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Re: KILL SIX BILLION DEMONS Discussion Thread
« Reply #300 on: March 20, 2018, 08:53:32 pm »

New comic up, no text, just Mottoms giant flying plate fortress (or what have you) plowing right into the vault.

Also, Paradise: Shattered
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« Reply #301 on: March 20, 2018, 09:07:16 pm »

It is impossible to rob Mammon's vault. Hence, the best way to get inside is to try and do something else in there.
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« Reply #302 on: March 20, 2018, 09:14:24 pm »

Most robbers don't have a giant flying plate at their disposal to ram their way into it though.
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« Reply #303 on: March 20, 2018, 09:17:30 pm »

Well not with that attitude.

Also, prepare for Mammon to tragically remember Mottom only from back when they were friends and not everything that's happened since.
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« Reply #304 on: March 20, 2018, 09:25:45 pm »

I give like 50% odds that the shock of a god's temple crashing into his home clears Mammon's mind of doubt and makes him temporarily terrifying.
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« Reply #305 on: March 20, 2018, 09:36:36 pm »

It's also been said somewhere that Mammon is actually the weakest of all of them. How much of that is due to senility and old age, no idea.

All indications of his past are that he had a silver tongue that would have made him a powerful politician in his own right, but that person doesn't seem to be there anymore.

Well not with that attitude.

Also, prepare for Mammon to tragically remember Mottom only from back when they were friends and not everything that's happened since.

Well, friends as in allies, not 'share a beer' friends. I didn't get the indication (whether in comic or looking in the wiki) that any of them ever had friendly relations with each other that went beyond mutual allies of circumstance or neccessity.

edit: Although the dialogue between Mottom and Jagganoth in the concordance of demiurges may indicate a past relationship between those two.
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« Reply #306 on: March 20, 2018, 09:46:44 pm »

It's not really clear what the relationship between the demiurges used to be, only that they worked together enough to conquer the universe in relative stability and used to all meet in person instead of sending emissaries.

However, as the trend to date has been building them up as two-dimensional tyrants and then showing the tragic circumstances behind that appearance, I choose genuine friendship as my prediction for at least some of them by dint of it being the most dramatic possibility. As Mottom put it, "the days are like water"...things could have changed a lot. Their place in the multiverse now is because of their story, whatever it was, having come to an end long ago.

Most of them seem to have had some sort of good idea at an earlier point and then lost the script, with the exception of the information black hole that is Gog-Agog.
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« Reply #307 on: March 20, 2018, 10:32:40 pm »

I am somehow thoroughly unsurprised by this turn of events.

Who would've guessed that crashing a flying city into the vault was the most logical outcome of recent history?
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« Reply #308 on: March 20, 2018, 10:45:49 pm »

It's not really clear what the relationship between the demiurges used to be, only that they worked together enough to conquer the universe in relative stability and used to all meet in person instead of sending emissaries.

However, as the trend to date has been building them up as two-dimensional tyrants and then showing the tragic circumstances behind that appearance, I choose genuine friendship as my prediction for at least some of them by dint of it being the most dramatic possibility. As Mottom put it, "the days are like water"...things could have changed a lot. Their place in the multiverse now is because of their story, whatever it was, having come to an end long ago.

Most of them seem to have had some sort of good idea at an earlier point and then lost the script, with the exception of the information black hole that is Gog-Agog.

I sort of vaguely remember Abaddon saying that Gog-Agog rarely leaves Throne and doesn't really give a fuck what happens to her portion of the universe, and so her worlds are uniformly anarchic toilets. Jagganoth and Solomon both run their kingdoms as autocratic states with the goal of shaping their citizens into their vision of perfection, Jadis' realm is a lot like Mammon's, with Jadis herself basically cut out from the proceedings (though in her case she didn't really have a choice in the matter) and it's run as a theocracy by her interpreters. Incubus is much like Gog-Agog is described above, and of course we've already seen how Mother Om does things.

I can't seem to find where he said any of that though, so who knows?
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« Reply #309 on: March 20, 2018, 11:00:17 pm »

It's not really clear what the relationship between the demiurges used to be, only that they worked together enough to conquer the universe in relative stability and used to all meet in person instead of sending emissaries.

However, as the trend to date has been building them up as two-dimensional tyrants and then showing the tragic circumstances behind that appearance, I choose genuine friendship as my prediction for at least some of them by dint of it being the most dramatic possibility. As Mottom put it, "the days are like water"...things could have changed a lot. Their place in the multiverse now is because of their story, whatever it was, having come to an end long ago.

Most of them seem to have had some sort of good idea at an earlier point and then lost the script, with the exception of the information black hole that is Gog-Agog.

