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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 7, Autumn 1952
« Reply #285 on: February 12, 2018, 06:10:28 pm »

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Piāoqiè guānsī (Copyright Infringement) Hexapod Revision: (2) Wizgrot, Pavellius
Tanks for the Commonman: (1) SC
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 7, Autumn 1952
« Reply #286 on: February 13, 2018, 07:44:35 pm »

Piāoqiè guānsī (Copyright Infringement) Hexapod Revision

We have made our engineers sit down and carefully catalogue every part of the Hippo with detail so they can be replicated and throughly plagiarized mass produced . With this revision, the Piāoqiè guānsī Hexapod shall be fully adapted to our industry, with new and improved iron bars and short platforms.

"From Toskesh, with Love to [Insert Nogranian Hero here]" is etched in the right side. Although the phrase loses a lot of power from not being customizable to the select scum we would be facing each season, its universal nature should cover most of them.

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The Hippo's measurements are converted to metric and production is set up to facilitate the rapid assembly of Piāoqiè guānsī Hexapod Tank-Walkers.  Notable differences from the original Hippo include a lack of NMG's, a RGL mounted on the commanders cupola, and a series of "jump-seats", which are little more than a iron handles welded to the outside for soldiers to stand on/hold onto. 

The phrase "From Toskesh, with Love to [Insert Nogranian Hero here]" is etched into the armor plating on the right side.  There is some debate as to whether or not this phrase will affect enemy moral due to the impersonal nature of the insult, and also whether or not the average Nogranian soldier will even be able to read the phrase as it is written in Mandarin Chinese.  The Piāoqiè guānsī is no longer [COMPLEX].

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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 7, Autumn 1952
« Reply #287 on: February 14, 2018, 04:21:24 am »

Right. Time to decide things. I think this is it?

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Mountain:
Badlands: (1) Jilladilla
Jungle:
Sea: (1) Jilladilla

Spend Resource Credit? (+1 Ore for 1 turn. Cheapens Yāngē-class Citadel Destroyer from NE to VE)
Yes: (1) Jilladilla
No, save it:

Deploy Piāoqiè guānsī Hexapod? (I know this is a 'well no duh', just making it absolutely, 100% clear if we're dropping the secrecy)
Yes: (1) Jilladilla
No:

Right, I'm all for going for the credit, mostly because strangling their Naval TC now forces them to either try and push us back in the sea, or spend designs to improve their land or air TC (and because they already have 1 land TC, that likely won't be simple for a revision).
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 7, Autumn 1952
« Reply #288 on: February 14, 2018, 02:04:01 pm »


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Attack
Mountain:
Badlands: (2) Jilladilla, Pavellius
Jungle:
Sea: (2) Jilladilla, Pavellius

Spend Resource Credit? (+1 Ore for 1 turn. Cheapens Yāngē-class Citadel Destroyer from NE to VE)
Yes: (2) Jilladilla, Pavellius
No, save it:

Deploy Piāoqiè guānsī Hexapod? (I know this is a 'well no duh', just making it absolutely, 100% clear if we're dropping the secrecy)
Yes: (2) Jilladilla, Pavellius
No:
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 7, Autumn 1952
« Reply #289 on: February 14, 2018, 04:00:39 pm »



Quote from: Strategy Box
Attack
Mountain:
Badlands: (3) Jilladilla, Pavellius
Jungle:
Sea: (3) Jilladilla, Pavellius

Spend Resource Credit? (+1 Ore for 1 turn. Cheapens Yāngē-class Citadel Destroyer from NE to VE)
Yes: (3) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Wizgrot
No, save it:

Deploy Piāoqiè guānsī Hexapod? (I know this is a 'well no duh', just making it absolutely, 100% clear if we're dropping the secrecy)
Yes: (3) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Wizgrot
No:

Deploy Commander Zhao De:
Sea(1): Wizgrot
Fjords:
Badlands:
Swamps:

I believe that, with our new VE, it would be very hard for them to withstand a push in the sea. However, if we put Commander Zhao De there, we would basically guarantee the push without any consequences.

