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[10ebbor10]

The lower you make the temperature difference, the less efficient your cooling loop will be, the heavier and faster it needs to recirculate coolant.

But that's going to far into engineering.

Fundamentally, the difference is whether we add more weight and more resources to patch over a flaw in ICE, or solve the flaw entirely.

[Madman198237]

Improved ICE Precooler: (2) The Just Writer, Andrea
STABIL-ICE: (3) NUKE9.13, 10ebbor10, Madman

[10ebbor10]

Oh, another thing.

We get to import a design this turn.

[NUKE9.13]

We do indeed.
...
Only, I don't think we have any idea what to choose.
Edit: How about this?

-AS-MAT26-50 [L]: A light tracked platform for the 50mm DT25 gun originally designed for the AS-T25 tank. Moves on a simply 8-cylinder motor and treads. It has thin RHA armor in the front only, with the rest open to the air. The DT-25 gun has an extended barrel with a muzzle brake, and is mounted on a front-facing armature with good side-to-side and vertical angling, for direct fire. It includes an M3 Sorraia for good measure against aircraft. Costs 4 ore, 2 oil.

[10ebbor10]

That thing is terribly dated though.

[andrea]

sadly, all the non dated things we can import are generally too expensive or already imported.

any idea ebbor?

I guess we could also import a machinegun (which bear soldiers can use as an assault rifle), an actual assault rifle, or some extremely dated artillery piece

[NUKE9.13]

That thing is terribly dated though.

Yeah, so is everything else that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

I suppose we could import a machine gun.

-M3 Sorraia GPMG: [L] A 7.62mm machine gun fed from a belt. 50-round belts can be strung together for extended fire or stored in a belt box attached to the Sorraia, which for practical purposes is similar to a magazine. It uses a recoil action, and is configured to fire around 800 rounds per minute, achieved with the help of a muzzle booster (which looks like a flared end on the barrel). Weighs 22 pounds. Comes with a bipod, or tripod for emplacements. It uses copper heat sinks, which are now shrouded. It has a changeable barrel, which is necessary for emplacement use. It is effective to about 800 yards when mounted. Costs 2 ore.

[andrea]

By the way, to update everyone on the current topic of discord discussion:

We were thinking about a borehole design. We have excavator tech, we have ICE cooling. A dedicated civilian design should be able to reach much greater depths, and we can easily justify more ore due to it, and even more oil, by way of providing geothermal energy and therefore diminishing the civilian use of oil leaving more to military.

Also, a revision to the earth ear could be done to discover oil deposits more easily.

[10ebbor10]

Not really. We got the weaker party in the Canalla vs Forenia thing (primarily by Canalla's perpetual naval boost, where they get better designs on 1's than we got on 6's), and as you said, we already got the best stuff.

Anyway going over the designs.

-Incinerator Flamethrower: [L] A heavy weapon, consists of two tanks on a soldier's back (one of harmless nitrogen as a propellant, and one of flamethrower fuel) and a nozzle with a pilot light. Shoots a jet of burning liquid about 25 feet. Includes an emergency cutoff valve. Costs 2 ore, 2 oil

Could be usefull, but kind of rendered pointless by our ICE Thrower.

-AS-M17A: [L] A motorcycle which seats one passenger, and a second in a sidecar. The petrol motor is Arstotzka's first, with three in-line cylinders. On its own, the bike is capable of more than 80 kilometers per hour, cross country, and 110 on a road. The sidecar is available with a machine gun, sometimes on a pintle mount to aim at aircraft. 2 Ore, 1 Oil.

Ensures that all our troops are suddenly very fast.

UFS-BL-38-A 'Firecracker': This bunch of letters followed by a word denotes a 2.5kg finned bomblet, with a either a HEAT+Fragment warhead, or an incendiary warhead. These come in pods of 100 which fit on standard bomb mounts, and release their bomblets at an experimentally-determined altitude which causes them to cover a 50 meter square with roughly one bomb every 5 meters- enough to hit a group of armor, or more forgiving of error than a single 250kg bomb when trying to hit a single target.

Should deal with all their tanks.

General Tereshkova: The Forenian army is led by General Tereshkov, an expert pilot. With experience spanning back to the days of the terrifying AS-19 aircraft which pilots believed to be haunting, he trains Forenian pilots to quick witted and always on guard, and out-fly their enemies

Hey, it's in the equipment list.

[andrea]

The problem with the tanks isn't lack of suitable bombs, but lack of planes to carry them. Sadly, anything with wings that is not a triplane sits firmly at VE.

The motorcycle is one of the most dated things we could import... but it has always been ahead of times. (and fairly mad to drive that fast cross country with a sidecar).
If we go for a light mobile army, it could work. I wonder if we can fit the vehicle version of ICE thrower on it.

edit: oh, and importing tereshkova as a military consultant/trainer would be amusing

[10ebbor10]

Our X-Wing can carry 1 ton of bombs, so that should be fine.

[andrea]

Of course it can bring bombs. The problem is that we can't field them in sufficient number, and no fancy payload will change that.

[Maximum Spin]

I will vote for importing the General.

[10ebbor10]

Of course it can bring bombs. The problem is that we can't field them in sufficient number, and no fancy payload will change that.

The enemy tank is VE too.

[andrea]

we may want to start a votebox.

edit: waffles predictably forbids us to import Tereshkova