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[piratejoe]

This isn't a sci fi game failbird, it could be that shadow has an innate magic that is similar to the energy light has, either way, its not efficient and its more a bit of fluff then anything else.

[Doomblade187]

Failbird, I was overreacting to the strengthen over time aspect. My apologies. I do think that your version works better for general use formations, as I want to us the hulks inside formations instead of as formation breakers.

[darkwarlock3]

there's only nine of us left i think so volley right now has majority followed by hulk unless some people want to vote for other things

[Doomblade187]

there's only nine of us left i think so volley right now has majority followed by hulk unless some people want to vote for other things

I think we're basically discussing our third turn action by this point, yeah.

[darkwarlock3]

i have read some of the arguments and really it comes down to the Robusarbusto and hulk, i'll stick with hulk for now but the Robusarbusto could be something for the next design phase

[RAM]

Yeah, but I am curious what mechanism you want them to grow stronger through. We could also cut that out if you want. 6 foot tall imps are pretty good for a starting force. Also would cost less.

My main concern about the growing stronger bit is that Abe will view it as an enchant that we haven't researched yet, making the design harder.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CharlesAtlasSuperpower?
Maybe mix it up with adrenaline and throw in a dash of "fire= conflict and intensity" to focus the effect on combat. Sort of, "their innate fire energy is ignited by the burning passions of a mortal conflict and drawn into specifuc parts of their body by exertion, where it settles and empowers." so that their physique just keeps getting better at whatever they do in combat...

[piratejoe]

I made a few additions to my own race, might change a few things as its kind of work in progress still but for now I like the fluff I made.

[RAM]

So, like, I pretty much agree that we need a tough unit, but I had this idea for armour and don't want to just sit on it...
Worn Equipment Against being Killed.

This is less a design and more a method, the intention being to create a simple armour concept that can be applied to most body-types. layers of fabric or leather are formed into a crude, limbless torso covering and redundantly sewn together into a somewhat rigid form. Metal plates are roughly beaten into shape and then riveted onto the torso covering. The rivets can wear the fabric and allow the plates to work loose and fall off, depending upon the fabrics used the padding can be flammable(though its density tends to reduce its ignition temperature unless the edges are frayed, which is admittedly likely if the armour isn't maintained), the padding is only marginally flexible and lacks personal tailoring while the plates only approximate the shape of a torso so it can be uncomfortable and slip or shift somewhat, and it leaves the limbs and flexible parts of the torso exposed, so it is not particularly good. For all that though, it can be built from a minimum of expensive resources and labour compared to more competent armours and can put a layer of metal between the enemy and the central-mass of almost anything.

Prices likely to vary based upon recipient...

Someone actually familiar with historical armour construction might know of a cheaper and/or dirtier form of armour, or perhaps we can consider producing master-craftsmen who can mass produce gothic-plate as easily as coins. Or we could consider only investing in expensive armour for expensive units...

[darkwarlock3]

well if we do take over the earth realm we could make dwarves as miners and master craftsmen and we do know that they would be sturdy and very hard to kill. i will make a proper design for this after earth realm is ours.

[RAM]

Would we want any special quirks with our dwarves? Like... We could give them upwards-curving side-facing horns and metallic scalps... And a symbiotic Algae that catches food by growing beneath their mouth, in return, the algae could keep their teeth clean, and filter earth magic out of the air and into the dwarf...

[darkwarlock3]

more like a complete metallic skin for them and have their bones made of something hard like steel or even harder. if you want to suggest idea to add please do

[Doomblade187]

So, some ideas I see in thread/my head:
metal breastplate (as the above design)
Laminar (wide bands of armor riveted together)
Lamellar (small plates of armor riveted together)
leather armor (and variants)
refined shadecrystal breastplate/helmet

[crazyabe]

A new tactic is devised and granted to the tribal chieftains ( 8 ) and from the testing they do it is quite effective, keeping the flames flying for longer, and more accurately than would be normal as well as keeping the troops in order.

Spoiler: Untested (click to show/hide)

Impress (500 UWP)
Too Costly to prototype.

Spoiler: Units (click to show/hide)

Imps, short leathery red skinned creatures with small claws and horns, imps have a minor affinity for fire. (1 UWP)

Spoiler: Structures (click to show/hide)

Dark Foundry (1000 UWP)
>Consumes raw resources at 1 per 2 production, actual Resources can be produced at a cost of 1 power per four raw resources
  >Every Unit of Raw Resources processed counts as a UWP for non magical Equipment, and 1/4th for magical equipment
>Requires 1 unit work = 4 pieces of production
  >Can be ran by upto 500 Units at any one time
>leftover resources carry over to next turn

Spoiler: Equipment (click to show/hide)

Flame casters a form of imp sized stave roughly two feet long, Flame casters shoot small balls of fire roughly several inches across, and require several minutes of time after each shot to recharge. (2 UWP)
Spear caster A Spear, enchanted with fireballs (4 UWP)
>A Rather Sharp and functional Stabbing weapon.
>Require 5 minutes to recharge after each shot
Shadow blades short, vicious daggers formed from a semiclear crystal with a very sharp edge. (2 per UWP)
Shadecrystal Shield A large shield made of the same stuff as shadow daggers. (1 UPW)
>Good Defence VS Piercing and Stabbing, Weak Against Blunt
[spoiler=Enchantments]
Fire balls produces a tiny ball of fire at the tip of the item thus enchanted and shoots it in a straight line. Recharge rate reduces with surface area. (x4 price)

Spoiler: Tactics (click to show/hide)

Volley Formation, [STRICT ORDERED] [+ATTACK RATE] [+VS FLYING] [+VS DISORGANIZED]

Spoiler: Champions (click to show/hide)

The Lich a master of curses and some minor necromancy, the Lich may not be the strongest physically but his mental strength more than makes up for it. (3000 UWP)
>Knows the curses "Slow" "Fear" and "Weaken"
>Knows the Necromantic spell "Raise Dead"

Spoiler: Magic (click to show/hide)

Curse
Slow Halves the speed of creatures within several meters of the target (?)
Fear Inflicts horrific visions on several units at the same time (?)
Weaken Reduces the strength of a single unit by 1/3 (?)
Necromancy
Raise Dead Converts several corpses into mindless undead, is dispelled if the caster dies (?)

Spoiler: Army Stats (click to show/hide)

1 foundry

750 imps W spear casters & Shadecrystal Shields

1 lich

200 imps W Shadow blades

400 unarmed imps

Moral: 5
Loyalty: 5

It is now the Second era, third development phase.
Central thread
Discord

[RAM]

1: Det: Blue Imps
0: : Medium Imps
1: Det: Imp Pits
5: Fai, Doo, Dar, Hel, RAM: Hulk
6: hel, dar, Pir/Kyu, det, Doo, Fai: Design: The Imp-ress
3: Pir/Kyu, ros, RAM: Robusarbusto
6: RAM, Doo, Pir/Kyu, Fai, Dar, Hel: Volley Formation

This is the most recent one I found.

[piratejoe]

Ram, I think it would be best if you voted either for Robusarbusto or the Hulk, seeing how they are main competition to each other at the moment.