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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 7, Autumn 1952
« Reply #290 on: February 14, 2018, 04:09:56 pm »

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Attack
Mountain:
Badlands: (3) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Wizgrot
Jungle:
Sea: (4) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Doomblade, Wizgrot

Spend Resource Credit? (+1 Ore for 1 turn. Cheapens Yāngē-class Citadel Destroyer from NE to VE)
Yes: (4) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Doomblade
No, save it:

Deploy Piāoqiè guānsī Hexapod? (I know this is a 'well no duh', just making it absolutely, 100% clear if we're dropping the secrecy)
Yes: (4) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Doomblade
No:

Deploy Commander Zhao De:
Sea(2): Wizgrot, Doomblade
Fjords:
Badlands:
Swamps:
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 7, Autumn 1952
« Reply #291 on: February 14, 2018, 07:20:55 pm »

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Attack
Mountain:
Badlands: (3) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Wizgrot
Jungle:
Sea: (4) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Doomblade, Wizgrot

Spend Resource Credit? (+1 Ore for 1 turn. Cheapens Yāngē-class Citadel Destroyer from NE to VE)
Yes: (4) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Doomblade
No, save it:

Deploy Piāoqiè guānsī Hexapod? (I know this is a 'well no duh', just making it absolutely, 100% clear if we're dropping the secrecy)
Yes: (4) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Doomblade
No:

Deploy Commander Zhao De:
Sea(3): Wizgrot, Doomblade, Pavellius
Fjords:
Badlands:
Swamps:
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 7, Autumn 1952
« Reply #292 on: February 14, 2018, 08:35:06 pm »

Quote from: Strategy Box
Attack
Mountain:
Badlands: (3) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Wizgrot
Jungle:
Sea: (4) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Doomblade, Wizgrot

Spend Resource Credit? (+1 Ore for 1 turn. Cheapens Yāngē-class Citadel Destroyer from NE to VE)
Yes: (4) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Doomblade
No, save it:

Deploy Piāoqiè guānsī Hexapod? (I know this is a 'well no duh', just making it absolutely, 100% clear if we're dropping the secrecy)
Yes: (4) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Doomblade
No:

Deploy Commander Zhao De:
Sea(3): Wizgrot, Doomblade, Pavellius
Fjords:
Badlands:
Swamps:
Arabia:
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 7, Autumn 1952
« Reply #293 on: February 14, 2018, 09:58:23 pm »

Did you mean to vote, RAM? I see no votebox changes.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 7, Autumn 1952
« Reply #294 on: February 15, 2018, 04:22:06 am »

I really hope we kill Green this time.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 7, Autumn 1952
« Reply #295 on: February 16, 2018, 11:42:04 am »

Quote from: Strategy Box
Attack
Mountain:
Badlands: (4) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Thanik
Jungle:
Sea: (5) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Doomblade, Wizgrot, Thanik

Spend Resource Credit? (+1 Ore for 1 turn. Cheapens Yāngē-class Citadel Destroyer from NE to VE)
Yes: (4) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Doomblade
No, save it:
Abstine (1): Thanik

Deploy Piāoqiè guānsī Hexapod? (I know this is a 'well no duh', just making it absolutely, 100% clear if we're dropping the secrecy)
Yes: (5) Jilladilla, Pavellius, Wizgrot, Doomblade, Thanik
No:

Deploy Commander Zhao De:
Sea(4): Wizgrot, Doomblade, Pavellius, Thanik
Fjords:
Badlands:
Swamps:
Arabia:
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 7, Autumn 1952
« Reply #296 on: February 17, 2018, 09:19:24 pm »

Combat Phase
Autumn 1952
Turn 7

Economic Activity:  As the war rages on in Serouda, some foreign investors turn their attention to our booming arms manufacturing.  Nothing has come from this so far, but it's definitely something to keep an eye on.

Technological Developments

This year Nogrania has produced a ship of their own, a light Patrol Gunboat named the NAF-PG-51 "Red Herring".  It’s a small, light, and remarkably quick ship, armed well for its size.  It features an open-turret 2” Ironcaster on the bow and four Wictor NMG’s mounted around the ship.  It has a large ammo supply and non-existent armor, so the ship primarily relies on its agility to keep itself out of trouble.  Two additional rudders on either side of the main rudder have the ability to deflect outward to various degrees to enable the "Lürssen effect", which pulls the ship deeper into the water and allows it to plow more solidly through larger waves.  Three diesel engines power three screws, allowing the ship to accelerate quickly and maintain high speeds.  It does not feature berthing or messing, and sits at 99 tons when fully loaded and crewed.

For their revision Nogrania integrates a limiting pin in their Rabid carbines, physically preventing soldiers from switching to Full-Reset mode.

