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[Blood_Librarian]

Ripper Combat Crawler Drone
1 Alien Equipment Token

The Ripper is a combat drone, designed to deploy in combat zones, where it would act as both a disposable recon element and as close quarters combatant. Each Ripper is equipped with an elerium Core, a light alloy casing, and muffled foot pads and joints for stealth operations. These Drones would take advantage of the TA System sensors, which would allow both its remote operator and soldiers on the field to view exactly what the machine sees. Minimal problems are expected with using TA sensors due to the lack of ergonomics that has to be considered in addition to the possibility of reinforced sensor bulbs. in addition the lack of a built-in screen simplifies its construction. Its method of locomotion is simple, it has four legs, and its hind legs are equipped with Hydraulic Springs, designed to push the Ripper, and leap forward with explosive power in a manner by which it can quickly close the gap between an enemy combatant and quickly neutralize it after stealthily reaching leap range. This is most similar to a grasshopper, and its role as an ambush predator is exemplified. It is controlled remotely by operators at the base and is augmented by available processing power, particularly in Brazil, to translate human controls into its fast, fluid, and murderous speed. In addition, each drone is equipped with an Adaptive interface, allowing technicians with (potential) assistance from the Brazilian computer system to interface with alien equipment.

There have been discussions on how exactly to arm it, and three proposals have been put forward for our team to consider.

• Variant A is designed with exclusively an Electrical discharge nozzle, referred to as an "Arc Thrower", which will be used to knock combatants unconscious with a burst of electricity from the Elerium Reactor. It would be preferred if this burst could be done with some range, but close or melee contact would be acceptable. Due to the Elerium core of the Drone, it is expected that charge capacity of the Arc Thrower should be a non-issue. Compared to other Variants, A is simpler in its design then variants B and C.
• Variant B is similar to Variant A, but with the addition of two razor-sharp buzz saws, made of an alien alloy that will rapidly spin around when activated. These buzz saws would be designed to mutilate and maim enemy combatants, and the drone would be aimed towards either decapitations or severing of the arm limbs, and the buzz-saws have been placed strategically to commit this action. Medics in the field are given large cauterization devices to quickly cauterize the stumps of downed combatants in case of the buzz saws are deployed in such a manner. Buzz saws would only be used in the event that the combatant is still standing after an electrical discharge event.
• Variant C is also similar to Variant A, but the limbs of Ripper-C is given hooks and barbs, and the intent of the Ripper Drone is to leap onto a combatant and latch on, spearing into the combatant's limbs and immobilize the combatant. When it leaps onto a combatant, the limbs of the machines will attempt to pierce into the combatants arms and legs, and then push its rotors to make the limb impossible to move. Extra joint reinforcement is made to assist with the limb function removal.

Stalker Treaded Drone
1 Alien Equipment Token

The Stalker is a combat drone, designed to deploy in combat zones, where it would act as both a disposable recon element and as a way to take down alien elements non-lethally. Each Ripper is equipped with an elerium Core, a light alloy casing, and a fast but silent tread set. These Drones would take advantage of the TA System sensors, which would allow both its remote operator and soldiers on the field to view exactly what the machine sees. Minimal problems are expected with using TA sensors due to the lack of ergonomics that has to be considered in addition to the possibility of reinforced sensor bulbs in addition to the lack of a built in screen. The Stalker is equipped with an aimable Electrical discharge system colloquially known as an "Arc Thrower" (it is powered by the elerium reactor), the Stalker will be used to ambush enemy combatants and tase them into submission. It is controlled remotely by operators at the base and is augmented by available processing power, particularly in Brazil, to translate human controls into its stealthy and fluid movement. In addition, each drone is equipped with an Adaptive interface, allowing technicians with (potential) assistance from the Brazilian computer system to interface with alien equipment.

Hunter Armor (1): Chiefwaffles
Stalker (0):
Ripper-A (0):
Ripper-B (1): Blood_Librarian
Ripper-C (0):

[Madman198237]

If you made Hunter Armor specifically full-coverage (a la medieval plate) I'd be happy to vote for it. There's no reason not to, as I've explained several times.

