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[se05239]

Will I be able to experience seasonal change if I turn off temperature?

[CaptainArchmage]

You will experience seasonal changes for the purpose of plants maturing and being able to grow plants, but no seasonal variation in temperature. I believe this means if you save in summer, you may not get snow in winter.

[se05239]

You will experience seasonal changes for the purpose of plants maturing and being able to grow plants, but no seasonal variation in temperature. I believe this means if you save in summer, you may not get snow in winter.

Ah, shame. I was hoping that winter would cause things to freeze and stuff.

[They Got Leader]

"With temperature calculations disabled, effects such as water freezing, melting, or evaporating, or creatures and items taking temperature-related damage will not occur."
From the wiki about temperature. There will be no freezing of water. By this logic, saving in winter will mean you will have year-round ice.

[PatrikLundell]

Given the logic, you would presumably be able to get things to insta-freeze/thaw by briefly enable temperature and then disable it again at suitable times of the year. I have no first hand experience of it, though.

[se05239]

"With temperature calculations disabled, effects such as water freezing, melting, or evaporating, or creatures and items taking temperature-related damage will not occur."
From the wiki about temperature. There will be no freezing of water. By this logic, saving in winter will mean you will have year-round ice.

I was hoping that I could turn off temperature but still experience the seasonal changes. It'd be awesome if water just froze during winter and thawed later, like a state that could be turned on/off and not requiring intense logical calculations that the temperature mechanic do.

[martinuzz]

But that would make it impossible to thaw the river during winter by running magma beneath it.

[Shonai_Dweller]

"With temperature calculations disabled, effects such as water freezing, melting, or evaporating, or creatures and items taking temperature-related damage will not occur."
From the wiki about temperature. There will be no freezing of water. By this logic, saving in winter will mean you will have year-round ice.

I was hoping that I could turn off temperature but still experience the seasonal changes. It'd be awesome if water just froze during winter and thawed later, like a state that could be turned on/off and not requiring intense logical calculations that the temperature mechanic do.

You would need s brand new game for that. DF models temperature and how it effects different parts of the world at different times of year. Turn it off, turn it on, but "option to simulate the world in a completely different way" is a bit much to ask. For the 99% of users who play df as is, it'd just be seen as a waste of Toady's time for no gain at all.

[se05239]

"With temperature calculations disabled, effects such as water freezing, melting, or evaporating, or creatures and items taking temperature-related damage will not occur."
From the wiki about temperature. There will be no freezing of water. By this logic, saving in winter will mean you will have year-round ice.

I was hoping that I could turn off temperature but still experience the seasonal changes. It'd be awesome if water just froze during winter and thawed later, like a state that could be turned on/off and not requiring intense logical calculations that the temperature mechanic do.

You would need s brand new game for that. DF models temperature and how it effects different parts of the world at different times of year. Turn it off, turn it on, but "option to simulate the world in a completely different way" is a bit much to ask. For the 99% of users who play df as is, it'd just be seen as a waste of Toady's time for no gain at all.

Well, I asked.

[King Kitteh]

You would need s brand new game for that. DF models temperature and how it effects different parts of the world at different times of year. Turn it off, turn it on, but "option to simulate the world in a completely different way" is a bit much to ask. For the 99% of users who play df as is, it'd just be seen as a waste of Toady's time for no gain at all.

Would you really? Wouldn't it be possible to have a simple script that plays when winter starts that checks all the water on the surface and converts it to ice. Vice versa for summer. DFhack can probably do it.

[se05239]

You would need s brand new game for that. DF models temperature and how it effects different parts of the world at different times of year. Turn it off, turn it on, but "option to simulate the world in a completely different way" is a bit much to ask. For the 99% of users who play df as is, it'd just be seen as a waste of Toady's time for no gain at all.

Would you really? Wouldn't it be possible to have a simple script that plays when winter starts that checks all the water on the surface and converts it to ice. Vice versa for summer. DFhack can probably do it.

I'd love that to be a thing.