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This year Toskesh has produced the Yāngē-class Citadel Destroyer, an impressive state-of-the-art (for Serouda) surface combat ship.  The term “Destroyer” is a bit of a misnomer as it is certainly larger and heavier than an average destroyer, yet smaller than a standard light cruiser.  It sits at a tidy 2,500 metric tons and is armed to the teeth with a total of twelve 50 mm Sunrise cannons.  Each turret is twin-mounted with a pair of Sunrise’s, putting one turret at the bow, one at the stern, and two on each the port and starboard sides.  An additional 'Huā zi' MRRL is placed amidship, though it will generally be stowed away and used primarily for off-shore bombardments.  The hull is Thin armor, protecting it against anything weaker than a can opener, but the citadel is protected with Heavy armor and should be able to stop Ironcaster rounds beyond point-blank range, and perhaps even Duke rounds when properly angled. The powerplant is an expensive pair of super-sized gas turbine engines, allowing the ship to keep pace with the smaller Dogbite Destroyers.  Most notable is the inclusion of hammocks"Foldable Hanging Beds™", which allow their mess hall to double as sleeping quarters.

For their revision, Toskesh has finished one of their projects from last turn and produced the Piāoqiè guānsī Hexapod Tank-Walker, a blatant copy of Nogrania’s Hippo.  The measurements have been converted to metric and the production has been streamlined allowing them to remove the [COMPLEX] tag.  Notable differences include a lack of NMG's, a RGL mounted on the commanders cupola, and a series of "jump-seats", which are little more than iron handles welded to the outside for soldiers to stand on/hold onto.  Some tankers have taken to tying sandbags to the handles in an attempt to increase the miserable armor, but whether or not it’s effective is up for debate.  Something is written on the side of the tank, but Nogranian troops can’t read Mandarin Chinese so the words are a mystery.

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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 7, Autumn 1952
« Reply #297 on: February 17, 2018, 09:19:56 pm »

Combat Report

Nogrania has elected to push the Fjords and Eastern Seas.   They have used their Resource Credit for +1 Ore this turn.
Toskesh has elected to push the Badlands and Eastern Seas.   They have used their Resource Credit for +1 Ore this turn.



Combat in the Mountains

Nogranian troops prepare themselves for the coming winter and patrol the roads leading into the mountains from the swamps.  All is quiet.

Nogrania maintained their hold on the Mountains Theatre! They generate +1 point on their Economic Development Track.



Combat in the Badlands

With Nogrania’s Resource Credit and the addition of an extra Oil resource from their E.D.T. last turn, they are able to off-set the missing Oil and Ore resources from the U.N. this turn.  As a result, most of their equipment is back to pre-ban expense levels.  This is good news for the Paradigm, Hippo, and Herald, as well as a few other minor pieces of equipment.  Toskesh has likewise used their Resource Credit this turn, but it only affects their Yāngē-class Citadel Destroyer in the Eastern Seas.

Fall in the Badlands sees the temperature drop from “sweltering” to “ambient”, much to the joy of every soldier stuck out in the shade-less terrain.  Nogrania is operating more or less at full capacity once more now that their soldiers are re-equipped with Rabid’s and supported by Hippo’s and Paradigm’s.  They operate defensively, digging trenches and bunkers into the sun-baked ground and fortifying ridgelines as the Toskesh charge in from the north.  Toskesh, now equipped with their own light armor, now actually stands a chance in their assaults.  Their stolen new Piāoqiè guānsī Hexapod Tank-Walker is a match for the Hippo.  Both armor pieces can easily kill one another, so it often comes down to skill and luck for each tank-walker.  Toskesh has taken to putting troops with "Jin Na" shoulder-mounted rocket launchers and Type-51b Páoxiāo de léi shēng RGL (the 45 mm variant) on the jump-seats, who can quickly hop off and assist in taking down enemy Hippo's when engaged.  The ride is much appreciated by the foot-soldiers, who have grown to hate walking around with the heavy anti-tank equipment. 

