-air combat rarely happens, since Nogrania's helicopters are more plentiful and have the more versatile Emu NMG's and Toskesh's helicopters are fast enough to pick-and-choose their battles.

Both side's Hexapods are Very Expensive this turn, including Nogrania's new up-armed and up-armored Rhino.  The Medium armor on the Rhino can turn most HE rounds that Toskesh can field, and even deflecting solid shot when properly angled.  The Light armor on the legs is still a problem, and they can be knocked out of commission with Toskesh's anti-armor weapons.  On the bright side, the 4" Duke mounted in the turret has a much higher velocity and range than Toskesh's knock-off Piāoqiè guānsī Hexapod.  The four-inch round is certainly overkill for the Lightly Armored Hippo-clone, but Nogranian tank crews feel a certain sense of justice each time they scratch another skull into the paint on their turret.  Most Rhinos are knocked out by rocket barrage or air assault rather than armor-to-armor action, and at Very Expensive costs they certainly hurt to lose.  The Paradigm performs its role as mobile artillery admirably, though the machine is certainly starting to show its age with its slow speed.  Sadly, its duties this turn generally involve covering retreats.

Toskesh still suffers from not having any sort of NMG (or corresponding knock-off) of their own, or any artillery larger than a light field gun.  Their rocket artillery, SMRL's, and RGL's help make up the gap, though, and their Qi-Chu's are still the fastest thing on the ground.  Qi-Chu barrages have become rarer now that Nogrania's Draft and Draught are able to chase them down, but the harassment role has been handed off to the Xīwàng Kèzhì Xuá-Zhí Attack Helicopter.

By the end of the season, the two sides are fairly matched.  Toskesh's helicopter is more expensive than Nogrania's, but much more adept at its role.  Nogrania's mobile armor is better than Toskesh's, but they have better infantry support.  The combat seems doomed to be stalemated, but…

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Due to the actions of one pilot, the scales have tipped in Toskesh's favor and allowed them to make progress in the Badlands.

Toskesh has pushed south and gained a section of the Badlands!  Nogrania has failed to hold the Badlands and will not generate +1 on their EDT this turn.



Combat in the Fjords

Nogrania pushes the Fjords this turn to break Toskesh's EDT development.  It's spring, so the fertile landscape has sprouted into dense foliage with the rains.  This is bad for the Paradigm and even worse for the Qi-Chu, so the turning points in this theatre generally revolve around armor-to-armor games of cat-and-mouse, interspersed with air assaults and artillery barrages.  As with the Badlands, Nogrania's heavier armor means they can usually survive the Piāoqiè guānsī Hexapod's attacks.  The slower-loading cannon is an unfortunate side effect to the increased round size, but Toskesh Hexapods make lovely fireworks when the four-inch HE shell blasts through to the ammo supply.  That being said, even the two-inch shells in the Hippo are a bit overkill; the Emu can knock out Thinly armored legs and crack Lightly armored hulls at close range, and this advantage is critical when playing peek-a-boo around hills and through bushes.  The coaxial mount means the commanders don't have to expose themselves through the cupola, and the higher rate of fire on the Emu over Toskesh's RGL's can be a deciding factor in many battles.

Toskesh supplements their stolen Hexapod designs with copious amounts of air, artillery, and infantry support.  Nogrania still doesn't have anti-tank equipment for their infantry, and though their artillery is still the furthest-reaching thing on the island their air support isn't as well-developed as Toskesh's.  In a straight fight a Nogranian Hexapod can win four times out of five, but with support involved it becomes a much more even fight.  Even worse for Nogrania, Toskesh has naval support in this section of the Fjords.  Their MRRL's dominate shorelines and limit Nogranian movements.  With their control of the coastline they can send Qi-Chu's loaded with soldiers behind Nogranian lines uncontested, often to devastating effect.

By the time summer rolls around, the Nogranian offensive has been repelled.

Toskesh maintains their hold on the Fjords and generates +1 to their Economic Development Track.



Combat in the Eastern Seas

Following up on their push out of the harbor, Nogrania makes strikes as they take back the ocean.

The Red Herring is Cheap with the addition of Nogrania's latest EDT advancement, and with the optional floats for the Draught they can now bring air support out over the water.  The waters are fairly calm in spring, meaning the Draught can land without fear of capsizing.  Supply and rearmament is a difficult task for the helicopter and generally involves setting down near a Whale tender, who then supplies the craft with fuel and belts of .50 ammo.  Resupplying the 110 lb bombs, however, is not a task that can be performed on open water and would require an actual landing pad. 