I sort of vaguely remember Abaddon saying that Gog-Agog rarely leaves Throne and doesn't really give a fuck what happens to her portion of the universe, and so her worlds are uniformly anarchic toilets. Jagganoth and Solomon both run their kingdoms as autocratic states with the goal of shaping their citizens into their vision of perfection, Jadis' realm is a lot like Mammon's, with Jadis herself basically cut out from the proceedings (though in her case she didn't really have a choice in the matter) and it's run as a theocracy by her interpreters. Incubus is much like Gog-Agog is described above, and of course we've already seen how Mother Om does things.

I can't seem to find where he said any of that though, so who knows?
Sources?  Let's see what I can rummage up for you...Gog-Agog and Incubus both rule loosely, if at all.  Jagganoth is a tyrant king ruling by fear and brutality, while Solomon rules by fear and even-handed, relentless justice.  There's less on Jadis, but it makes sense; as she is today, she is the second-weakest of the Demiurges (the weakest being Mammon, who we have seen being "interpreted," and what she wants is not to rule or even the fruits of rule, but to die.
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« Reply #310 on: March 20, 2018, 11:11:32 pm »

It's not really clear what the relationship between the demiurges used to be, only that they worked together enough to conquer the universe in relative stability and used to all meet in person instead of sending emissaries.

However, as the trend to date has been building them up as two-dimensional tyrants and then showing the tragic circumstances behind that appearance, I choose genuine friendship as my prediction for at least some of them by dint of it being the most dramatic possibility. As Mottom put it, "the days are like water"...things could have changed a lot. Their place in the multiverse now is because of their story, whatever it was, having come to an end long ago.

Most of them seem to have had some sort of good idea at an earlier point and then lost the script, with the exception of the information black hole that is Gog-Agog.

I sort of vaguely remember Abaddon saying that Gog-Agog rarely leaves Throne and doesn't really give a fuck what happens to her portion of the universe, and so her worlds are uniformly anarchic toilets. Jagganoth and Solomon both run their kingdoms as autocratic states with the goal of shaping their citizens into their vision of perfection, Jadis' realm is a lot like Mammon's, with Jadis herself basically cut out from the proceedings (though in her case she didn't really have a choice in the matter) and it's run as a theocracy by her interpreters. Incubus is much like Gog-Agog is described above, and of course we've already seen how Mother Om does things.

I can't seem to find where he said any of that though, so who knows?

I saw the tumblr post you're talking about. It was linked in the article on Gog-Agog I think. Also, Incubus's worlds are anarchaic because he wants it that way, Gog-Agog's realm is anarchic through sheer neglect.

Maybe some of Gog-Agogs worlds do have governments of varying types, anarchism only lasts so long as there isn't someone able to overpower the others and impose their own rule.

edit: Actually, as Culise linked, Abbadon said that Gog-Agogs worlds are 'a mess'. Not neccesarily anarchic, just what you might expect of a galactic empire who's central government is completely and utterly apathetic about the rest of the worlds.
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« Reply #311 on: March 21, 2018, 12:30:40 am »

Mammon: How strange, I find myself craving koolaid now, ho there visitor, you wouldn't happen to have any for a forgetful old monster, would you?
Mottom: ...you were never a monster to me, my friend.
Mammon: Hmmm, have we met?
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« Reply #312 on: March 23, 2018, 11:30:57 pm »

Mottom's pissed.  Somebody gonna die.

I love how she set her own palace on fire, guess Allison's pep talk set her head straight about the whole "queen and god" thing.
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« Reply #313 on: March 23, 2018, 11:35:37 pm »

Looks like she squeezed out some last drops of immortality.

And again with the red-gleaming key. At this point I'm convinced that it cannot be a coincidence or meaningless artistic choice. Indicates growing enlightenment? Embrace of death? Royalty? Something like that.
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« Reply #314 on: March 23, 2018, 11:41:16 pm »

Hum, usually the concept of immortality-influencing add-ons is, if the source is gone, the person will wither up or otherwise-creatively-die because of 'time catching up to them', as that kind of immortality is just 'life extending' and if it's cut off, you go dead. :-\

I'm unsure if Mottom's city is the one on fire, or that glass-like ceiling was so hard it hit something to cause it to explode on fire. Or somehow there was already a fire on Mottom's city when it flew and crashed into Mammon's.

Mottom's pissed.  Somebody gonna die.

I love how she set her own palace on fire, guess Allison's pep talk set her head straight about the whole "queen and god" thing.
I forgot what page this was on. Anyone care to link? :-X I lack the current resources to get there.

Also just to ask: Mottom knows how to...um, kill by word, right? So she just needs to say stuff and the person she points at explodes. I do hope there's some kind of deific stuff against that when she perhaps does breach Mammon's lands.

Wasn't there something about 'demiurge tresspassing' in other realms that was stated somewhere back too?
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