Nogrania, on the other hand, doesn't actually have any anti-tank equipment beyond their Hippo and field guns.  It's understandable, since Toskesh has gone almost two years without developing any actual armor, but the sudden shift in battle certainly hurts.  Nogrania's Duke howitzers are certainly more effective than Toskesh's Type-51w 'Huā zi' MRRL, both in terms of accuracy and range, and when they can manage it they rake incoming Piāoqiè guānsī's before they engage.  The Paradigm actually shows its value in this new combat, being merely Expensive compared to the Very Expensive hexapods.  The 4" Duke's mounted on the Paradigm are certainly overkill, but in emergencies they can act as impromptu tank-killers.  Even then it's a bit of a toss-up; the Piāoqiè guānsī is equipped with a 25 mm grenade launcher, which can fire rapidly and easily gut the un-armored Paradigms.  Battle is often decided by who can get the first shot off.  Ultimately tank-on-tank combat leans in Toskesh's favor; they actually have anti-tank equipment they can use to bolster their effectiveness in tank engagements, where most of Nogrania's is their own actual armor and unprotected mobile artillery pieces.

The Rabid being back in the hands of Nogrania's troops certainly helps, but it's matched more-or-less by Toskesh's Xi-52 Dài-I Zha-Buqiang rifles.  The Wictor, despite being inaccurate, is just as well equipped for defending emplacements as Toskesh's Type-51b Páoxiāo RGL's are at digging them out (now that the users have some mobile cover and can get in close).  The Draft struggles to find a good use for itself, managing to drop small quantities of troops behind enemy lines and aimlessly send NMG fire on troops down below in "drive-by" strafing runs.  The Qi-Chu, well-suited for the Type-51w 'Huā zi' MRRL, performs much more effectively at hit-and-run tactics - Nogrania attempts to punish them with Draft counter-attacks, but it's not terribly effective.  Operating the Qi-Chu is dangerous, as crews must get well within enemy artillery range to fire, but their high speed means that they can often get out after firing their rocket barrage.

Corporal Ellis Green wipes away a bead of sweat that trickled down his brow.  His hexapod is actually squatting in a trench, and only the turret is exposed.  This hull-down position is a huge help in Toskesh's most recent assault; a rocket actually left a crater a few meters away, and had they not been held below surface level the delicate limbs would surely have been damaged.  "Twenty degrees right, hexapod at three kilometers," he barked.  Sure enough, a Toskesh tank-walker was moving in through the shimmering haze, instantly distinguishable from a Nogrania Hippo by the handles welded to the hull.  The Hippo boomed as it sent off a 2" shell, and Green watched as the resulting explosion tore apart a few troops who'd hitched a ride on the Piāoqiè.  The enemy tank sagged as a pair of its legs went limp, but the turret slowly rotated to face their position.  Corporal Green watched as the enemy round came sailing in from the distance.  The shell struck through the lightly-armored turret, impacted the ammo supply, and then Ellis Green was no more.

The fighting is close, but ultimately the combat goes in Toskesh's favor.

Toskesh has pushed far enough south to gain a section of the Baddlands!  Corporal Ellis Green has been KIA!




Combat in the Fjords

Nogrania makes a push into the Fjords this year, a task made difficult by the lack of naval support.  Toskesh makes good use of their Dogbite and Yāngē to drop rocket barrages on anything even close to the shoreline, limiting Nogrania to assaults further inland.  As with the Badlands, their Hippo is no longer a unique advantage, and with Toskesh's dedicated anti-tank weaponry mixed in they suffer for it.  Their main advantage is being able to more widely use their longer-range mobile artillery and reinforce positions with copious inaccurate NMG fire, but Toskesh has the area thoroughly locked down.  With naval support ensuring Nogrania can't reinforce shorelines, Toskesh can land small groups of troops behind their lines and disrupt their assaults with impunity.  Surprisingly, the Draft is able to easily harass ships off-shore; Toskesh is lacking any real AA beyond riflemen, but without any real armament all the Draft can do is exhaust its ammo supply and force sailors indoors, perhaps occasionally knocking out a turret or riddling the unarmored conning tower. 

It's not enough, and with the disadvantages stacked against them Nogrania is forced to surrender the assault.

Toskesh has maintained their hold on the Fjords.  They have gained +1 point on their Economic Development Track!