Toskesh's Yāngē-class Citadel Destroyer is down to Very Expensive this turn, and with the MRRL's now in larger bracket size and greater accuracy they are in better shape than they were a few turns ago.  Despite this, there is little they can do against 110 lb bombs being dropped down from beyond rifle range and 4" guns that out-range anything they can bring to the fight.

Nogrania easily pushes up another section of coastline this turn and is now in position to provide off-shore bombardment in the Fjords next turn.

Nogrania has regained a section of the Eastern Seas!



Russian Assistance:
After little debate, we have decided to accept assistance from our Soviet friends in the form of an Espionage Credit.  We are told they already have assets in place and are awaiting orders.  While we have reason to believe Nogrania suspects we are up to something, there is little reason to believe they can do anything about it. 

Other News:
The U.N. discusses whether or not Hydrogen Bombs violate protocol IX of the Geneva Conventions.  They conclude that yes, it most definitely does, and the U.S. states for the record that they are certainly not building one, at all.  Reports of Stalin's failing health continue to grow, and a number of doctors are arrested in what would be called the Doctor's Plot.  Under torture those arrested confess to the plot, affirming the allegations.  Those arrested were allegedly plotting to assassinate top Russian officials, and by coincidence the majority of those arrested happened to be Jewish.  It is around this time the USSR severs relations with Israel.  Stalin dies soon after on March 1st, 1952.  Albert Einstein announces his revised Unified Field theory.



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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 10, Summer 1953
« Reply #430 on: March 11, 2018, 03:35:10 am »

I hope we have plans for AA
We should show the company our hovercraft for three reasons.
1.It's original from us.
2.It's advance technology.
3.It's not going to kill us if Nogrania will get one if we can get their Emu
We need to remember that the WCC think on the spirit of the law so they can ban helicopter if we are not careful enough.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 10, Summer 1953
« Reply #431 on: March 11, 2018, 09:07:47 am »

Thanik's expansive summarization and plan for action this turn, in addition to his UNWCC Defense entry.

Currently we've afforded ourselves to sit at a stalemate with the enemy and have maximized our roll pool from last turn, and should continue to do so this turn, as the rolls are - near the end of the deck - something we can anticipate at least to a limited degree. For this purpose, I list the respective roll pools for our design and revision phase:

Design pool: [1, 2, 3]
Revision pool: [1, 4, 6]

For this very reason I believe it is necessary to go through with a Easy - to preferably - Normal difficulty design and a Hard - to - Very Hard revision, with an emphasis on the former in the latter case. Furthermore, I believe we should further capitalize on our turboshaft research so as to reduce the cost of all our war gear, from the Qi-Chu to our navy. A list of costs for the gear another engine design would encompass:

Xi-51b Qi-Chu - [4 Ore, 5 Oil, 1 Cobalt]
- Currently uses two Type 51 Turboshaft engines (Burns fuel at a staggering rate, Unreliable in wet weather)
+ Quite fast. Skirt has been made resilient to enemy fire, and further improving thrust and therefore lift will make it virtually unkillable via direct fire, as the lift generated by the direct thrust from the engines would be enough to carry the vehicle even without a plenium chamber.

More importantly, the new engines could reduce the oil cost considerably - by as much as 2 Oil, or more depending on eS's ruling, though 3 Oil seems reasonable for the Qi-Chu given an improved version due to it's size and given all the aspects the new engines have compared to the old ones. The list of said aspects includes:

-> Threefold increase in fuel efficiency, given minor improvements, and twofold without them.
-> Capability of using different fuels, vastly easing logistical acquisition of fuel and thus reducing the effort needed to keep the vehicle supplied with chemicals.
-> Much higher reliability of the engines
-> Faster due to less weight in the engines, where-in the engines can become even more powerful than the current ones given a fraction of the size. Expected scenario, which should be fulfilled even in the worst case outcome, we get the same power from a much smaller engine, making the whole thing faster and allowing it's platform to rotate as originally planned, while also needing MUCH less fuel.

This would allow all variants of the Qi-Chu to become Expensive, or potentially lower their cost to Cheap in the case of the bog-standard, and Expensive in the case of the rocket artillery version. This would also lower the hovercraft's profile and allow the central platform to rotate like it was originally meant to, as well as house the larger rocket brackets - leading to a massive increase in efficiency.

