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[Clément]

I don't know. Whatever homebrew had at the time (source). You can check the about dialog, it should tell you both build and run time versions for Qt.

Do you know which versions are really useful? I am not sure if three versions are really required. And travis may force me to reduce my macos build machine usage.

[jecowa]

Here's the results from 18 Mac users of a 2020-02 Dwarf Fortress survey (using the latest version for each user when they picked multiple):

• 0.0% - Mac OS 10.5 Leopard (earliest version that Dwarf Fortress runs on)
• 0.0% - Mac OS 10.6 Snow Leopard
• 0.0% - Mac OS 10.7 Lion
• 0.0% - Mac OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
• 0.0% - Mac OS 10.9 Mavericks
• 0.0% - Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite
• 0.0% - Mac OS 10.11 El Capitan
• 5.6% (1) - Mac OS X 10.12 Sierra
• 22% (4) - Mac OS X 10.13 High Sierra
• 17% (3) - Mac OS X 10.14 Mojave
• 39% (7) - Mac OS X 10.15 Catalina
• 17% (3) - Mac OS X ??.?? Unknown Version

And using the earliest version for each user when they picked multiple:

• 0.0% - Mac OS 10.5 Leopard (earliest version that Dwarf Fortress runs on)
• 0.0% - Mac OS 10.6 Snow Leopard
• 0.0% - Mac OS 10.7 Lion
• 0.0% - Mac OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
• 0.0% - Mac OS 10.9 Mavericks
• 0.0% - Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite
• 0.0% - Mac OS 10.11 El Capitan
• 7.7% (1) - Mac OS X 10.12 Sierra
• 33% (6) - Mac OS X 10.13 High Sierra
• 17% (3) - Mac OS X 10.14 Mojave
• 28% (5) - Mac OS X 10.15 Catalina
• 17% (3) - Mac OS X ??.?? Unknown Version

These versions of Dwarf Therapist all run for me in 10.14 Mojave:

• DT41.0.2 w/ what seems to be qt5.5.1 (my old notes say this is the latest version of DT that works with 10.9 Mavericks)
• DT41.1.6 w/ qt5.13.2
• DT41.2.1 w/ qt5.9.9
• DT41.2.1 w/ qt5.12.10
• DTv41.2.1 w/ qt5.15.2

Also 41.1.3 w/ qt5.13.2 worked for me a while back when testing on Sierra.

Just tried DT41.2.1 w/ qt5.9.9 on my old 10.7 Lion laptop. It did not run. It looks like the latest version of Dwarf Therapist that runs on 10.5 Leopard, 10.6 Snow Leopard, and 10.7 Lion is Dwarf Therapist 36.0.0 w/ qt4.8.6.

Just tried running the latest three on an old computer running Mac OS X 10.10 Yosemite:

• Dwarf Therapist v41.2.1 qt5.9.9 - gracefully refuses to attempt to launch. Says it requires Mac OS OX 10.13 or later.
• Dwarf Therapist v41.2.1 qt5.12.10 - silently fails
• Dwarf Therapist v41.2.1 qt5.15.2 - gives an error, "DT cannot be opened because of a problem"

I'm not sure if it's increasing compatibility to build for qt5.9.9 and qt.5.12.10. With the qt5.9.9 build saying it requires Mac OS X 10.13, that's the same that the latest version of Qt also requires. Maybe there's also a minimum OSX version that you can set to make it work on 10.10?

It doesn't seem like older versions of Mac OS X are very popular. It might be kind of nice to have a version that runs on 10.11 El Capitan, since the minimum requirements for running Mac OS X were increased with 10.12 Sierra, but probably not that big of a deal. I don't have a 10.11 El Capitan machine to test on, but it looks like Qt5.9.9 builds should run on both.

If Qt5.9.9 build can be made to work on Mac 10.10-10.12 and with the Qt5.15 build working on Mac 10.13-10.15, then the Qt12 build seems redundant.

[Clément]

Settings for DT 41.2.1: https://github.com/Dwarf-Therapist/Dwarf-Therapist/blob/589da28282636792d96efdf6e5cf29bfcaa2ac1b/.travis.yml#L28-L42

Qt 5.9 was intended for 10.10 (maybe 10.9) compatibility. The CMAKE_OSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET variable must not be working as expected. I should try MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET instead (cmake doc).

[jecowa]

Just found a computer running 10.12 Sierra.

• Qt 5.9.9 build doesn't launch, saying it needs 10.13.
• Qt 5.12.10 build works just fine.
• Qt 5.15.2 build does not work.

[Clément]

While you are in a testing mood, could you check these ones? I'd like for the 5.9 version to work with 10.10-10.12 and the 5.15 with 10.13-10.15 (and hopefully macOS 11 too).

[jecowa]

Thank you!

• macOS 10.10 Yosemite - Qt5.9.9 build works fine. Qt5.15.2 build gracefully refuses to launch saying it requires macOS 10.13.
• macOS 10.12 Sierra - Qt5.9.9 build works fine. Qt5.15.2 build gracefully refuses to launch saying it requires macOS 10.13.
• macOS 10.14 Mojave - both Qt builds work fine.

[jecowa]

I was trying to incorporate beliefs into custom roles. Can I make a roll try to find a dwarf with a negative number on a belief? I think it can only look for positive numbers. I tried setting the weight to a negative number, but I don't think it let me do that.

[Clément]

Use a negative weight for the belief (not for the whole category, but you shouldn't be able to do that any way). Only the absolute value is used for the average computation. The sign is used for flipping the rating inside the 0-1 interval.

[jecowa]

Thank you. It's sorting them by how much they like nature. But using custom roles make Dwarf Fortress freeze up until I exit out of Dwarf Therapist. Also, my changes to roles and my new custom roles don't get saved. Do you know where it tries to save those?

[Clément]

They are saved in the settings file (~/.config/Dwarf Therapist/Dwarf Therapist.ini I think), it may be the old bug where it is owned by root.

I have no idea why custom roles would freeze DF though.

[jecowa]

Dwarf Fortress freezes when Dwarf Therapist opens the "Reading preferences from raws…" dialogue box for making a New Custom Role. Dwarf Therapist continues to work fine and can read and commit, but Dwarf Fortress is frozen until I quit Dwarf Therapist.

[Clément]

If it is the dialog I may have an idea.

[qwip]

Hi, I'm new to DT and trying to work through the examples in the (original!?) manual. Is there an updated manual because I'm stumbling into some script errors. Or is there a thread where all these errors have already been rehashed?  Once I get DT figured out, I'll help update the manual, too.

[Clément]

The manual has not received any important update since it was added to the project (see its history). You can report issues here or on github.

[Evrett33]

I've got a weird issue. I've got the most recent version of the DF Starter and Dwarf Therapist wont start up unless my computer is connected to the internet. The game and DF hack pop up fine but if I try to start up therapist offline nothing happens. No task manager activity or anything..just a 1/4 second thought spin. If I start up therapist while online it pops up fine and continues to work if I immediately disconnect. Is it calling home for updates or something?