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[Eктωρ]

Can I use a syndrome to add immunity to heat to a creature?

Magma Crabs have:

   [SELECT_MATERIAL:ALL]
      [MULTIPLY_VALUE:2]
      [IF_EXISTS_SET_HEATDAM_POINT:13000]
      [IF_EXISTS_SET_IGNITE_POINT:13000]
      [IF_EXISTS_SET_MELTING_POINT:13000]
      [IF_EXISTS_SET_BOILING_POINT:15000]

To make sure they don't melt in magma. Can I add this through syndrome? I'm trying to get mages that cast jets of magma, but they always melt when they use it. I could change it to dragonfire and make them super fire immune, but I really wanted the magma.

edit: making them fire immune through CE_ADD_TAG doesn't work either, huh.

[ZM5]

Nope, fire immunity so far cannot be added through syndromes. The fireimmune tokens themselves doesn't actually grant it either, its just an AI switch so the creature knows it can path through heated areas (name's a holdover from much older versions, before creature materials were really a thing).

[Fleeting Frames]

@Different child/adult stage: Is this also why all werebeast syndromes are humanoid? Though I recall ettins can be inflicted with weresyndromes, so there's that.

I was pondering of possibility of COUNTER_TRIGGER on a wild cat→cat demon (close enough to age if the cat is short-lived), but shame if that's not workable.

[ZM5]

Anything that has CAN_LEARN and doesn't have NOT_LIVING can be inflicted with werebeast syndromes - so the semimegas, alongside trolls and ogres, can all actually be infected by werebeasts.
I don't really think its workable with animals since they don't get cursed in worldgen - though, they could still be infected by another creature in actual gameplay.

[Seriyu]

How do trade goods work? Is it as simple as "if the civ has access to it through permitted reactions/settled location" they'll bring it, or is there some jerry rigging going on behind the scenes? I know they won't bring DEEP_SPECIAL stuff.

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

technically it's the [SPECIAL] tag but both [DEEP_SPECIAL] + [DEEP_SURFACE] both imply [SPECIAL] (much like INTELLIGENT is CAN_LEARN + CAN_SPEAK)

But yes generally if a civ owns land that encompasses a material (ore, creature, wood, etc) they will have access to it and thus be able to trade it. PERMITTED_REACTIONs normally allow free access to BARs thus why if a dwarven civ can't trade IRON aka don't have IRON in their settled and owned lands they still have STEEL because of the reactions that produce BARs of STEEL.

but you can have materials not be tradable AND not be used by RNG if you tack on [SPECIAL]

[Kat]

I am thinking about a modded plant, that could provide milk, if parts of it are mashed into a paste, then squeezed.

Now, I am looking at the "PRESS_OIL" reaction, and am thinking that I could define the materials in such a way as to use that - which would result in jugs of this hypothetical plant milk.

But, I am wondering what happens then - can the "make cheese" reaction use jugs of milk, or does it require barrels ? would citizens automatically pour jugs of plant milk into barrels ?




my thinking about the material would be that the plant product, would have the "material_reaction_product:press_liquid_mat:local_plant_mat:milk", which would use the milk template (though iirc, only creature milk is defined, so it would need a plant milk template)


also, could this be done with animal products - say you wanted an animal to have some organ that would produce some liquid when squeezed, can that be done ?



after some testing... it's perfectly possible. Citizens will use jugs of milk to turn it into cheese. So that's OK.

and animals with a tissue type that is a glob, that produces a liquid when pressed, that works too, and can use the "press liquid from paste" reaction just fine as well.

So, that was easy enough. woo!

[Seriyu]

technically it's the [SPECIAL] tag but both [DEEP_SPECIAL] + [DEEP_SURFACE] both imply [SPECIAL] (much like INTELLIGENT is CAN_LEARN + CAN_SPEAK)

But yes generally if a civ owns land that encompasses a material (ore, creature, wood, etc) they will have access to it and thus be able to trade it. PERMITTED_REACTIONs normally allow free access to BARs thus why if a dwarven civ can't trade IRON aka don't have IRON in their settled and owned lands they still have STEEL because of the reactions that produce BARs of STEEL.

but you can have materials not be tradable AND not be used by RNG if you tack on [SPECIAL]

Very helpful, thank ya!