Piāoqiè guānsī Hexapod Tank-Walker –  [7 Ore, 3 Oil]
- Can't turn and move at the same time. Very vulnerable to damage, mostly due to the Light armor on the body and the Thin armor on the legs.
+ Reasonably fast.

Engine improvement is set to reduce the oil cost by 1 or remain stationary and boost the speed of the machine considerably. An effort can be made to armor it in the design as a minor action encompassed within the Hexapod portion of the design, and we could try working out simultaneous turning and movement as a 3rd class priority. This could result in either a much faster hexapod, or in a cheaper (Expensive), faster and better armored hexapod (with cases in between, of course).

Xi-52-02 Xīwàng Kèzhì Xuá-Zhí – [4 Ore, 4 Oil, 1 Cobalt, 1 Aluminum]
+ Powerful Xìnlài de-series Turbine Engine; good view of the ground below; thin armored all around; remarkably fast. 
- Limited ammo supply, requires a very skilled pilot due to bad directional stability. 

Design is expected to drop 1 Oil in cost given the engine revision due to the massive efficiency increase brought about by incorporating all three aspects of the revision, as mentioned before. Another attempt at a muffler is made, which should be incorporated in all designs and isn't localized to this design (just so there's no confusion). As a minor action I'd assume we could improve it's controllability.

Yāngē-class Citadel Destroyer – [8 Ore, 4 Oil, 1 Cobalt]
+ Great survivability; decent number of armaments; off-shore bombardment capability; fast
- Poor armament size.

Expected to drop 1 or 2 Oil from it's cost due to the increase in performance given by the Xinlai series over the Type-51b series turboshaft and the difference that brings when big engines are concerned - especially because of the ability to use different fuels. Expected to become more mobile because of increased power output at the very least.

Dogbite is slated to remain at the same cost but retain an insane speed boost given the fitting of Xinlai series turboshafts. It's also most likely going to weight less, due to the removed smoke stacks and large boilers, and thus would present a smaller target.

Results:
Xi-51b Qi-Chu: [4 Ore, 5 Oil, 1 Cobalt] -> [4 Ore, 3 Oil, 1 Cobalt] (2 Oil Drop Scenario) [Expensive - all variants]
Piāoqiè guānsī Hexapod Tank-Walker: [7 Ore, 3 Oil] -> [7 Ore, 3 Oil, 1 Cobalt] [Very Expensive] (Thrust increase, uparmoring, no drop Scenario - with drop becomes Expensive, which seems likely given the high efficiency increase and the varied fuel usage capability)
Xi-52-02 Xīwàng Kèzhì Xuá-Zhí: [4 Ore, 4 Oil, 1 Cobalt, 1 Aluminum] -> [4 Ore, 3 Oil, 1 Cobalt, 1 Aluminum] (1 Oil Drop Scenario) [Expensive]
Yāngē-class Citadel Destroyer: [8 Ore, 4 Oil, 1 Cobalt] -> [8 Ore, 3 Oil, 1 Cobalt] (1 Oil Drop, faster Scenario) [Very Expensive]

Therefore, I propose the following design for this turn - with a difficulty slated at Normal (which seems reasonable given the revision's difficulty designation).

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Xi-53b Xìnlài de-series Turbine Engines
The successful Xinlai de series turbine engine is further worked on to increase it's fuel efficiency by as much as originally planned. By incorporating reheating, the simple-cycle efficiencies of our gas turbine is expected to increase further by another 50-60%, which in conjunction with the combined-cycle engine already uses, the intercooler and the heat exchanger, should lead to an engine at least 300% more powerful than the Type-52b from which it originated originally (compared to the 160% increase the intercooler and regenerator bring on their own). A simple tuned pipe-type muffler (tuned pipe exhaust - also basically an aero turbine muffler) is also added to reduce noise levels, where-in the pipe has a resonant frequency of operation, and when the engine is operating at that speed, the muffler causes a timed partial vacuum at the engine's exhaust port, helping the engine vent exhaust gasses. The net result is a boost of power at that operating speed due to the engine breathing better, a couple of percent worth of fuel efficiency, as well as producing less overall noise.

