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[Logariter]

Can you apply weapon tokens to instruments? also, can you use any skill when a skill token is asked for?

[brolol.404]

Yes,the subtype aka caste was missing.

Beware that if no eligible creatures are around, even civ members that are usually not allowed can be elected to the position. It's perfectly fine with appointed positions, but the last time I had nobles with caste restrictions, the elections allowed anyone.

Turns out fixing the caste didnt fix the problem. I still got a human slave "pet" as nobility

I wonder if giving the site "expedition leader" an appointment by king would fix this issue? but then of course the king might still have it.

EDIT nope that completely broke the position  lol

[Caphoras]

Hello Urists,

I'm trying to create a custom reaction for encrusting weapons with gems. I have found a couple of reddit posts detailing the custom reaction, though I can't seem to get it to work. I've added the following reaction to the reaction_other raw:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[REACTION:ENCRUST_WEAPON]
   [NAME:encrust a weapon with gems]
   [BUILDING:CRAFTSMAN:CUSTOM_SHIFT_C]
   [REAGENT:gem:1:SMALLGEM:NONE:NONE:NONE]
   [REAGENT:weapon:1:WEAPON:NONE:NONE:NONE]
   [PRESERVE_REAGENT]
   [IMPROVEMENT:100:weapon:COVERED:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:gem:NONE]
   [SKILL:ENCRUSTGEM]

and added the [PERMITTED_REACTION:ENCRUST_WEAPON] tag to the entity_default file, under the [ENTITY:MOUNTAIN] section. However, the reaction does not show at a craftsdwarf workshop. After skimming through the wiki and reading the custom Reaction entry, I found that "Most entity changes require a regen, but adding PERMITTED_REACTION tokens for reactions that existed at the time of world generation to the entity file in the save directory do not.".

Is there a way to get around that? I've grown attached to my dorfs and fortress.

Thanks for you help fellow Urists!

[ZM5]

I think with DFhack there's a command that lets you add crafting recipes that your civ normally does not have, that said I dont know if it'd work with a reaction that was added to an active save. Otherwise, no, there aren't really ways to get around things that require a regen.

[TomiTapio]

Can you apply weapon tokens to instruments? also, can you use any skill when a skill token is asked for?

Don't think so. a reaction product, an item, belongs to either WEAPON or INSTRUMENT. Otherwise could have "two-handed sword rock pot flute" that stores food and is a great sword-flute.

You can add a bayonet-stab to crossbows though:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CROSSBOW]
[NAME:crossbow:crossbows]
[SIZE:400]
[SKILL:HAMMER]
[RANGED:CROSSBOW:BOLT]
[SHOOT_FORCE:2400] boosted
[SHOOT_MAXVEL:410] --xx vanilla went 1000->200.   "This is just to make sure a near-weightless object doesn't go faster than the string could possibly go."
[TWO_HANDED:0]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:45000]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]
[ATTACK:EDGE:8:500:bayonet:bayonets:NO_SUB:950] --same as dagger but nerfed a little. Might be too elite for wood and bone crossbows.
   [ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:4]
[ATTACK:EDGE:8:380:stab:stabs:NO_SUB:900]
   [ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:4]
[ATTACK:BLUNT:4000:4000:bash:bashes:NO_SUB:1350]
   [ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:4]
[ATTACK:BLUNT:4000:4000:fumble:fumbles:NO_SUB:250]
   [ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:5:5]

Because the code won't allow carrying a dagger and a crossbow.

[Caphoras]

I think with DFhack there's a command that lets you add crafting recipes that your civ normally does not have, that said I dont know if it'd work with a reaction that was added to an active save. Otherwise, no, there aren't really ways to get around things that require a regen.

Thank you for your help!

I got it to work by editing the recipe for creating clay statues.
I cannot produce any clay statues now, but my dorfs can encrust weapons now.

Another question:
Is there a way to edit recipes like "Make bone greaves, Make bone helm, Make bone Amulet"?
I can't seem to find them in the raws. Are those hard-coded?

[brolol.404]

I added a creature class, but still no luck with it. The human slaves are still getting the "expedition leader" position. I am not sure why [ALLOWED_CREATURE] AND [ALLOWED_CLASS] aren't doing anything.