Combat in the Eastern Seas

In the Eastern Seas Nogrania's Herald-class Destroyer is back to being Expensive.  With the upgraded 4" guns, the Heralds can beat down Dogbite Destroyers any day of the week.  The larger and harder-hitting guns are definitely a point in Nogrania's favor, but Toskesh's Yāngē-class "Citadel Destroyer" is a force to be reckoned with.  The Heavy citadel can turn away 2" Ironcaster rounds, and even deflect a Duke when properly angled.  This gives the ship an unprecedented survivability thusfar unseen in Serouda's naval combat.  That's not to say the ship can't be damaged - the bow, stern, and conning towers are virtually unarmored.  Despite the dozen Sunrise cannons scattered around the hull, the Yāngē is subjected to withering artillery fire before even getting in range.  In battles in which the Yāngē survives, the ship is often crippled.  It's not uncommon to find Yāngē-class ships with hasty patches welded all over the ship.  Yāngē captains will often order all bulkheads pre-emptively sealed when expecting combat, giving the ship the surprising ability to live through damage that would send any other ship to the ocean floor.  In one case a dockyard in the Fjords witnessed what seemed to be a floating scrap heap come limping in, little more than a citadel attached to a pair of screws.  But, when the Yāngē can get in range, it's game-over for any ship it turns its guns to. 

Nogrania's Red Herring gains renown for it's high speed and ability to flirt with danger.  The Ironcaster doesn't pack much of a punch, but the Herring can surprisingly hold its own against Dogbite destroyers.  At close range and one-on-one the Herring can sail circles around a Dogbite, raking the ship with merciless NMG and Ironcaster fire until the unfortunate ship takes enough damage and sinks.  The Herring rarely gets to enjoy one-on-one combat, however, so their influence is limited.  They tend to work best close to the shorelines in the Fjords, where they can popout of cover and ambush enemy ships easily.  Often Herring captains are relegated to keeping Dogbite Destroyers busy while the Heralds turn their 4" Duke's on any Yāngē's in the enemy fleet.  The ship has a number of practical draw-backs in combat, however.  Without torpedoes, the little patrol ship struggles to get a "killing blow", and often just cripples enemy ships.  They're the same expense level as Heralds and Dogbites, so they can't out-number and swarm their targets either.  Like the Yāngē, they have a lot of potential they just can't tap into yet.

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Toskesh has pushed the frontline far enough south to take the Eastern Seas!  They will generate +1 point on their Economic Development Track for each turn they continue to hold it.  Nogrania loses their Sea TC while their port is blockaded!!! Ensign Dylan McFinnigan has gone MIA!



Other News:
Poland adopts Communist-imposed Constitution, based on the 1936 Russian Constitution.  The Russian text of the Constitution was reviewed and 'corrected' by Joseph Stalin himself, and later translated into Polish.  The Polish people are thankful to Mighty Stalin for helping them with their Constitution.  Puerto Rico becomes a self-governing commonwealth of the United States.  As a result of the Cairo Fires earlier this year, the Free Officers enact a coup, forcing King Farouk I of Egypt to abdicate his throne.  The Egyptian monarchy is abolished soon after and anti-British hostilities are re-ignited.  West German Chancellor Konrad Adenauer signs a reparation pact for the Jewish people.  Ernest Hemingway publishes "The Old Man & The Sea" and the first KFC opens in Salt Lake City, Utah.



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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 8, Winter 1952
« Reply #298 on: February 18, 2018, 03:55:19 pm »

Xi-52 Xīwàng Xuá-Zhí
Following the ban of fixed wing military aerial platforms, the Tondeshe military has found itself lacking a proper air force. The Xi-52 Xiwang builds itself as a remedy to this, as the nation's first military aerial vehicle in compliance with the Geneva Convention. The vehicle's powerplant is a single XZ01-52Xi turboshaft engine, where work is done to improve it's ability to operate in spite of taking on moisture, the craft is expected to be quite agile given it's low weight and the already proven power of our turboshafts, and in case the engine proves to be underpowered plans for it to carry two are also constructed. The Xiwang carries a nasal Type-51b RGL as well as either two Type-51w Hua-Zi rocket launch pods (3x4 tubes in each) or two additional Type-51b RGLs on each side, in the form of interchangeable subsystems mounted on the sides (literally just two different things you can bolt onto the side, not even necessary if it in any way influences the difficulty, which I don't see how it would). The craft's hull is made a few millimeters thick so as not to be a prime example of a paper plane. It is a manned by a pilot and a copilot.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Toskesh - Turn 8, Winter 1952
« Reply #299 on: February 18, 2018, 04:27:23 pm »

We probably want AA missiles. So long as they don't have aerofoils they ought to be cool with the U.N....
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