The net result is cheaper, more powerful engines for all our military vehicles, with the work going to the Xīwàng Kèzhì, Piāoqiè guānsī, Qi-Chu, Dogbite and Yāngē. Priorities for each vehicle:

1. Qi-Chu -> Replace the Type-52b engines with a Xi-53b Xinlai de-series engine.
2. Piāoqiè guānsī -> Replace the current powerplant with a Xi-53b Xinlai de-series engine.
       2.1(!) Armor is to be increased to Medium on the hull and Light on the legs.
             2.1.1 Work is to be done on making the vehicle capable of omnidirectional traversal (meaning it can turn and move at the same time)
3. Xīwàng Kèzhì -> Upgrade to the Xi-53b Xinlai de-series engine.
4. Yange -> Improve current turboshafts via experience from Xi-53b Xinlai de-series engines.
5. Dogbite  -> Replace the current powerplant with a Xi-53b Xinlai de-series engine.

The more indented the priority, the lower it is (as it is with a lower number). Engines are to be listed as X53XLAII-A / L / N. Naming convention retained from Xi-53. A set of popular joke phrases is to be spray painted onto the hull of various vehicles, including the following from the wildly popular Tondeshe Mūbingusutōrī, Fist of the Red Star:

Zhǔnbèi nǐ de pìgu - Prepare your ass
> Said in a dramatic manner as the protagonist prepares his eye lasers and fires, blasting the antagonist into the ground in a devastating fashion.
Nǐ yǐjīng xiāoshīle - You are already obliterated
> Said as the protagonist finishes bitch slapping one of his comrades so as to break them of thoughts of failure and get their head back in the game.
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For our revision, I propose working on our cannons so as to develop an autoloader, a 75mm high velocity cannon and HEAT shells. Alternatively, a rarefaction wave gun could be developed in conjunction with the autoloader at the same size, retaining the high velocity nature of the above, but without the HEAT payload to avoid introducing too many new concepts in a revision meant to stay Hard.

The revision is as follows:
Xi-53 Qīngsuàn 75 mm L/60 Duìzhì gun
Following the broad usage of the outdated Sunrise artillery piece for both indirect and direct fire roles, a more fitting high velocity cannon was required for anti-armor, artillery and naval roles. The Qingsuan is the design teams answer - incorporating with it several improvements to the Sunrise so as to make it the bane of the Nogranian military complex.

The barrel's diameter is increased from 50mm to 75mm. Small improvements include guns fitted with a thermal sleeve made out of concentric inner and outer insulating sleeves with a gap in between so as to provide a decent improvement in accuracy, a bore evacuator fitted to tank-mounted versions and other modernization. Where it really shines, though, is the development of a reliable, fast carousel-style autoloader for the Piāoqiè guānsī walker tank and for naval mounts and the development of modern single-part HEATFS cartridges for the main gun, where-in the cartridge is long enough to attain respectable velocities and the long barrel made so as to augment it's muzzle velocity further. Due to the size reduction this will enable to the Hexapod's turret, as one crew member will no longer be needed, it is expected the end-result will be cheaper and that naval mounts will pack a bigger punch.
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UNWCC Defense Entry
On the Nature of Fin-Stabilized Rocket-Propelled Ordinance
- Yuēhàn Zhēnshí
Quote from: Protocol V
V.    Fixed-Wing Aircraft:
Protocol V on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Fixed-Wing Aircraft prohibits the use of air-borne vehicles which use stationary wing planes as their primary method of generating lift for offensive military purposes.  Such vehicles may not be fitted with offensive or defensive armaments, including but not limited to: bombs, guns, rockets, or flechettes.  Additionally, the use of fixed-wing aircraft itself as a weapon against enemy targets is prohibited.  The reason is that the imprecise nature of bombing results in unacceptable amounts of collateral damage against civilian objects, and such vehicles do not permit chance for military personnel to surrender during combat. This protocol does not recognize the pilots signal flare as an armament, nor does it prohibit the use of unarmed fixed-wing aircraft for observational purposes.
Upon greeting the men and women of the council, Yuēhàn cut straight to the chase: "I have come here today so as to present my case on behalf of the nation of Tondeshe. The opposition will have the UNWCC believe the weapon brought before them is violation of Protocol V, which when dissected, shows a few key concepts inherent to an instance of a breach. An article in breach of Protocol V must be an air-borne vehicle used in military action, firstly possessing the quality of being an aircraft - that is, a machine that is able to fly by gaining support from the air and countering the force of gravity by using either static lift or by using the dynamic lift of an airfoil. It must then further accomplish this via the usage of a stationary wing plane as it's primary source of lift. Singling out this section of Protocol V alone adequately describes what a breach would consist of. Let's now look at the Xi-52 Yīfānfēngshùn and the "Jin Na" SMRL X-52b. Both weapons are nearly identical in operational procedure, where-in they counteract the force of gravity with thrust from a solid-fuel propelled rocket engine and deliver a payload to a distant location, as does a gun of any type in general. The weapons are activated, upon which the engine is ignited and the rocket is launched through the tube, which imparts spin to the device, and upon exiting the nose of the barrel, concealed fins are activated and sprung into place, forming vortex instabilities in the airflow around the rocket body to produce a force opposing changes to the weapon's ballistic trajectory upon the exhaustion of it's rocket fuel, so as to reduce the inaccuracy of the device upon firing, to limit collateral damage and to stabilize the weapon in the air so as to deliver the ordinance to the designated target. Looking at even the spirit of this protocol - to reduce the collateral damage induced by imprecise nature of bombing in conflict - we see the accused items are no more dangerous than direct, conventional artillery, while the opposition would have the council believe it to be a suicide unmanned aircraft such as that used by the Japanese in the Second Great War. As an addition, the Tondeshe military complex would like to recommend the usage of fins to all Great Powers in the event of conflict, so as to minimize collateral damage in the event of necessary rocket artillery, so as to avoid the tragic amount of losses seen in the Korean War."
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 10, Summer 1953
« Reply #432 on: March 11, 2018, 11:47:27 am »