[10ebbor10]

EDIT: Ebbor, can we use multiple tokens of the same type in one action? Like 2 Equipment tokens.

Each token ensures a success on a subfeature. Spending 2 tokens is thus pointless. You can assign 2 tokens to 2 different subfeatures though.

[Happerry]

Hunter Armor (2): Chiefwaffles, Happerry
Stalker (0):
Ripper-A (0):
Ripper-B (1): Blood_Librarian
Ripper-C (0):

[Chiefwaffles]

EDIT: Ebbor, can we use multiple tokens of the same type in one action? Like 2 Equipment tokens.

Each token ensures a success on a subfeature. Spending 2 tokens is thus pointless. You can assign 2 tokens to 2 different subfeatures though.

Pretty much what I thought, thanks.

I added another equipment token to the armor to help with TAV integration. Also, Madman, I've specified that it should practically cover the entire body and I removed bits limiting it otherwise.

Hunter Armor (2): Chiefwaffles, Happerry
Stalker (1): Chiefwaffles
Ripper-A (0):
Ripper-B (1): Blood_Librarian
Ripper-C (0):

Also adding a vote (in addition to the one for Hunter Armor) to the Stalker. I probably prefer Hunter Armor a bit more, but I want Stalker to be considered. I'll remove one of my votes if there's a tie.

[Madman198237]

Hunter Armor (3): Chiefwaffles, Happerry, Madman
Stalker (1): Chiefwaffles
Ripper-A (0):
Ripper-B (1): Blood_Librarian
Ripper-C (0):

[TheFantasticMsFox]

Hunter Armor (4): Chiefwaffles, Happerry, Madman, TFF
Stalker (1): Chiefwaffles
Ripper-A (0):
Ripper-B (1): Blood_Librarian
Ripper-C (0):

So I joined this a while ago and promptly got swamped with reality. Hope I can actually contribute this time around.

[tonnot98]

Hunter Armor (5): Chiefwaffles, Happerry, Madman, TFF, tonnot98
Stalker (1): Chiefwaffles
Ripper-A (0):
Ripper-B (1): Blood_Librarian
Ripper-C (0):

I personally don't see much use for a combat drone with a focus on melee capabilities. But using alloys to help with our survivability would certainly be good. Maybe instead of revising missiles, we could use our alloys to revise and improve our gauss guns again? The sectoids still don't have any armor to speak of, but with enough power, our infantry guns could be ripping holes in UFOs.

maybe we should make a giant .98 rifle that fires gyrocs

[Blood_Librarian]

Combat Drones would help us in two significant fashions: It acts as an element they cannot psionically assense, and they can non-lethally take down opponents. That is huge, something we have not capability for until now.

[Rockeater]

Hunter Armor (6): Chiefwaffles, Happerry, Madman, TFF, tonnot98, Rockeater
Stalker (1): Chiefwaffles
Ripper-A (0):
Ripper-B (1): Blood_Librarian
Ripper-C (0):

We will need to defend against their missilles eventually, but this is good for now.

[Emral282]

Hunter Armor (7): Chiefwaffles, Happerry, Madman, TFF, tonnot98, Rockeater, Emral282
Stalker (1): Chiefwaffles
Ripper-A (0):
Ripper-B (1): Blood_Librarian
Ripper-C (0):

Looks good to me

[Madman198237]

A revision for antimissile missiles would probably work. Our missiles aren't the most useful things anymore, after all.

[Happerry]

Combat Drones would help us in two significant fashions: It acts as an element they cannot psionically assense, and they can non-lethally take down opponents. That is huge, something we have not capability for until now.

My issue with your designs is less the 'combat drone' part of melee combat drone, and more the 'melee' part.

[Blood_Librarian]

It is a drone designed to ambush enemy elements and then take them down non-lethally. Yes, it might not be able to shoot at something from far away, but it won't need to if it is fast enough and stealthy enough to not get hit in the first place.

[Madman198237]

No tracked drone is going to be enough of either of those to work, and while a crawler-style drone MIGHT work, it'd probably be a lot harder to make fast enough than, say, just making powered armor, which would work well in a similar role.