[Porjate]

Is it possible to have an armour piece that only covers either the lower or upper section of the torso? For example, the Warhammer Ogres have a gut plate that only covers their gut, leaving both their upper torso and legs exposed. From my fairly limited knowledge of how armour works, it seems both parts of the torso are always covered by default, and the only other option would be to have leg armour with an UBSTEP of 1, which still covers the upper legs. Is there a possible work-around for this?

[scamtank]

Lower body-only armor exists already, but I don't think there's any way to make upper body-exclusive armor.

[Sver]

Pants (including the metal ones) can be made to cover only the lower body, if you set the [LBSTEP:number] to 0.
The body armor, however, will always cover the entire torso. The only thing you can change here is to lover the [COVERAGE:percentage] value, but that will affect the overall blockchance for this armor piece.

[Seriyu]

Is there an easier way to test workshops/custom reactions then making a world, embarking, and manually testing everything? Failing that, is there a comprehensive list of stuff that'll make a workshop not show up for construction? I recently did some tests (not for a workshop specifically, but it was on the list) and found the workshop not showing up, despite everything, as far as I'm aware, being fine. It was sharing a hotkey with another workshop which might've been doing it, but I'm unsure, and I'd just like to streamline this in the future if I can!

Spoiler: Here's the workshop, just for completeness sake, as far as I know it's working, but I haven't checked it yet (click to show/hide)

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[BUILDING_WORKSHOP:ARTISAN_WORKSHOP]
[NAME:Artisan Workshop]
[NAME_COLOR:7:0:1]
[WORK_LOCATION:2:2]
[BUILD_LABOR:MASON]
[BUILD_KEY:CUSTOM_SHIFT_A]
[DIM:3:3]
[BLOCK:1:1:0:1]
[BLOCK:2:1:0:0]
[BLOCK:3:1:0:0]
[TILE:0:1:92:32:176]
[TILE:0:2:92:7:0]
[TILE:0:3:32:7:32]
[COLOR:0:1:6:0:0:0:0:0:7:0:0]
[COLOR:0:2:6:0:0:7:0:0:7:0:0]
[COLOR:0:3:0:0:0:7:0:0:0:0:0]
[TILE:1:1:176:7:177]
[TILE:1:2:176:7:0]
[TILE:1:3:32:32:32]
[COLOR:1:1:6:0:0:7:0:0:7:0:0]
[COLOR:1:2:6:0:0:7:0:0:7:0:0]
[COLOR:1:3:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
[TILE:2:1:177:209:177]
[TILE:2:2:177:7:0]
[TILE:2:3:32:32:32]
[COLOR:2:1:6:0:0:7:0:0:7:0:0]
[COLOR:2:2:6:0:0:7:0:0:7:0:0]
[COLOR:2:3:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
[TILE:3:1:10:209:10]
[TILE:3:2:178:210:0]
[TILE:3:3:178:0:7]
[COLOR:3:1:7:2:0:7:0:0:7:2:0]
[COLOR:3:2:6:0:0:7:0:0:7:0:0]
[COLOR:3:3:6:0:0:7:0:0:7:0:0]
[BUILD_ITEM:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][BUILDMAT][WORTHLESS_STONE_ONLY][CAN_USE_ARTIFACT]

[Galap]

How do I make creatures made of steam? I see that some creatures like forgotten beasts and angels can be made of steam,  but I'm not finding steam or water in any of the material raws.

[TomiTapio]

How do I make creatures made of steam? I see that some creatures like forgotten beasts and angels can be made of steam,  but I'm not finding steam or water in any of the material raws.

Hardcoded materials are in the executable, not in the raws.
Here's them extracted, water (steam), mud, filth, grime, salt etc...
coal, ash, amber, glass, lye, vomit
http://www.dfwk.ru/Hardcoded_materials.txt

use WATER material and set a 110 C body temperature, I guess.

[Eктωρ]

Nope, fire immunity so far cannot be added through syndromes. The fireimmune tokens themselves doesn't actually grant it either, its just an AI switch so the creature knows it can path through heated areas (name's a holdover from much older versions, before creature materials were really a thing).

Alright, so I need to go about this in another way.

Can I use body morphing syndromes to alter the character's tissue?

I'm thinking of creating separate body material templates that are fire-resistant and using a syndrome to change their tissues into it. Can this be done?