I propose stealing the Emu. We already have a walker, we don't have a 50 cal.
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« Reply #433 on: March 11, 2018, 12:44:23 pm »

I propose stealing the Emu. We already have a walker, we don't have a 50 cal.

That was the plan all along with the espionage credit.
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« Reply #434 on: March 11, 2018, 02:44:25 pm »

Version 4: The Finishing

Nogrania has seen fit to demand our rockets, qualifying them as aircraft and arguing that they should be banned in accord to the V Article. This blatant exploitation of the international legal system is nothing more than a waste of this court´s time, as rocket artillery and launchers similar the ones fielded by the proud nation of Toskesh already existed when the Conventions were implemented. This court of law already considered the Soviet Katiusha and the American bazooka and found them legal, establishing a firm legal precedent for their variants, today brought to trial.

However, we must hammer in why this legal precedent was established in order to reinforce it against further attack from any nations that try to sabotage the founding principles of humane warfare.

First, the stabilizing fins the rocket uses do not qualify as wings. Wings are meant to help develop enough lift to help an animal or aircraft take off and flight, but that is not the function of our fins. As can be shown in field demonstrations, the fins remain folded and only flip out once the rocket comes out of its container. It doesn´t uses them  to generate the lift to take off and flight, that is the function of the cordite propellant, but rather to develop a spin that helps improve their accuracy as in a rifled gun. Our old rockets didn´t had those fins, but still could fly, although less accurately. Thus, the “primary way of generating lift” relies not in fins, but in the rapid combustion of the cordite propellant. Projectiles from both the Katiusha and bazooka make use of fins in the same way our do.

As remarked by engineer Nikola, the usage of fins improves the accuracy of the rocket, minimizing collateral damage, which was the main intent of the article in question. I would also like extend his wise suggestion of an informal pact in order to only field fin-equipped rocket artillery to avoid unnecessary injury of death of non-combatants.

In addition to all that has been previously said, while rockets are mentioned on the article in question,  the exact wording involved reads: “Such vehicles may not be fitted with offensive or defensive armaments, including but not limited to: bombs, guns, rockets, or flechettes”. Our rockets are explicitly categorized as armament of aircraft who use fixed wings as a primary way to fly, not as aircraft themselves, further reinforcing their role as weapons systems and not airborne vehicles on their own.

Finally, in our conversations with the Nogranian prosecution, they have been oddly fixated in qualifying our rocket as an “airborne vehicle”. Barring that “ airborne vehicle” in the article is merely a pronoun which refers to the aforementioned “fixed wing aircraft”, defined immediately after; and the stupidity of a vehicle which explodes upon reaching its destination, we would ask the court to set out a precedent explicitly dismissing the unheard possibility of unmanned apparatus qualifying as vehicles, to safeguard munitions from being put into trial. 
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