Spoiler: goblin creature (click to show/hide)

[CREATURE:hordes_GOBLIN]
   [DESCRIPTION:A medium-sized humanoid driven to cruelty by its evil nature.]
   [NAME:goblin:goblins:goblin]
   [CREATURE_CLASS:hordes_GOBLIN_NOBILITY]

Spoiler: human slave creature (click to show/hide)

[CREATURE:hordes_HUMAN_SLAVE]
   [DESCRIPTION:A medium-sized creature prone to great ambition.]
   [NAME:human slave:human slaves:human slave]
   [PET][PETVALUE:30]
   [EVIL]
   [CAN_LEARN][SLOW_LEARNER]
   [CREATURE_CLASS:hordes_GOBLIN]

Spoiler: position (click to show/hide)

[ENTITY:hordes_GOBLIN]
   [SITE_CONTROLLABLE]
   [ALL_MAIN_POPS_CONTROLLABLE]
   [CREATURE:hordes_GOBLIN]
   [ANIMAL]
   [ANIMAL_CLASS:hordes_GOBLIN]
   [ANIMAL_ALWAYS_PRESENT]

   [POSITION:hordes_TRIBAL_CHIEFTAIN_GOBLIN]
      [NAME:tribal chieftain:tribal chieftains]
      [SITE]
      [NUMBER:1]
      [ALLOWED_CREATURE:hordes_GOBLIN:ALL]
      [ALLOWED_CLASS:hordes_GOBLIN_NOBILITY]

Is [CAN_LEARN] what allows a creature to hold a position? Why do trolls not hold positions in vanilla DF? Could it be the [PET] tag I added to human slaves? I didn't give the goblin entity the normal [USE_EVIL_ANIMALS] because I would have to edit the vanilla creature file to give trolls a [PET_VALUE] (so they don't cost 1 embark point).

[Logariter]

TomiTapio, thanks.
Also, I have  two more questions:
Can you give multiple  tool use tokens to a tool?
How can you make a weapon that requires a certain material to be made?

[Eric Blank]

Problems

Try removing can_learn. Slow_learner should work on it's own without that.
It may be that allowed_creature/class was never meant to work for positions that are auto-filled. I know for a fact it will work for positions that are appointed by another position, I've used it thusly, but I the auto-filled "expedition leader" type position I never tried to make caste specific, just generic enough and with no other authority besides in occupying that bottom-wrung spot and appointing a real, important noble position.

Elected positions also don't respect caste requirements it seems. My dwarves will elect one of my intelligent livestock critters too despite the mayor position being dwarf-only.

@logariter
1) I bet it will default to only one of the use tokens, whether first or last I have no idea,what but you can probably try without crashing the game or anything.
2) I don't believe there's any way to do that besides never putting the weapon in the usual weapons tokens of entities, and instead only being able to make it through a reaction. It would count as a foreign weapon in the military equipment screen but you should be able to either directly assign it or dwarves should individually select it.

[brolol.404]

Problems

Try removing can_learn. Slow_learner should work on it's own without that.
It may be that allowed_creature/class was never meant to work for positions that are auto-filled. I know for a fact it will work for positions that are appointed by another position, I've used it thusly, but I the auto-filled "expedition leader" type position I never tried to make caste specific, just generic enough and with no other authority besides in occupying that bottom-wrung spot and appointing a real, important noble position.

Elected positions also don't respect caste requirements it seems. My dwarves will elect one of my intelligent livestock critters too despite the mayor position being dwarf-only.

Thanks. That's a good idea. I'll try to remove [CAN_LEARN] but if that doesn't work  do you have any ideas for a generic position name that could be held by a goblin or human slave?

EDIT

Awesome. This worked. I just need to come up with a generic name for it now.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

   [POSITION:hordes_START_POSITION]
      [NAME:laborer:laborers]
      [SITE]
      [NUMBER:1]
      [PRECEDENCE:30000]

   [POSITION:hordes_TRIBAL_CHIEFTAIN_GOBLIN]
      [NAME:tribal chieftain:tribal chieftains]
      [SITE]
      [NUMBER:1]
      [ALLOWED_CREATURE:hordes_GOBLIN:ALL]
      [APPOINTED_BY:hordes_START_POSITION]

[Logariter]

Thanks Eric Blank

[Eric Blank]

Maybe call it "Slave Manager" or something? So not a position of authority itself beyond keeping the slaves in line. Certifiably goblin and generic both.

Amusingly vanilla goblins don't have slaves in that sense. I guess everybody is equally a slave under the demon master's rule?

[brolol.404]

Maybe call it "Slave Manager" or something? So not a position of authority itself beyond keeping the slaves in line. Certifiably goblin and generic both.

Amusingly vanilla goblins don't have slaves in that sense. I guess everybody is equally a slave under the demon master's rule?

Thanks. I was thinking similiar. I may go with "Slave Handler"

In my mod there are Troll, Ogre, Dwarf, Human, Elf and even Goblin slaves lol

[brolol.404]

Can you add a start time to the following syndrome tags:

CE_FEEL_EMOTION
CE_ADD_TAG
CE_REMOVE_TAG
CE_MENT_ATT_CHANGE
CE_PHYS_ATT_CHANGE
CE_SPEED_CHANGE

I was thinking of adding some "drugs" to my mod that do things like:

Initial exhilaration and euphoria removing the need to eat or sleep. Then boosted physical stats and speed. Eventually causing fear emotion, reduced speed and physical stats and adding the sleep and eat tags back on.

[Eric Blank]

All those should accept start and end times. Peak times would be irrelevant though.