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[FantasticDorf]

Salt is not a realised material_template thing, its a hardcoded material. You'll have to put in your own.

[Roses]

That material token confuses me 'CREATURE:CREATURE_MAT:FEMALE:EGG'. I normally see creature material tokens in the form CREATURE_MAT:CREATURE_ID:MATERIAL. How does the reaction know which creature to accept eggs from? Are you sure there isn't any error log associated with that reaction? Seems like it wouldn't be understanding what material you want, so it just accepts any eggs?

It accepts the egg with no error log, i logic i went down was that it looked for a particular material from a caste because it has a problem realising genderless creatures (summoning one in with DFhack incurs a crash) and i put in no field of creature to pursue so it accepted all eggs unless your explanation is closer to the truth.

[REAGENT:A:5:EGG:NO_SUBTYPE:CREATURE:CREATURE_MAT:FEMALE:EGG]

Egg item, no subtype, creature (obj creature), creature_mat, female(caste),template, though i've been told the ordering doesn't matter.

I did attempt to reverse engineer it with Kazoo's silk egg mod, which i did put a little bit of self promotion regarding this reaction there, [REACTION_CLASS:SILK_EGG] irregardless would call the eggs in im very certain (yet to try, its tricky to pin them down) because im being careful to not associate it to any kind of specific creature since that seems to be broken.

I tried this as of a 44.12 version by the way

Interesting, do you have a creature called CREATURE, or are you just using that to specify any creature? I'm thinking that you would get the same result from

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[REAGENT:A:5:EGG:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]Although this would accept things like golden eggs if you had those in your mod. The wiki seems to state that the material for an egg is CREATURE_ID:CASTE, although this is kind of odd since materials are stored on a creature basis not a caste basis.

[FantasticDorf]

Interesting, do you have a creature called CREATURE, or are you just using that to specify any creature? I'm thinking that you would get the same result from

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[REAGENT:A:5:EGG:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]Although this would accept things like golden eggs if you had those in your mod. The wiki seems to state that the material for an egg is CREATURE_ID:CASTE, although this is kind of odd since materials are stored on a creature basis not a caste basis.

Not true in the case of vermin which accept a male and female arguement. I think the explanation for why CREATURE is accepted, may possibly be something Toady has to look at if it only reads [CREATURE:TOAD] on the creature.txt files without inferring the sub-arguement of the indentifying creature type.

• But that's a armchair theory.

[RAT:CREATURE] wouldn't be applicable to my knowledge, and if only [OBJ_CREATURE:example] was so convenient. (testing confirms neither of these are appropriate)

[Roses]

Interesting, do you have a creature called CREATURE, or are you just using that to specify any creature? I'm thinking that you would get the same result from

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[REAGENT:A:5:EGG:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]Although this would accept things like golden eggs if you had those in your mod. The wiki seems to state that the material for an egg is CREATURE_ID:CASTE, although this is kind of odd since materials are stored on a creature basis not a caste basis.

Not true in the case of vermin which accept a male and female arguement. I think the explanation for why CREATURE is accepted, may possibly be something Toady has to look at if it only reads [CREATURE:TOAD] on the creature.txt files without inferring the sub-arguement of the indentifying creature type.

• But that's a armchair theory.

[RAT:CREATURE] wouldn't be applicable to my knowledge, and if only [OBJ_CREATURE:example] was so convenient.

So I was curious what was actually going on when the game read that reagent. Turns out it completely ignores any material definition when using an EGG:NO_SUBTYPE item token. As an example all of the below reagents behave exactly the same.

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[REAGENT:A:5:EGG:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]
[REAGENT:A:5:EGG:NO_SUBTYPE:CREATURE:CREATURE_MAT:FEMALE:EGG]
[REAGENT:A:5:EGG:NO_SUBTYPE:CREATURE_MAT:CHICKEN:EGG]
[REAGENT:A:5:EGG:NO_SUBTYPE:CHICKEN:FEMALE:EGG]
[REAGENT:A:5:EGG:NO_SUBTYPE:THIS:IS:A:TEST:REACTION]Looking at the reagent information as stored in df.global.world.raws.reactions.reactions each one of them sets an item_type = 87 and mat_type = mat_index = -1, meaning any material.

[brolol.404]

Salt is not a realised material_template thing, its a hardcoded material. You'll have to put in your own.

Are there any weak materials available that I can use so that I don't have to create one? (glass, coal, sand, dirt, etc)?

[FantasticDorf]

Little bit deflating, but im glad to have a final answer to what is going on there.

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[REAGENT:A:5:EGG:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]
Atleast its easier to type.  , time to make some egg yolk dividing reactions for cooking.

Salt is not a realised material_template thing, its a hardcoded material. You'll have to put in your own.

Are there any weak materials available that I can use so that I don't have to create one? (glass, coal, sand, dirt, etc)?

You could try wax.

[TomiTapio]

Salt is not a realised material_template thing, its a hardcoded material. You'll have to put in your own.

Are there any weak materials available that I can use so that I don't have to create one? (glass, coal, sand, dirt, etc)?

Try a hardcoded SALT, CORAL, ASH, MUD or GRIME material?
http://www.dfwk.ru/Hardcoded_materials.txt

[Roses]

Salt is not a realised material_template thing, its a hardcoded material. You'll have to put in your own.

Are there any weak materials available that I can use so that I don't have to create one? (glass, coal, sand, dirt, etc)?

Can you not just change INORGANIC:SALT to SALT:NONE?

[brolol.404]

Salt is not a realised material_template thing, its a hardcoded material. You'll have to put in your own.

Are there any weak materials available that I can use so that I don't have to create one? (glass, coal, sand, dirt, etc)?

Can you not just change INORGANIC:SALT to SALT:NONE?

Sweet. this worked thanks

[Enemy post]

Is there a DFhack command to summon items in fort mode?

[DerMeister]

Why goblins cannot embark with alcohol? I add them kumis from milk and bugbeer from remains.

[Atkana]

Is there a DFhack command to summon items in fort mode?

For use via command line or in scripts, there's modtools/create-item (which has a more limited GUI version in gui/create-item). There's also the ruby script create-items and a plugin called createitem - I've no idea what one is supposed to be the main intended method, it's all a bit of a mess (I use the first 2)

Why goblins cannot embark with alcohol? I add them kumis from milk and bugbeer from remains.

Just as a random guess, have you made edits to their creature raws so that they require drink (by default they're [NO_DRINK])? It might be that the civ doesn't bother producing drinks because they don't need it. Though I must emphasise this is entirely a guess rather than founded on any experience :b

[Eric Blank]

Probably because it's creature alcohol not plant alcohol? Dwarves can make mead too but never seem to actually have it available even though honey bees are everywhere

[Enemy post]

Thanks Atkana.

[DerMeister]

Probably because it's creature alcohol not plant alcohol? Dwarves can make mead too but never seem to actually have it available even though honey bees are everywhere

But even if I add them reaction of alcohol making, will them have it without farming?

Is there a DFhack command to summon items in fort mode?

For use via command line or in scripts, there's modtools/create-item (which has a more limited GUI version in gui/create-item). There's also the ruby script create-items and a plugin called createitem - I've no idea what one is supposed to be the main intended method, it's all a bit of a mess (I use the first 2)

Why goblins cannot embark with alcohol? I add them kumis from milk and bugbeer from remains.

Just as a random guess, have you made edits to their creature raws so that they require drink (by default they're [NO_DRINK])? It might be that the civ doesn't bother producing drinks because they don't need it. Though I must emphasise this is entirely a guess rather than founded on any experience :b

Goblins not need eat, but embark with meat.