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Author Topic: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - GAME OVER  (Read 47719 times)

Wizgrot

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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #405 on: March 04, 2018, 10:31:56 am »

We will receive it next turn Rockeater. Just search for end in the channel and look at the first mention of eS.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #406 on: March 06, 2018, 09:11:34 pm »


Xi-53 Xìnlài de-series Turbine Engines
Development time is dedicated to replacing the engines in our military vehicles (all of varying quality) with modern turboshafts so as to both increase their fuel efficiency exponentially (both via increased burn efficiency and incorporating more potential fuels, using experience from working on the Zhish). By incorporating inter-cooling, regeneration, and reheating the simple-cycle efficiencies of our gas turbines are expected to practically double, and by incorporating a combined-cycle the engine, where-in after completing its cycle (in the first engine), the temperature of the working fluid engine is still high enough that a second subsequent heat engine may extract energy from the waste heat that the first engine produced. By combining these multiple streams of work upon a single mechanical shaft turning an electric generator, the overall net efficiency of the system may be increased by 50-60%. Additionally, reliability improvements are also introduced based on the development of the turbine engine used in the Zhish, resulting in more reliable powerplants.

In a closed cycle gas turbine such as the Zhish, the exhaust gas is used in an heat exchanger, and as a result the working fluid is reusable. It is also a clean cycle as the working fluid is recirculated. Regeneration process involves the installation of a heat exchanger in the gas turbine cycle, which is used to extract the heat from the exhaust gas, which is then used to heat the compressed air. Intercooling is incorporated in the form of a heat exchanger which is used to cool the compressor gases at the time of compression. When the compressor involves a high and low pressure compressor, as it does in almost all gas turbines, the intercooler is installed between them to cool down the flow. This cooling process will decrease the work needed for the compression in the high pressure unit, resulting in a higher output per mass flow for the fuel. Reheating is applied in a gas turbine in such a way that it increases the turbine work without increasing the compressor work or melting the turbine materials. A reheater is applied in a gas turbine between the high and low pressure compressor and increases the turbine work without increasing the compressor work or melting the turbine materials. Generally, it's a combustor which reheats the flow between the high and low pressure turbines, again, improving the thrust-to-weight ratio. By itself, they would not necessarily increase the thermal efficiency, however, when intercooling or reheat is used in conjunction with heat regeneration, a significant increase in thermal efficiency can be achieved and the net work output is also increased. All three are simple concepts incorporated in early turboshafts to greatly increase their efficiency. A simple tuned pipe-type muffler (tuned pipe exhaust - also basically an aero turbine muffler) is also added to reduce noise levels, where-in the pipe has a resonant frequency of operation, and when the engine is operating at that speed, the muffler causes a timed partial vacuum at the engine's exhaust port, helping the engine vent exhaust gasses. The net result is a boost of power at that operating speed due to the engine breathing better, a couple of percent worth of fuel efficiency, as well as producing less overall noise.

The net result is cheaper (at least by 1 Oil), more powerful engines for all our military vehicles, with the Xīwàng Kèzhì, Piāoqiè guānsī and Qi-Chu having the most priority, but work is to be done on incorporating the new engine know-how to the Dogbite and Yāngē, since the same concepts apply and are easier to implement there due to their size.

Engines are to be listed as X53XLAI-A / L / N (Implementation Number, First letter of name), for example, X53XLAI-L1Q for the Qi-Chu and X53XLAI-L1P for the Piāoqiè. Same named vehicles have the second letter added to differentiate between them, as in X53XLAI-A1XI for the Xiwang Kezhi as opposed to X53XLAI-A1X for the original Xiwang (of course, since we won't be using the latter, the abbrevation XK is to be used for the Xiwang Kezhi).

tl;dr The goal of the revision is to create more fuel efficient turboshaft engines to reduce the cost of our stuff (!!!), by at least using the engine from the Zhish and refitting it to everything else, or alternatively by improving it via the above method to create both a more fuel efficient and more powerful engine for the same size.

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The Xi-53 Xìnlài de-series Turbine Engine makes use of a heat exchanger and intercooler to produce a greater amount of horsepower.

As the Xi-53 Xìnlài de-series Turbine Engine is based on the same engine used in the Zhish, we can swap it out for the more powerful engine easily.  Less easy is integrating it into our other equipment, such as the Qi-Chu, Piāoqiè guānsī, Dogbite and Yāngē.  We are unable to perform the engine swap this turn.  The new engine is not significantly cheaper, but it does provide significantly more thrust. 

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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #407 on: March 06, 2018, 11:57:10 pm »

Now we can put armor on our Qi-Chu ,after we install it of course,but it's not worth a waste of a 4 or 6 unless we also put an armored dome to function as a turret of sort.
Although, if we do this and put a good gun on it we might get it to a state where it can hold against their walkers.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #408 on: March 07, 2018, 03:13:18 am »

Did we got the muffler as well?
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #409 on: March 07, 2018, 08:08:22 am »

maybe if we stopped to develop a helicopter for 20 turns we would get better dicerolls....
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #410 on: March 07, 2018, 08:52:30 am »

maybe if we stopped to develop a helicopter for 20 turns we would get better dicerolls....

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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #411 on: March 07, 2018, 11:32:45 am »

Good to know. Thank you
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 8, Winter 1952
« Reply #412 on: March 07, 2018, 01:20:00 pm »

Quote from: Strategy Box
Attack
Mountain:
Badlands: (1) SC
Jungle:
Sea: (1) SC

The Credit We Need, the Confirmation
Research
Espionage: (1)

Its obv that we deploy the helicopter this turn even if a three-turn design taking helicopter is more poor in many aspects compared to the one that they developed in a single turn, thanks evicted
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #413 on: March 07, 2018, 01:31:59 pm »

Can we even win at sea?
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #414 on: March 07, 2018, 01:33:25 pm »

Can we even win at sea?

Yange dropped back down to VE, so we should have parity, unless they made a thing for their navy.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #415 on: March 07, 2018, 01:47:19 pm »

So what the point of attaking at sea now?
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #416 on: March 07, 2018, 01:56:59 pm »

So what the point of attaking at sea now?
If we take back the last zone, we will start gaining EDT points, and block their sea TC

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Attack
Mountain:
Badlands: (2) SC, Pavellius
Jungle:
Sea: (2) SC, Pavellius

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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #417 on: March 07, 2018, 02:24:21 pm »

I meant in a sense that we probabaly won't win there.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #418 on: March 09, 2018, 09:28:13 pm »


Quote from: Strategy Box
Attack
Mountain: (1) Wizgrot
Badlands: (2) SC, Pavellius
Jungle:
Sea: (3) SC, Pavellius, Wizgrot

The Credit We Need, the Confirmation
Research
Espionage: (3) SC, Pavellius, Wizgrot

Our helicopter will be more useful in the mountains than in the Badlands, negating their artillery advantage there. The steep hills will also help us to use our superior infantry equipment better.

I think we basically have won the sea if they don´t do any Naval designs next turn.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 9, Spring 1953
« Reply #419 on: March 09, 2018, 09:45:26 pm »

Not sure we'll be able to win decisively on the sea, so this is my vote.
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Attack
Mountain: (2) Wizgrot, Jilladilla
Badlands: (3) SC, Pavellius, Jilladilla
Jungle:
Sea: (3) SC, Pavellius, Wizgrot

The Credit We Need, the Confirmation
Research
Espionage: (4) SC, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Jilladilla
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